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[KingZayd]

I agree. It's simply disrespectful to throw the game.

[Taboo]

Garrus is the ultimate space bro. My Shepard misses because he wants to.

He can tell Garrus later to troll him.

[vonfantasy]

Simple... If Garrus isn't a better sniper than my Shepard he shouldn't be in my squad...

[CHARK19]

I had a shot and took it.
That's one less bottle to worry about!

[Phoenix_Fyre]

I did both actually lol.... I felt bad when I won, but Garrus's citadel comment makes my day

Cannot wait to test the outcome when I do my first LI Infiltrator run

[Sanunes]

Bleachrude wrote...

TheGreatDayne wrote...

Because, my Shepard is a terrible sniper! Winning against someone trained to use a sniper feels... weird...

THIS

Sure, we gotten used to Shepard being able to do well, everything but it does feel weird to have my vangaurd shotgun CGC specialist Shepard being able to beat a sniper...a turian sniper.....a turian sniper that has killed two men with one bullet.

Nope.

Even though Garrus doesn't count the third I do, for after all the third guy died from the heart attack because his two friends were shot with the same bullet.

[Auld Wulf]

@OP

My Shepard is a vanguard. She throws herself around like a human bullet, but her aim with a sniper rifle is nowhere near as good as Garrus'. Essentially, if there was going to be a shooting contest, then Garrus would win every time. Thus, I wouldn't have been able to win that competition anyway.

Probably a lot of players felt the same way.

Edit: In Fallout: New Vegas (I love that game as much as ME3, but for different reasons) there would have been a skill check in order to see if I could actually do it, and I would have failed either way. Since there are no skill checks like that in ME3's dialogue, I just pretend that it is a skill check, and 'throwing the game' (so to speak) is failing to pass the skill check.

Modifié par Auld Wulf, 24 mars 2013 - 03:44 .

[AcidwireX]

Because my Vanguard shotgun expert shouldn't have been able to make that shot in a million years.

[PrinceLionheart]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I think Garrus knows in the long run that you let him win.

Garrus knows my Shepard would not have missed. Period. He never misses.

But he knows what Shepard was trying to do and is grateful for it.

And this is why I want a PC who isn't a total mary sue.

[LtBashkar]

My Soldier and Infiltrator beat him.

All my others missed, at least to me.

[Knight of Dane]

I role play that Shepard doesn't "choose" to win/loose.

All Soldiers and Infiltrators win.
All Engineer, Sentinel, Vanguard and Adept Sheps loose, cuz they no use Sniper in ME1/2

[Omega Torsk]

My Shepard is an Infiltrator AND Garrus's bro.

There is NO WAY that he would ever patronize his skills!

[PsiMatrix]

KingZayd wrote...

I agree. It's simply disrespectful to throw the game.

Unless it's rigged. Garrus can't win no matter what and Shepard can't lose unless you make them.

[Shad Croly]

Bill Casey wrote...

My Shepard isn't a sniper, so I really dislike the idea that he's as good with a sniper rifle as Garrus...
So my Shepard didn't let him win, he just plain missed...

This. And on top of that, I just plain suck using Sniper Rifles. Garrus is a much better shot than I am.

[andy6915]

So an adept can't be good with sniper rifles? Funny, the Asari have sniping teams, and all Asari are biotics. For that matter, you can select sniper rifles to be usable in every single game regardless of class. Every biotic Shepard I've ever made has been able to fire assault rifles quite proficiently from day 1. My last engineer took sniper rifles in ME1 on and was pretty much an infiltrator who focused more on techs then shooting, but still handled a rifle well.

Don't bring gameplay into this, because the same thing can be used to argue non-infiltrator and non-soldier Shepard's making the shot. Now if you didn't select sniper rifles in a past game... Then yeah, missing makes sense. And even if your Shepard does know how, it could be that you want your Shepard to not be quite Garrus' actual level level with it. But don't say an adept or something can't possibly use a sniper rifle or couldn't potentially make the shot even if they've been made to be a good sniper before that point.

[Ryzaki]

My infiltrator - makes the shot. He's a giant troll and he is very smug in his sniping.

My adept - depends if it's my main adept who does use sniper rifles he shouldn't miss...but he does because Garrus could use the moral boost. But if it's a side adept they'll miss because they simply can't make the shot.

[Astartes Marine]

Because in the final fight I want Garrus at his peak fighting ability, and if me throwing him a win helps his pride and focus, then so be it.

His dialogue is better when he wins too.

[Epsilon330]

One of the major points about Garrus' story throughout the series is that he feels inferior compared to Shepard, especially in ME1 and 2. In fact, it's strongly suggested that Shepard's influence is holding him back (he builds a successful team after Shep's death in ME2, and becomes a general of some sort during Shepard's incarceration).
Giving him something that tells him "yes, you ARE better than Shepard at some things!" would be a good morale boost. Morale is important in war.

[ChrisDV]

Bill Casey wrote...

My Shepard isn't a sniper, so I really dislike the idea that he's as good with a sniper rifle as Garrus...
So my Shepard didn't let him win, he just plain missed...

[HurricaneGinger]

Epsilon330 wrote...

One of the major points about Garrus' story throughout the series is that he feels inferior compared to Shepard, especially in ME1 and 2. In fact, it's strongly suggested that Shepard's influence is holding him back (he builds a successful team after Shep's death in ME2, and becomes a general of some sort during Shepard's incarceration).
Giving him something that tells him "yes, you ARE better than Shepard at some things!" would be a good morale boost. Morale is important in war.

And, one of my Shepards is an Adept...how the HELL could she shoot a sniper anyways?! XD

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 24 mars 2013 - 07:59 .

[NeonFlux117]

Because Garrus is a boss and is the ultimate bro. That moment on the citadel is Garrus's way of saying thank you shepard and I love you- no ******.



Garrus is f*ckin Space Batman, you don't try and 1 up space batman!!!!!!

[shodiswe]

I choose to win it, I can't see why it's renegade to be inspiring, we're friends after all. It should be conforting for him to know I'm watching his back and that I can take care of myself when needed.

This is just me and Garrus having a good time!

It's not like we upped the difficulty level that much, it was mostly for fun, something that's seriously needed considering all that's happening to the galaxy and Garrus family. Having skilled and great people around should be comforting to garrus. I can't see how it would detract from his greatness.

[_- Songlian -]

moater boat wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but when I think of the right way to treat a friend, patronizing behavior and dishonesty are nowhere near the top of MY list.

Now, I'm not saying saying that letting Garrus win makes you bad person...
Actually, wait, that IS what I am saying.


Edit: If you missed because you were actually roll playing and your Shepard simply wasn't as good as Garrus, that makes sense.

To be perfectly honest, you kinda sound like an awful friend. And probbaly 100% wining oriented. 

Which is not what that "contest" was for me. Not at all. 

[shodiswe]

PhantomGinger wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

One of the major points about Garrus' story throughout the series is that he feels inferior compared to Shepard, especially in ME1 and 2. In fact, it's strongly suggested that Shepard's influence is holding him back (he builds a successful team after Shep's death in ME2, and becomes a general of some sort during Shepard's incarceration).
Giving him something that tells him "yes, you ARE better than Shepard at some things!" would be a good morale boost. Morale is important in war.

And, one of my Shepards is an Adept...how the HELL could she shoot a sniper anyways?! XD

Shooting is one thing, hitting your target is another. Do a little training and you can get pretty decent i'm sure. I'm sure the alliance ran people through at least the basics, and N7's.. why not?
Snipers usualy being better at sniping? Makes sense!
But I don't belive in rigged contests and showing you got your partners back if something happens should be comforting. He should feel that if anyone can see this through Shepard can.
I can just immagine how Garrus would feel if Shepard was like Conrad Verner, sure Conrad might be a decent scientist but he doesn't belong out there trying to save the galaxy and getting shot at, it's not his thing.