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[ZombifiedJake]

I like Ash but the writers did a terrible job for her in the third game. Still, I don't really like any of the other romance options apart from her, so it's a tough call when it comes to doing a second trilogy playthrough. I'll probably save her again. It's either her as a romance, never annoying Liara, or... well, playing it solo.

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Logically... Kaiden.
Now before you jump ship, I saved Ashley BUT

Kaiden is higher rank
Kaiden is a biotic
Kaiden is more of an expensive asset to the alliance
Kaiden is not only more expensive, but also more precious, biotics are rare.
Kaiden is more coolheaded

Ashley is a better soldier/grunt.

I saved Ashley. Dont ask me why , I dont know either.

Rank dosnt  add "worth" to somone .  

 Kaiden is a liablity  "Kaidan is a biotic wired with the controversial L2 implants, which are known to cause severe neurological damage to the user. "  He is prone to migrans  ... sorry  i cant move at the moment can you tell the  reaper forces to come back later i havea headache

In the military higher rank means you are more expensive. So yes. No different than Anderson being above Shepard, or Shepard being above Kaiden and Kaiden Above AShley.

Kaiden is prone ot migranes, not paralyzing illnesses. That is explained. Wrex even goes deeper and explaining that a little jolt to you shouldn't stop you from getting stronger.

So everything you got is based on what you believe rather than what the game has shown.

They are known to have cripling side effects, but as you dont pay attention to the lore you never heard chawkas saying Kaiden was the exemption with only suffering occassional migraines. You can work with  migraine, and most certainly save your own ass as well.

Please Stick to the lore and not on what you can come up with. If he was a liability the Systems alliance hires them why?

LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

Rank means nothing when   comes to battle performance ... so basically what you r saying is  Admiral Hackett would be more valuable on the front  lines than  everyone of lower rank than him ?

Fine whatever  excuse  you want o make about the "lore"  it still comes down to

 A Biotic with   migraines   vrs   Top Alliance Officer , sniper and assault weapons specialist  who doesn't  and with the right weapon has a skill set could probably take him out before   he  even got in range

 Even if you take  Ash  out of the  picture and put Liara in her place Kaiden still loses.

Liara  is the  most  valuable  and powerful  biotic on the ship in ME 1  and 3

I only  use her if i am forced to . So if i am not going to use  Liara   I defiantly not going to use kaiden.

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 26 mars 2013 - 09:48 .

[Chiantirose1982]

Im on Kaidan's team and as much as I like Ashley and as much as I wish I could leave Tali or Liara, I cant. 

Kaidan being boring. I think Tali is boring, she has nothing to tell you other than the freaking story about Quarians... /yawn. I only talk to her when I got the Geth quest done and give her the damn data, then its back to ignoring her.

[Adoramei]

Exile Isan wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...
I personally believe in equal opportunity since i don't think Ashley would appreciate being spared simply because she's a woman.

I don't think she would either. If someone saves her simply because she's a woman then, IMHO, you are doing her character a massive disservice.

Unless you're thinking of it in a RP sense I guess. I mean.. Shepard is only human. Yes, it's a bit backward as you, the player. Especially if you claim to truly understand her character. But if that's Shepard's choice for his/her own reasons, then you're just playing a Shepard that hasn't quite reached a certain point in social progression.

However, that being said, Shepard tends to be a conduit for the player's personality in ways. It's hard to distinguish between your motivations and your characters' motivation. I mean, it's hard for us not to just find a way to justify it if we think it's right as a person I guess. Heh. It's kinda funny that I'm even saying this with my complete dislike for her character on a personal level. Eh heh.

[Spartas Husky]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...


LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

And again you just dont give a damn about the lore. So arguing about what the game says vs what you come up with on your own is pointless.

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 26 mars 2013 - 09:46 .

[Chiantirose1982]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Logically... Kaiden.
Now before you jump ship, I saved Ashley BUT

Kaiden is higher rank
Kaiden is a biotic
Kaiden is more of an expensive asset to the alliance
Kaiden is not only more expensive, but also more precious, biotics are rare.
Kaiden is more coolheaded

Ashley is a better soldier/grunt.

I saved Ashley. Dont ask me why , I dont know either.

Rank dosnt  add "worth" to somone .  

 Kaiden is a liablity  "Kaidan is a biotic wired with the controversial L2 implants, which are known to cause severe neurological damage to the user. "  He is prone to migrans  ... sorry  i cant move at the moment can you tell the  reaper forces to come back later i havea headache

In the military higher rank means you are more expensive. So yes. No different than Anderson being above Shepard, or Shepard being above Kaiden and Kaiden Above AShley.

Kaiden is prone ot migranes, not paralyzing illnesses. That is explained. Wrex even goes deeper and explaining that a little jolt to you shouldn't stop you from getting stronger.

So everything you got is based on what you believe rather than what the game has shown.

They are known to have cripling side effects, but as you dont pay attention to the lore you never heard chawkas saying Kaiden was the exemption with only suffering occassional migraines. You can work with  migraine, and most certainly save your own ass as well.

Please Stick to the lore and not on what you can come up with. If he was a liability the Systems alliance hires them why?

LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

Rank means nothing when   comes to battle performance ... so basically what you r saying is  Admiral Hackett would be more valuable on the front  lines than  everyone of lower rank than him ?

Fine whatever

 Still A Biotic with   migraines   vrs   Top Alliance Officer , sniper and assault weapons specialist  who doesn't  and with the right weapon has a skill set could probably take him out before   he  even got in range

Even if you take  Ash  out of the  picture and put Liara in her place Kaiden still loses.

Liara  is the  most  valuable and powerful  biotic on the ship in ME 1  and 3 I only  use her if i am forced to . So if i am not going to use  Liara   I defiantly not going to use kaiden.

If rank has nothing to do with battle performance, then his backstory doesn't have anything to do with it either. I mean you sound like he is sitting in his room every other mission and you can't use him because he has headaches.

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...


LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

And again you just dont give a damn about the lore. So arguing about what the game says vs what you come up with on your own is pointless.

 
 
if you had actually read my last post it has nothing to do with lore.  Kaiden is niether  the most  powerful biotic  or   solider  on the ship.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I find Kaidan boring so I just tend to be cruel to him so he won't flirt with Shep. Ashley on the other hand makes a good friend for FemShep in ME1, shame they messed that up in ME3. I do sort of want the Kaidan achievement in ME1 so I'll have to keep him if I want to get that, but I'll try for the Wrex and Garrus ones before I bother with the Kaidan one.

[Spartas Husky]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...


 
If you had actually read my last post it has nothing to do with lore.  Kaiden is niether  the most  powerful biotic  or   solider  on the ship.

My point exactly.<_<

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 26 mars 2013 - 09:58 .

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Logically... Kaiden.
Now before you jump ship, I saved Ashley BUT

Kaiden is higher rank
Kaiden is a biotic
Kaiden is more of an expensive asset to the alliance
Kaiden is not only more expensive, but also more precious, biotics are rare.
Kaiden is more coolheaded

Ashley is a better soldier/grunt.

I saved Ashley. Dont ask me why , I dont know either.

Rank dosnt  add "worth" to somone .  

 Kaiden is a liablity  "Kaidan is a biotic wired with the controversial L2 implants, which are known to cause severe neurological damage to the user. "  He is prone to migrans  ... sorry  i cant move at the moment can you tell the  reaper forces to come back later i havea headache

In the military higher rank means you are more expensive. So yes. No different than Anderson being above Shepard, or Shepard being above Kaiden and Kaiden Above AShley.

Kaiden is prone ot migranes, not paralyzing illnesses. That is explained. Wrex even goes deeper and explaining that a little jolt to you shouldn't stop you from getting stronger.

So everything you got is based on what you believe rather than what the game has shown.

They are known to have cripling side effects, but as you dont pay attention to the lore you never heard chawkas saying Kaiden was the exemption with only suffering occassional migraines. You can work with  migraine, and most certainly save your own ass as well.

Please Stick to the lore and not on what you can come up with. If he was a liability the Systems alliance hires them why?

LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

Rank means nothing when   comes to battle performance ... so basically what you r saying is  Admiral Hackett would be more valuable on the front  lines than  everyone of lower rank than him ?

Fine whatever

 Still A Biotic with   migraines   vrs   Top Alliance Officer , sniper and assault weapons specialist  who doesn't  and with the right weapon has a skill set could probably take him out before   he  even got in range

Even if you take  Ash  out of the  picture and put Liara in her place Kaiden still loses.

Liara  is the  most  valuable and powerful  biotic on the ship in ME 1  and 3 I only  use her if i am forced to . So if i am not going to use  Liara   I defiantly not going to use kaiden.

If rank has nothing to do with battle performance, then his backstory doesn't have anything to do with it either. I mean you sound like he is sitting in his room every other mission and you can't use him because he has headaches.

No   if i want a biotic i am going to do it myself as i usually play one   or  I am going to  take liara shes the most powerful.  If I want a  solider  I am going to Take ash If i need a tech i am going to take tali.

[MACharlie1]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Logically... Kaiden.
Now before you jump ship, I saved Ashley BUT

Kaiden is higher rank
Kaiden is a biotic
Kaiden is more of an expensive asset to the alliance
Kaiden is not only more expensive, but also more precious, biotics are rare.
Kaiden is more coolheaded

Ashley is a better soldier/grunt.

I saved Ashley. Dont ask me why , I dont know either.

Rank dosnt  add "worth" to somone .  

 Kaiden is a liablity  "Kaidan is a biotic wired with the controversial L2 implants, which are known to cause severe neurological damage to the user. "  He is prone to migrans  ... sorry  i cant move at the moment can you tell the  reaper forces to come back later i havea headache

In the military higher rank means you are more expensive. So yes. No different than Anderson being above Shepard, or Shepard being above Kaiden and Kaiden Above AShley.

Kaiden is prone ot migranes, not paralyzing illnesses. That is explained. Wrex even goes deeper and explaining that a little jolt to you shouldn't stop you from getting stronger.

So everything you got is based on what you believe rather than what the game has shown.

They are known to have cripling side effects, but as you dont pay attention to the lore you never heard chawkas saying Kaiden was the exemption with only suffering occassional migraines. You can work with  migraine, and most certainly save your own ass as well.

Please Stick to the lore and not on what you can come up with. If he was a liability the Systems alliance hires them why?

LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

Rank means nothing when   comes to battle performance ... so basically what you r saying is  Admiral Hackett would be more valuable on the front  lines than  everyone of lower rank than him ?

Fine whatever

 Still A Biotic with   migraines   vrs   Top Alliance Officer , sniper and assault weapons specialist  who doesn't  and with the right weapon has a skill set could probably take him out before   he  even got in range

Even if you take  Ash  out of the  picture and put Liara in her place Kaiden still loses.

Liara  is the  most  valuable and powerful  biotic on the ship in ME 1  and 3 I only  use her if i am forced to . So if i am not going to use  Liara   I defiantly not going to use kaiden.

If rank has nothing to do with battle performance, then his backstory doesn't have anything to do with it either. I mean you sound like he is sitting in his room every other mission and you can't use him because he has headaches.

No   if i want a biotic i am going to do it myself as i usually play one   or  I am going to  take liara shes the most powerful.  If I want a  solider  I am going to Take ash If i need a tech i am going to take tali.

...can...can you please type coherently? Us onlookers are having a difficult time understanding you and taking you seriously. Thanks. 

[NovaBlastMarketing]

MACharlie1 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Logically... Kaiden.
Now before you jump ship, I saved Ashley BUT

Kaiden is higher rank
Kaiden is a biotic
Kaiden is more of an expensive asset to the alliance
Kaiden is not only more expensive, but also more precious, biotics are rare.
Kaiden is more coolheaded

Ashley is a better soldier/grunt.

I saved Ashley. Dont ask me why , I dont know either.

Rank dosnt  add "worth" to somone .  

 Kaiden is a liablity  "Kaidan is a biotic wired with the controversial L2 implants, which are known to cause severe neurological damage to the user. "  He is prone to migrans  ... sorry  i cant move at the moment can you tell the  reaper forces to come back later i havea headache

In the military higher rank means you are more expensive. So yes. No different than Anderson being above Shepard, or Shepard being above Kaiden and Kaiden Above AShley.

Kaiden is prone ot migranes, not paralyzing illnesses. That is explained. Wrex even goes deeper and explaining that a little jolt to you shouldn't stop you from getting stronger.

So everything you got is based on what you believe rather than what the game has shown.

They are known to have cripling side effects, but as you dont pay attention to the lore you never heard chawkas saying Kaiden was the exemption with only suffering occassional migraines. You can work with  migraine, and most certainly save your own ass as well.

Please Stick to the lore and not on what you can come up with. If he was a liability the Systems alliance hires them why?

LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

Rank means nothing when   comes to battle performance ... so basically what you r saying is  Admiral Hackett would be more valuable on the front  lines than  everyone of lower rank than him ?

Fine whatever

 Still A Biotic with   migraines   vrs   Top Alliance Officer , sniper and assault weapons specialist  who doesn't  and with the right weapon has a skill set could probably take him out before   he  even got in range

Even if you take  Ash  out of the  picture and put Liara in her place Kaiden still loses.

Liara  is the  most  valuable and powerful  biotic on the ship in ME 1  and 3 I only  use her if i am forced to . So if i am not going to use  Liara   I defiantly not going to use kaiden.

If rank has nothing to do with battle performance, then his backstory doesn't have anything to do with it either. I mean you sound like he is sitting in his room every other mission and you can't use him because he has headaches.

No   if i want a biotic i am going to do it myself as i usually play one   or  I am going to  take liara shes the most powerful.  If I want a  solider  I am going to Take ash If i need a tech i am going to take tali.

...can...can you please type coherently? Us onlookers are having a difficult time understanding you and taking you seriously. Thanks. 

if you cant read that may i suggest some english lessons? granted its not  at the english major level  but  hey  I wasnt going for perfection

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 26 mars 2013 - 10:07 .

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...


 
If you had actually read my last post it has nothing to do with lore.  Kaiden is niether  the most  powerful biotic  or   solider  on the ship.

My point exactly.<_<

You have  twisted my point as i stated below ther is no situation  on  where I would choose kaiden over  any other  of the squad.

 Just for the record I just read his wiki  ...it dosnt change anything . 

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 26 mars 2013 - 10:11 .

[MACharlie1]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Logically... Kaiden.
Now before you jump ship, I saved Ashley BUT

Kaiden is higher rank
Kaiden is a biotic
Kaiden is more of an expensive asset to the alliance
Kaiden is not only more expensive, but also more precious, biotics are rare.
Kaiden is more coolheaded

Ashley is a better soldier/grunt.

I saved Ashley. Dont ask me why , I dont know either.

Rank dosnt  add "worth" to somone .  

 Kaiden is a liablity  "Kaidan is a biotic wired with the controversial L2 implants, which are known to cause severe neurological damage to the user. "  He is prone to migrans  ... sorry  i cant move at the moment can you tell the  reaper forces to come back later i havea headache

In the military higher rank means you are more expensive. So yes. No different than Anderson being above Shepard, or Shepard being above Kaiden and Kaiden Above AShley.

Kaiden is prone ot migranes, not paralyzing illnesses. That is explained. Wrex even goes deeper and explaining that a little jolt to you shouldn't stop you from getting stronger.

So everything you got is based on what you believe rather than what the game has shown.

They are known to have cripling side effects, but as you dont pay attention to the lore you never heard chawkas saying Kaiden was the exemption with only suffering occassional migraines. You can work with  migraine, and most certainly save your own ass as well.

Please Stick to the lore and not on what you can come up with. If he was a liability the Systems alliance hires them why?

LOL serisoly ..did you  even read what you wrote ? 

 I am talking about  battle perromance .

Rank means nothing when   comes to battle performance ... so basically what you r saying is  Admiral Hackett would be more valuable on the front  lines than  everyone of lower rank than him ?

Fine whatever

 Still A Biotic with   migraines   vrs   Top Alliance Officer , sniper and assault weapons specialist  who doesn't  and with the right weapon has a skill set could probably take him out before   he  even got in range

Even if you take  Ash  out of the  picture and put Liara in her place Kaiden still loses.

Liara  is the  most  valuable and powerful  biotic on the ship in ME 1  and 3 I only  use her if i am forced to . So if i am not going to use  Liara   I defiantly not going to use kaiden.

If rank has nothing to do with battle performance, then his backstory doesn't have anything to do with it either. I mean you sound like he is sitting in his room every other mission and you can't use him because he has headaches.

No   if i want a biotic i am going to do it myself as i usually play one   or  I am going to  take liara shes the most powerful.  If I want a  solider  I am going to Take ash If i need a tech i am going to take tali.

...can...can you please type coherently? Us onlookers are having a difficult time understanding you and taking you seriously. Thanks. 

if you cant read that may i suggest some english lessons? granted its not  at the english major level  but  hey  I wasnt going for perfection

You put in actual punctuation and spaced it more properly so I think I got what I wanted. 

(and look up the word coherently) 

Modifié par MACharlie1, 26 mars 2013 - 10:11 .

[Chiantirose1982]

@NovaBlastMarketing

I get what you saying, but if you always want the best of the best, by your logic you wouldn't use Garrus or Wrex either because they are not "The best" of anything as well.

I like to use Kaidan in ME1 because he has me covered when it comes to unlocking things/ or decrypting and he also has throw and lift. Those are usually everything I need, granted you can argue the whole overload and warp but that's when you can bring in Liara or Tali. I like to bring Wrex for warp, but that's just me.

I understand that there are different opinions, but bringing his headaches in the discussion just doesn't add anything and doesn't stop him from being useful squadmate.

[Reikilea]

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

Im on Kaidan's team and as much as I like Ashley and as much as I wish I could leave Tali or Liara, I cant. 

Kaidan being boring. I think Tali is boring, she has nothing to tell you other than the freaking story about Quarians... /yawn. I only talk to her when I got the Geth quest done and give her the damn data, then its back to ignoring her.

I confess. I actually forgot there was a quarian Tali in ME. So when I found out she has got such a big banbase I couldn´t wrap my head around it.  (I admit she got better in ME2, her fanbase demanded good).

Well, then I should feel glad boys go for girls like that. At least in games. There is a hope for geek girls.

I kind of never understood why Shepard would take Tali or Liara to battle. I mean she is a kid and I am sure she would be quite unexerienced fighter. Great tech maybe, but fighter? Nah. Same Liara with her archaelogist background. Do they usually train them in combat.

So from the squadmates only people who makes sense as a squadmates for battle are Kaidan, Ash and Garrus. I know Wrex is cool and strong, but ehm krogan with hard anger management and trust issues, who doesnt really seems to like being told what to do..

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

@NovaBlastMarketing

I get what you saying, but if you always want the best of the best, by your logic you wouldn't use Garrus or Wrex either because they are not "The best" of anything as well.

I like to use Kaidan in ME1 because he has me covered when it comes to unlocking things/ or decrypting and he also has throw and lift. Those are usually everything I need, granted you can argue the whole overload and warp but that's when you can bring in Liara or Tali. I like to bring Wrex for warp, but that's just me.

I understand that there are different opinions, but bringing his headaches in the discussion just doesn't add anything and doesn't stop him from being useful squadmate.

 Your right I dont use them at all unless I am forced to.

All playthoughs of  Me1 and 2  I have  used 

ME 1 & 3 Ash and Tali   

ME 2 Miranda and Tali  

 At all times  I have  had  full choice in the matter.

As for the headache mabey since  it has no actual  berring onthe game . But  neither does  his "lore" that keep getting bashed over my head .Alot of  people here  have said worse things about Ash.- which is not an exuse to use  "headaches"  simply a fact.

Another fact  is that the game is designed   to leave  him there if your male  you want ot romance Ash .

 I still belive that Ash is more  valuable  than he is on paper. looking at skill sets alone

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 26 mars 2013 - 10:47 .

[ChuckTesla]

Reikilea wrote...

I kind of never understood why Shepard would take Tali or Liara to battle. I mean she is a kid and I am sure she would be quite unexerienced fighter. Great tech maybe, but fighter? Nah. Same Liara with her archaelogist background. Do they usually train them in combat.

Thank God someone else noticed that. Liara ducks her head and hides when you fight that Krogan on Therum. Shepard responds to her inability to fight by... giving her a pistol, armor and having her be an actual squad mate. It made no sense whatsoever. Same with Tali, even though she still has a shotgun when you first see her. I guess she learned to be proficient with shotguns while on the Rayya.

[Adoramei]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Another fact  is that the game is designed   to leave  him there if your male  you want ot romance Ash .

Technically, I think the game was designed so you make the choice on who to leave based on your own reasons. If you want to go based on facts of how it was designed, there's voice acting for same-sex romances as well. For ME1 and ME2. So it wasn't just: save Ashley if you're male, then romance her.  The game was designed with choices. My fiance plays MaleShep on his playthroughs and has only saved Ashley once- on the game that he deleted. Every other playthrough, he's chosen for Kaidan to live.

I also know people who have left their LI behind for RP reasons because they thought it was the better choice and not because they like the other character better. All about choice!

.. Not really an argument. Just.. adding in my two cents.

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Adoramei wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Another fact  is that the game is designed   to leave  him there if your male  you want ot romance Ash .

Technically, I think the game was designed so you make the choice on who to leave based on your own reasons. If you want to go based on facts of how it was designed, there's voice acting for same-sex romances as well. For ME1 and ME2. So it wasn't just: save Ashley if you're male, then romance her.  The game was designed with choices. My fiance plays MaleShep on his playthroughs and has only saved Ashley once- on the game that he deleted. Every other playthrough, he's chosen for Kaidan to live.

I also know people who have left their LI behind for RP reasons because they thought it was the better choice and not because they like the other character better. All about choice!

.. Not really an argument. Just.. adding in my two cents.

Well if thatsthe way  they wantto rp then fine . If  I  havewritten  enough about  what i find fun and Ash if ddnt exsit   I probly wouldnt have bought the game  because I  wasnt intrested in anyone else. I am just tired of  everyone bashing  her . Yes  she is  a video game but still what can i say I am a white knight even  for toons.

The same reason Ihavnt done a Miranda  playthough  with my alt shep on Me 3 All  of ME3's other flaws disregarded I  dont see the point of playing though the whole game for a  a total of a few minutes with  her.

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 26 mars 2013 - 10:54 .

[MACharlie1]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Adoramei wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Another fact  is that the game is designed   to leave  him there if your male  you want ot romance Ash .

Technically, I think the game was designed so you make the choice on who to leave based on your own reasons. If you want to go based on facts of how it was designed, there's voice acting for same-sex romances as well. For ME1 and ME2. So it wasn't just: save Ashley if you're male, then romance her.  The game was designed with choices. My fiance plays MaleShep on his playthroughs and has only saved Ashley once- on the game that he deleted. Every other playthrough, he's chosen for Kaidan to live.

I also know people who have left their LI behind for RP reasons because they thought it was the better choice and not because they like the other character better. All about choice!

.. Not really an argument. Just.. adding in my two cents.

Well if thatsthe way  they wantto rp then fine . If  Ash iddnt exsit   I probly wouldnt have bought the game  because I  wasnt intrested in anyone else.

The same reason Ihavnt done a Miranda  playthough  with my alt shep on Me 3 All  of ME3's other flaws disregarded I  dont see the point of playing though the whole game for a  a total of a few minutes with  her.

Sooo....you bought the game so you could boink a bunch of polygons? 

[NovaBlastMarketing]

MACharlie1 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Adoramei wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Another fact  is that the game is designed   to leave  him there if your male  you want ot romance Ash .

Technically, I think the game was designed so you make the choice on who to leave based on your own reasons. If you want to go based on facts of how it was designed, there's voice acting for same-sex romances as well. For ME1 and ME2. So it wasn't just: save Ashley if you're male, then romance her.  The game was designed with choices. My fiance plays MaleShep on his playthroughs and has only saved Ashley once- on the game that he deleted. Every other playthrough, he's chosen for Kaidan to live.

I also know people who have left their LI behind for RP reasons because they thought it was the better choice and not because they like the other character better. All about choice!

.. Not really an argument. Just.. adding in my two cents.

Well if thatsthe way  they wantto rp then fine . If  Ash iddnt exsit   I probly wouldnt have bought the game  because I  wasnt intrested in anyone else.

The same reason Ihavnt done a Miranda  playthough  with my alt shep on Me 3 All  of ME3's other flaws disregarded I  dont see the point of playing though the whole game for a  a total of a few minutes with  her.

Sooo....you bought the game so you could boink a bunch of polygons? 

 you know you really are imature . are you  so broken   behind your screen you have to  make your self feel better by  picking on others ?  

I think i have been  quite  clear  on what i find fun .would rather  "dating sim" as some call it some  lame as  game  like skyim halo  or cod   .. me3 mp  ....yaawwnn.  

or play on instanity which is a waste of time as well.

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[MACharlie1]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Adoramei wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Another fact  is that the game is designed   to leave  him there if your male  you want ot romance Ash .

Technically, I think the game was designed so you make the choice on who to leave based on your own reasons. If you want to go based on facts of how it was designed, there's voice acting for same-sex romances as well. For ME1 and ME2. So it wasn't just: save Ashley if you're male, then romance her.  The game was designed with choices. My fiance plays MaleShep on his playthroughs and has only saved Ashley once- on the game that he deleted. Every other playthrough, he's chosen for Kaidan to live.

I also know people who have left their LI behind for RP reasons because they thought it was the better choice and not because they like the other character better. All about choice!

.. Not really an argument. Just.. adding in my two cents.

Well if thatsthe way  they wantto rp then fine . If  Ash iddnt exsit   I probly wouldnt have bought the game  because I  wasnt intrested in anyone else.

The same reason Ihavnt done a Miranda  playthough  with my alt shep on Me 3 All  of ME3's other flaws disregarded I  dont see the point of playing though the whole game for a  a total of a few minutes with  her.

Sooo....you bought the game so you could boink a bunch of polygons? 

 you know you really are imature ..I think i have been  quite  clear  on what i find fun .would rather  "dating sim" as some call it some  lame as  game  like skyim halo  or cod   .. me3 mp  ....yaawwnn.  

or play on instanity which is a waste of time as well.

Oh I wasn't judging. I was just making sure you understood what you were saying.

So basically your entire arguement for Williams being more vaulable then Alenko is boiled down to you wanting to tap that ass rather then your previous arguement of her having more combat skills and being more of an asset. They don't have to be mutually exclusive but in this new light, thats kind of what its looking like. 

[NovaBlastMarketing]

MACharlie1 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Adoramei wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

Another fact  is that the game is designed   to leave  him there if your male  you want ot romance Ash .

Technically, I think the game was designed so you make the choice on who to leave based on your own reasons. If you want to go based on facts of how it was designed, there's voice acting for same-sex romances as well. For ME1 and ME2. So it wasn't just: save Ashley if you're male, then romance her.  The game was designed with choices. My fiance plays MaleShep on his playthroughs and has only saved Ashley once- on the game that he deleted. Every other playthrough, he's chosen for Kaidan to live.

I also know people who have left their LI behind for RP reasons because they thought it was the better choice and not because they like the other character better. All about choice!

.. Not really an argument. Just.. adding in my two cents.

Well if thatsthe way  they wantto rp then fine . If  Ash iddnt exsit   I probly wouldnt have bought the game  because I  wasnt intrested in anyone else.

The same reason Ihavnt done a Miranda  playthough  with my alt shep on Me 3 All  of ME3's other flaws disregarded I  dont see the point of playing though the whole game for a  a total of a few minutes with  her.

Sooo....you bought the game so you could boink a bunch of polygons? 

 you know you really are imature ..I think i have been  quite  clear  on what i find fun .would rather  "dating sim" as some call it some  lame as  game  like skyim halo  or cod   .. me3 mp  ....yaawwnn.  

or play on instanity which is a waste of time as well.

Oh I wasn't judging. I was just making sure you understood what you were saying.

So basically your entire arguement for Williams being more vaulable then Alenko is boiled down to you wanting to tap that ass rather then your previous arguement of her having more combat skills and being more of an asset. They don't have to be mutually exclusive but in this new light, thats kind of what its looking like. 

No i also made that  quite  clear  beside that point   i think her skill set and class are simply better. for the reasons stated ealier. the biggest  being if i want a biotic  i would choose Liara over   kaiden becuse she is more powerful and  has more skills and knowlege to help me   complete the mission such as helping me with the cipher

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[Modius Prime]

Umm... you have James and Garrus. Garrus with black widow/Javelin kills most mooks in 1 shot with proper damage passives + he can give squad AP rounds. James, from pax stats, has the highest survivability and he can tech burst incendiary rounds (no need for the nades) with carnage. Kaidan can reave for biotic detonations and chain overload-tech burst, plus he is pretty durable (I have no idea why he has the lowest mortality rate: make him use barrier. Liara, for me, is the first one to die (lowest HP/shields) along with Garrus). I've been facerolling insanity with Garrus-Kaidan since ME1, which I've beaten over 6 times on each game.

Kaidan isn't emotional baggage like Ashley (and is open-minded from BAaT) and he has most of his problems dealt with already. The only way for Ash to redeem her family is by dying on Virmire. Why would you send your staff LT for a gunnery chief who is less experienced? Kaidan can change the suspicion that aliens have against human biotics, while Ashley's primary goal is just for her family's reputation. The amount of fan service she got (okay, Kaidan got jacked. However, its like the same character as Mshep), plus the fact that she is totally opposite from ME1 just makes me want to save her even less.