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[FireAndBlood]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

no wait guys and gals I got the one........... The Catalyst. AKA- Space Brat. Ghost boy. Star child.

incredibly well written character. Just prime example of characterization. Wow. Put's everyone on my prior list to shame- truly "High Level" stuff with the Catalyst. Bioware had Top Men working on that character......... Top.Men.

That stopped being funny a year ago.

On topic Andrew Ryan from Bioshock.

[Dean_the_Young]

There's a difference between being well written and being a lack of written that's ambiguous enough that people are left to fill in the blanks themselves with awesome imaginings. A lot of Bioware antagonists are the later, not the former: Saren has very little actual presence in the story, and the parts of Loghain that warrant the claims for him are almost entirely located behind the wall of optional recruitment, after he stops being the antagonist. In a different disqualifier, the Illusive Man of ME2 was never the antagonist, no matter how much some people disliked him.

I suppose I would pick The Boss from Metal Gear Solid, Snake Eater. She was written in such a way that she had a presence throughout the game, throughout the many other bosses, and her relationship to the protagonist was both antagonistic but so much more.

Master Li from Jade Empire is another one I would consider well written: his exploits are legendary, as is his cunning, and though he isn't the most directly involved figure and is relatively limited, his scheme and ultimate resolution are both well done.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 28 mars 2013 - 12:44 .

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Sajuro wrote...

Loghain MacTir

To honestly suggest that he is worthy of the title of "Best Writen antagonist in Gaming" is an insult to those far more worthy of the title and of that there are many. To suggest that Loghain is worthy of the title would be like saying Big Rigs is worthy of the title of "greatest racing sim in gaming".

[KingJason13]

[Elhanan]

Sajuro wrote...

Loghain MacTir

Agreed.

[RedArmyShogun]

lol U Mad Bro?

[Chashan]

Master Li from Jade Empire is another one I would consider well written:
his exploits are legendary, as is his cunning, and though he isn't the
most directly involved figure and is relatively limited, his scheme and
ultimate resolution are both well done.

Was waiting for the Glorious Strategist to be mentioned...that some of the staff behind ME3 were involved with that project as well, and yet the final confrontation of ME3 turning out to be so dismally below standards in comparison makes the entire affair even more disheartening.

Kane (CnC, though antagonist doesn't necessarily apply as you can play both sides and neither is the classical good vs bad)

Matter of perspective, indeed. Anton Slavik was also a baws, especially his trolling O'Neill at the very end of TS...

[Beerfish]

MingWolf wrote...

Jon Irenicus

This.

[Drone223]

- Darth Malak (KOTOR)
- Kreia (KOTOR II)
- Kane (C&C series)
- Andrew Ryan (Bioshock)
- TIM (Mass Effect)
- GlaDOS (Portal)

Modifié par Drone223, 28 mars 2013 - 09:29 .

[MadParrot]

Don't know about the best of all time, but from recent memory I have to say

ThE Catalyst of REAPERS wrote...

Handsome Jack

[-TC1989-]

Kreia (KOTOR II)
Saren (ME1)
Vaas (Far Cry 3)
TIM (ME)
Frank Tenpenny (GTA: San Andreas)

Modifié par -TC1989-, 29 mars 2013 - 10:23 .

[Naughty Bear]

Captain Martin Walker.

[Addai]

I haven't played a lot of games so my pool is limited, but of those standouts are Loghain and Letho of Gulet. It will be an impressive character that beats out those two.

I give the edge to Letho.  I like an antagonist who could be the protagonist and you wouldn't mind.

Modifié par Addai67, 29 mars 2013 - 12:45 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Master Li - Jade Empire
Ulysses - Fallout New Vegas
Irenicus - Baulders Gate
Loghain - Dragon Age Origins

What makes a good antagonist I think is , the ability to get under the players skin, face them on equal footing, and to actually be a challenge.

Plus the ability to actually be able to see why they do what they do.

[Fast Jimmy]

KingJason13 wrote...

Up until Ultima 9. When The Guardian demonstrates powers that can destroy the Avatar at will, but does not use them and allows the Avatar to weaken his power, guaranteeing his failure.

But, then again, there were worse things that the Guardian in Ultima 9.

[slimgrin]

Letho
Jacques de Aldersberg
Saren
Illusive man.....lol. kidding. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 29 mars 2013 - 01:22 .

[Fast Jimmy]

For my money's worth, Lavos was a pretty awesome concept for an antagonist. Alien, both in appearance and behavior, ultimately powerful and not inherently evil, just destructive and manipulative as its very nature.

[Seboist]

Jacques de Aldersberg (TW1)
Letho (TW2)
Handsome Jack (Borderlands 2)
Hazama/Yuuki Terumi* (Blazblue)

*My personal fave

[jillabender]

My all-time favourite antagonist in a game has to be GLaDOS from Portal - the most hilariously passive-aggressive computer ever! Her brilliant dialogue alone is enough to make the game worthwhile. ("Do you think I'm using reverse psychology on you? I mean, seriously, now.")

[KingJason13]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

KingJason13 wrote...

Up until Ultima 9. When The Guardian demonstrates powers that can destroy the Avatar at will, but does not use them and allows the Avatar to weaken his power, guaranteeing his failure.

But, then again, there were worse things that the Guardian in Ultima 9.

Right. I try to forget Ultima 9.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Not necessarily the best written, but my favorites...
The Combine (HL2)
Dr. Breen (HL2)
G-man (Hl2, though it can be argued that perhaps he is not a true villain)
Kane (C&C)
Captain Martin Walker (Spec Ops : The Line)
The Glorious Strategist (Jade Empire)
Kreia (KOTOR2)
Loghain (DA:O)
Saren (ME1)
Sovereign (ME1)
TIM (Only ME2, in ME3 he is a retard)
Tela Vasir (ME2-LOTSB)
Glados (Portal)

Modifié par Lizardviking, 29 mars 2013 - 01:59 .