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[TheKillerAngel]

JLoowis, you and me can duo a gold game. Unknown/Unknown. You can take the Talon engineer, I'll play an engineer kit of your choice.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 25 mars 2013 - 04:51 .

[Kittstalkur]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

JLoowis, you and me can duo a gold game. Unknown/Unknown. You can take the Talon engineer, I'll play an engineer kit of your choice.

Even the Saboturian? :v

[Pyroninja42]

Kittstalkur wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

JLoowis, you and me can duo a gold game. Unknown/Unknown. You can take the Talon engineer, I'll play an engineer kit of your choice.

Even the Saboturian? :v

inb4lightswitch OH WAIT HE'S BANNED.

[JosLouis70]

etm125 wrote...

We can disagree on his health/shields. I find them God awful. Id probably take a 15% damage haircut if the radius on the stupid trip lines was increased. If youre not spamming it can be really hard to get enemies to trip them. Spamming is dumb unless you can get a nice big group of 4+ or a spawn. Everything else gets the bow+GPS. But youve got reckoning banner done + 6 extractions so you know how he works.

When I played him, he was pre-buffed and I remember jumping on those Armor Piercing Arrows and I didn't spec the Mines.
I was level between 10-15
I found the 8 seconds buff really odd though on Rank 5 Fitness. Even with Melee mods, I couldn't play with him any longer.  So I went full HP/Shields 825/825 and was confused with the weak dmg of Bow. But recently I found out you can hold the Bow for maximum dmg.

We'd probably want to go Fitness AAB and equip a Stronghold Modulator V for safe Silver runs.

[JosLouis70]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

JLoowis, you and me can duo a gold game. Unknown/Unknown. You can take the Talon engineer, I'll play an engineer kit of your choice.

Sure, next weekend.

Add me "JosLouis70"

We gonna do Unknown/Unknown.

I'll need to cure myself from my self-inflicted BSN shot of 1,000 mg in the meantime.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

It's balanced by the Talon Merc's squishyness. Now stop whining

[ValorOfArms777]

JLoowis wrote...

Liefglinde wrote...

...It breaks your heart?

Also, not gonna happen.

inb4scoremeansnothing

You have a quaian Avatar on the forum. Demand a buff of Sticky Grenade.

This grenade requires a lot of skill and precision.

Seeing the Mine being 5 time more powerful is just wrong.

flawful logic I'm sorry to say my friend

stickies are powerful..and they don't need percision unlesss you wanna stick them...they also inherite ammo benafit too..antoher note stickies ONLY exist on Infiltrators...which means they also get cloak blast dmg...

the Tralon Merc....his cain mine is un justfulably incapable at times to trigger on a foe...for some odd reason..it already is potnetially as powerful as a Recon mine....so what? you either go radius what I did OR full manga power with crappy radius woot...

it's not really that powerful in aspect of compairable other powers uses...his power comes directly from good judgmental use of them  there is TRICKS to it just like PROXY mine trick 1 is you can't set it facing upward/downward as for soem reason they only work horizantaly not verticaly  I dunno why.. the last one shot will blow up on it's own if you fire a 4th cuasing the explosion..a nifty trick but at the cost of preping...

again you over/underestimate stuff and you should think a tad more jsut cause "OOO" I scored lower than him.....this argument is also in fact he really dosn't have charming powers on his other 2 uniques so in truth thats his ONLY true powerful power...and he has no combo techs so he's reliance on purely proper thinking...that damage isn't really that notable on gold/plat compairable to say ..dark sphere unles syou somehwo manga spam those...mines like a lunatic...best place to play this char is on like "ghost... as you have 3 doors each small frame so...

each door becomes a potnetial kill streak blast..if lucky

they seem HYPER similar to Frag Grenades honestly...

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 25 mars 2013 - 05:18 .

[JosLouis70]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

It's balanced by the Talon Merc's squishyness. Now stop whining

Awwwwh Dx... Meanies meanies all around.

Sorry but I have to.

*changes tone*

Bwahahaha look at your sig, another ME fan that hated the ending and supports the marauder joke.

Squishyness ? That guy has Combat Roll!!! Not side jump! He actually lowers himself rolling on the side.

*changes tone*

Yo, I'm dead tired... closing laptop. After 32 hours awake. Just you and the types like you up-shut.

Night.   >. -

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I hope they don't touch it, personally.

It's a fun kit and not really anything more insane that what currently exists.

[chefcook90]

JLoowis wrote...

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

It's balanced by the Talon Merc's squishyness. Now stop whining

Awwwwh Dx... Meanies meanies all around.

Sorry but I have to.

*changes tone*

Bwahahaha look at your sig, another ME fan that hated the ending and supports the marauder joke.

Squishyness ? That guy has Combat Roll!!! Not side jump! He actually lowers himself rolling on the side.

*changes tone*

Yo, I'm dead tired... closing laptop. After 32 hours awake. Just you and the types like you up-shut.

Night.   >. -

If your insomnia lasts another 24 hours, see your doctor. You might be having an episode of some kind.

[etm125]

JLoowis wrote...
When I played him, he was pre-buffed and I remember jumping on those Armor Piercing Arrows and I didn't spec the Mines.
I was level between 10-15

aw man you havent tried the bow post buff? Its a bad motha shut yo mouth now. Also probably why our opinion on his health/shields differ. I go full on glass cannon all bow dmg in fitness, no cyclonic mods (power amps instead), no stronghold (grenade cap V mandatory). Super risky but he lays down the law on dmg. 

Build: cain mines 6 (radius, armor dmg, dmg)
concussive 0
AP arrows 6 (dmg, shred, nade cap. All devatable here)
Passives 6 (pwr dmg, pwr dmg, charge gen)
Fitness 6 (all bow dmg)

heres the trick: pack a GPS with dmg and omniblade (moar bow dmg!). Charge GPS, find lone enemy, hold n release heavy melee bow shot and release GPS shot right after the bow shot. Both will home in and hit simultaneously. Extra lol with AP arrows. You can 2 shot a gold brute. 4ish AP arrow GPS salvos can kill a prime/banshee/atlas without shields. Then theres still the cain mines. Great for setting trips to watch your back and spammable for big ass spawns. The kit is sooooo much fun. 

[hell wolf 95]

thats like saying fix the jug because he has to much shields and can regen his shields so stop ur ****en he is very useful unlike krogan warlord who gets executed every five seconds on platinum

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

This is still going on? Let it go OP. No one agrees with you.

[IIFlash]

JLoowis wrote...

IIFlash wrote...

You are yet to respond to the examples I gave you.

Also you have made no mention of that the fact that in that video Cain Mines are benefiting from Recon Mine debuff, they are not stand alone. 

1. I don't have to reply to your examples you gave early. I don't care about the Infiltrators using Nades, I don't spec them with nades.

2. It's just obssessivity of Narida class Builder and numbers you're throwing out there of kits not appealing to play.

3. I'm talking about a class that has 10 nades + and regains one each 25 seconds. Totally different than old kits.

4. I don't have to say they're using all the best odds in their favor

1. No you do not, but don't flat out disregard anothers argument and ask for them to "amaze" you with examples.
Or maybe I should follow your logic and simply say that when you've played more, I'll take your opinion seriously.

2. "Not appealing to play" understand that fun is completely subjective, you cannot say that the person spamming Cain Mines/Grenades is not having fun. In this regard you have no right to tell them not to do it just because it is ruining your fun, if you have a problem either find a different lobby or play with friends.

3. Demolisher can also carry 10+ grenades and can restock them at a faster rate than the Talon Merc.

4. Then don't use said videos as an example of something being OP. Under optimal conditions many other powers/grenades/weapons perform comparably. 

[IIFlash]

JLoowis wrote...

chefcook90 wrote...

Agreed.
Hell, I've joined half-way through Gold matches with my Juggernaut   and topped the scoreboard; and he isn't even a grenade user!


Talon Engineer is nothing special - his grenades are just easier to use because the proximity triggers mean they never miss.



Also, who complains about not having anything to kill!? It's easy credits!
Personally I find watching pros doing work to be highly entertaining.

When I see emoticons, you're already on my hate list.

Second of all, you're stupid.

Save yourself, and watch his Manifest.

http://social.biowar...cfr&platform=pc

He's a casual scrub player, taking advantage of easy build that are exploitable pretty well.

He only did 16 Gold match since last year halloween, and 0 Platinum.

I wish your game crashes more often from now on.

Another example of a well thought out argument.

The 2nd part is completely irrelevant since you both were playing in Silver.
Also your posting the Manifest of a person you do not know and calling them a scrub, pretty sure you can get banned for that.

[Kittstalkur]

Guys pls. Let the thread die.

[Nrofl]

Kittstalkur wrote...

Guys pls. Let the thread die.

He says, bumping the thread.

Wait... now i did it too.

Damn.

Modifié par Nrofl, 25 mars 2013 - 07:13 .

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Hahahahaha, no.

[Oni Changas]

They're M92 Cain mines. They're also his only good power in all situations.

[mokachino]

Silverblade-T-E wrote...

JLoowis wrote...

Silverblade-T-E wrote...

yeah this is a load of hooey! Original poster got out done by a good player, TOUGH!
Talon is my fave, but I've still been outdone by good Infiltrators and others. So what?

Good player ?

http://social.biowar...cfr&platform=pc

It's more like a scrub who farmed Golds with this build, until he got 0 Medi Gels and 0 Rockets.

So he'd go back to silver and spam that power but bother the good guys.

Check his Talon build on Engineer tab.

"scrub"...I hate that term and really do not get why it's even used as it's so meaningless and nasty
There's only two kinds of players: those who'll help their team, and those who're ****s.
If a player kills the enemy, helps with objectives, rezzes the fallen hey, great!

he has a BOW build, which is tricky as you die like a fly in a geth pyros's blowtorch
it can be incredibly powerful if you get in the right "shooting spot", but that's same as an infiltrator setting up in right spot with a Widow etc, mobs can dodge the arrows or worse, phantoms and praetorians use the "bubble of BULL****" to stop them (really sucks when they do that to an AP arrow, wasting the charges)

Wanna see real massive carnage,fast? Asari vanguard: bubble, HULK SMASH! GRENADES!...tricky but ye gods *in the hands of a good player*, it's awesome.

If the Talon was overpowered you'd see tons of folk using them, you don't, I do see a lot of juggernaut players because they are new, less tricky, VASTLY less squishy, less work to play....and when played well, they are an absolute dream to have on your team.

I hate it when folk ask for nerfs xcept when somehting is way broken, every damn nerf ruins someone's game!! THIS IS NOT GOOD! It puts folk off playing so don't bloody do it! Or you end up in a whiny **** fest that destroys a game and so few folk play it.

LoL the Cain Mines are OP. I know because I just made a Platinum solo with him:D.

My theory of why people dont use him a lot It's because their build is bow-based. DOnt get me wrong I dont think the bow is bad, it's just not awesome like Cain mines .

Also, They won't get nerfed. at lest not until bioware fixes the bug on pc, which It may not be happening at all.

[Koenig888]

JLoowis wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

JLoowis, you and me can duo a gold game. Unknown/Unknown. You can take the Talon engineer, I'll play an engineer kit of your choice.

Sure, next weekend.

Add me "JosLouis70"

We gonna do Unknown/Unknown.

I'll need to cure myself from my self-inflicted BSN shot of 1,000 mg in the meantime.

I'll wager 1,000,000 credits on TheKillerAngel.  In the unlikely event that I lose, please collect from the Volus at the Citadel.

[JosLouis70]

IIFlash wrote...

IIFlash wrote stuff.

Okay look, Imma go play with the Talon Engineer now and look for myself if it's that exploitable.

I might change my mind after using Ops Pack, for charging in spawns throwing Cain Trips.

Or rage medi gels to make sure I even get the chance to nuke spawns in wave 1-2 (like a Fury would do)


I think it's balanced. Playing this class offensively requires to buy more Jumbo Packs.

I want to play the game now. Thanks to you all.

[flux gt]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

It's balanced by the Talon Merc's squishyness. Now stop whining

This!

[JosLouis70]

etm125 wrote...

JLoowis wrote...
When I played him, he was pre-buffed and I remember jumping on those Armor Piercing Arrows and I didn't spec the Mines.
I was level between 10-15

aw man you havent tried the bow post buff? Its a bad motha shut yo mouth now. Also probably why our opinion on his health/shields differ. I go full on glass cannon all bow dmg in fitness, no cyclonic mods (power amps instead), no stronghold (grenade cap V mandatory). Super risky but he lays down the law on dmg. 

Build: cain mines 6 (radius, armor dmg, dmg)
concussive 0
AP arrows 6 (dmg, shred, nade cap. All devatable here)
Passives 6 (pwr dmg, pwr dmg, charge gen)
Fitness 6 (all bow dmg)

heres the trick: pack a GPS with dmg and omniblade (moar bow dmg!). Charge GPS, find lone enemy, hold n release heavy melee bow shot and release GPS shot right after the bow shot. Both will home in and hit simultaneously. Extra lol with AP arrows. You can 2 shot a gold brute. 4ish AP arrow GPS salvos can kill a prime/banshee/atlas without shields. Then theres still the cain mines. Great for setting trips to watch your back and spammable for big ass spawns. The kit is sooooo much fun. 

Thanks man a lot for showing his full dmg build. I'll get Shock Trooper V for 12% Shotgun dmg and +2 Nades
or Grenade Capacity V... I don't know. I'll see.

[JosLouis70]

Just played a U/U/S

We got Condor Geth.

Using a chargeable weapons makes the usage of cover really tricky.

I was a level 7 Talon. GPS with Melee blade and Ext barrel.

Rank 3 AP Arrows
Rank 3 Passive
Rank 3 Fitness

I finished 1st BUT! Used 1 Rocket, 3 Medi Gels, and 2 Ops Pack. The team too died a lot.

The whole team was low shielded but overall, it was a nice blend. Stasis Asari with Collector Sniper, Shield boost from Volus with Locust and a Female Quarian Black Widow.

It's long range goodness, a bit buggy at times, and you feel the enemies wall-hacking you sometimes off host.

Will play more.