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[HolyAvenger]

If you like Ash, stick with her. I've never done a PT where I've chosen Morinth, for example.

I go about 50-50 on Kaidan/Ash saves.

[kumquats]

I made sure I saved both of them, for ME3. After ME3 I say: If you love Ashley, let her die in ME1.
Let her die as a hero....

[Nykara]

I've always found it really really hard to leave Kaidan behind in ME1. I've only done it once which is my current play through. Even in ME2 it feels strange, I keep thinking I am going to meet up with Kaidan on Horizon 'soon' and have to keep reminding myself it'll be Ash not Kaidan. I think it will be even more strange in ME3! Looking forward to seeing the differences just once though.

[Hendrik.III]

Last ME1 playthrough I sacrificed Ash, because that Shep doesn't need religious xenophobes on his ship. She's hot in ME3, but I think her romance in ME3 is a bit bland.

Most playthroughs I sacrificed Kaidan though, just because he is a useless ****** in combat

[Argolas]

Hendrik.III wrote...

Last ME1 playthrough I sacrificed Ash, because that Shep doesn't need religious xenophobes on his ship. She's hot in ME3, but I think her romance in ME3 is a bit bland.

Most playthroughs I sacrificed Kaidan though, just because he is a useless ****** in combat

'sigh* Xenophobe, yeah right. Ashley is pretty comfortable around alien friends for a xenophobe. Ashley is politically cautious against foreign powers and that's it. She is perfectly right by the way. Her bear and dog analogy was on the spot, that's exactly what happens at the beginning of ME3.

And what's the matter with her being religious? She is no Zealot or something, her faith never hurts anyone.

[nrobbiec]

Artifex_Imperius wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

(and Artifex, you're a homophobic, sexist pig - and I don't use either words easily) 

is that how you'd describe a man who has chivalrous intentions.

someone who believes in saving women and children first.

a gentleman who'd offer his seat on a bus to lady.

well sorry just can help myself trying to be a knight in shining armor and believing in the good hearts of men.

Sorry I'm not sure if you're being serious but that actually made me laugh. You have a lofty view of yourself, you sound like an old man. If there are no seats on a bus, you stand or you wait for the next bus if there's no standing room. No way in hell would I give up a seat just because it's a woman who's standing, she can deal with it.
Maybe your point of view would be valid in like the 1940s but not now. 

[George Costanza]

I tend to save Kaiden on account of Ashley being a ****.

[Steelcan]

Ashley hasn't lived past Virmire ever. She's incompetent and annoying.

[NovaBlastMarketing]

two above posters your opinion is in the minority  according to official stats. She beat K and  I think she is one of the best characters in  the game and  got even  better in  everyway in ME3 as well as having the better skill sets as well. 

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 25 mars 2013 - 03:15 .

[AndreasShepard]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

two above posters your opinion is in the minority  according to official stats. She beat K and  I think she is one of the best characters in  the game and  got even  better in  everyway in ME3 as well as having the better skill sets as well. 

The same official stats where 64% of players didn't even meet Wrex?

Seriously that counts for nothing, those are just casual players who play through ME one time and never look back, they don't take the time to get to know the characters in depth and make the Virmire decision purely based on who has boobs and who doesn't.  However when you look at polls/forum topics taken months after the release date Kaidan fares much better and even beats Ashley in some instances as being more popular.

And the dude has overload and reave, you can't get much better than that in terms of useful skillsets.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 25 mars 2013 - 03:35 .

[Exile Isan]

Also if you start a game in ME3 and select a male character (as many new players did) then Kaidan is dead by default.

[Shadow Shep]

After the cold shoulder I've gotten from both of them in ME2, I just save Kirrahe and leave both of them to 'splode on Virmire.

[Toolbox 24]

I used to be a bit of an Ashley fanboy - can you blame me with dat arse?

But i tried a playthrough with Kaiden and haven't looked back, he's like a brother to Shepard...albeit an incestuous brother if you play your cards right in ME3, but a brother nonetheless!!!!

He's a proper dude, he hangs out with the guys, he has Reave and other cool abilities and rocks the shizzle.

Ashley is a character that wasn't seen again after ME2, only to be replaced with Lt Cdr Sexypants.

[George Costanza]

Kaiden is just nicer. Ashley is a dick. And she keeps harping on about "Oh the aliens!" and it winds me up. So she's pretty much always toast on Virmire.

I'm not bothered about being in the minority (and the infographic is misleading anyway, as it only takes ME3 into account, so first time players would skew the results).

[Dieb]

Damn. Both.

Ashley is part of my Shepard's story and his LI. Also a damned powerful squadmate in ME3, as if that would really make a difference.
But Kaidan was to me in the first game, what Garrus suddenly was forced to be in the second. My off-the-record-talk, go-to-guy, my brother in arms. Said it often before, but I probably had the hardest time on Virmire, and still do. Can't I trade in Liara?

Modifié par Baelrahn, 25 mars 2013 - 03:51 .

[nrobbiec]

Exile Isan wrote...

Also if you start a game in ME3 and select a male character (as many new players did) then Kaidan is dead by default.

No he isn't. You can choose to have Ashley as your combat loss.

[Asch Lavigne]

In ME2 the VS was based on Shep's sex. In 3 you can choose or take the "numerous" option which bases it off Shep's sex.

[nrobbiec]

I didn't realise it was the opposite sex VS who gets too close to the beacon on Eden Prime, since I used console commands to access the cut Kaidan romance, he got too close to the beacon and male Shepard pulled him out of the way.

[MrStoob]

ME1 Kaidan... just put me off completely, dull conversations. The original 'Jacob' in my view, in the 'pile of grey sludge' camp of characters. Kaidan eats nuclear blast every time for me. I think I saved him once but gawd knows where / which that save file is.

For Ash, I took from her wanting to tease Liara about her sex life and her close sisterly bonds so that she is a fun-loving person. I found this confirmed somewhat in the ME3 conversations about her dad and the 'girly horde'. I was happy with the drinking contest banter in the Citadel DLC, Ash calling herself the glamorous Spectre and all that, just how I viewed her and F!Shep to be; teasing and competitive.

[Hazegurl]

erilben wrote...

A gunnery chief is not a grunt. Also there is a good reason to save the person at the AA tower. If the geth turn the AA gun back on, they will shoot down the Normandy.

Really most of you picked who you did because s/he was your love interest, or you liked them better, or you hope they will love you later. That was the point of that choice.

Compared to an L2 biotic and tech specialist, yes she is a grunt.

[SwordofMercy1]

My thoughts...
ME1: Alenko's a little whiny.I won't romance him and I'll save Ashley because I need a soldier companion.
ME2: Ashley no! I love you! Come back and be my bro! I can look past the fact you are extremely paranoid!
ME3:... WTF BIOWARE?! If I wanted a 'Miranda' I would have let her live in ME2. Screw it, I'm changing it so Alenko is alive D:<!

[PwrdOff]

I do like how ME bucked the usual trend by making the man the sensitive space magic user and the woman the hardass soldier, although both characters would probably have been better received if they had stuck to the formula. To be fair though, there are plenty of other squadmates who do conform to the usual paradigm.

[Dmthoth]

In ME3 Kaidan is a commander of the 1st Special Operations Biotic Company, a covert operations unit.
He try to contact and find his company's members on earth and carry about.
Well, I guess he is s sociable person.
And for the biotics 'Reave' is a awesome skill to use biotic explosion.

Ashely? I have no idea what she made through before ME3.
And in the middle of the war.. she care about only her sister's husband? really?
there was no ex-squadmate, friends or something?
So now is clear, why she hadn't ever hanged out with other guys in Nordmandy.
although, why even we need her in ME3? We have already human soldier, Vega.

[pprrff]

I hate the Virmire event. I don't hate it that it forces me to let a squadmate die, I hate it because I have to replay all 3 games just so I can see the different content the way I like.

[darthnick427]

Kaidan is better than Ashley as far as powers go in ME3 and he gets more interaction and is better written in ME3 as well. So Kaidan is better imo