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"Canon" in a sense that they're being used in trailers and promotional materials. In DAO, it was a warrior (Appropriate for a war-centric storyline), in DA2, it was a mage (Appropriate for a mage-templar comflict). In DAI, do you think they will use a rogue or should they use a rogue? I like the idea of a rogue as a main PC in the next game since I feel like the theme of the third game based on the leaked survey seem to be about investigation and maybe even infiltration. It would seem appropriate if rogue is the "canon" hero. 

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 24 mars 2013 - 10:55 .


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I can`t help but think the stealth bit in Mark of the Assassin, was a prototype for something yet to come too.

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Since it only extends to the promotional material I don't think it matters too much. They'll pick something that looks aesthetically cool -- it's essentially the same as the male/female "default" debate.

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Why shouldn't the canon hero have a rogue cannon instead?

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You mean like how playing as a mage in DA2 didn't make any sense with the story? No, I don't want the same to happen to the rogue.

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It always bothered that a mage Hawke can run around the city, interact with templers and no one ever says maybe you should be in the gallows.

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Would an inquisitor be a rogue? hmm, I suppose it could work and it might make more sense than a mage or warrior as the rogue is more of a hunter than those two.

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DinoSteve wrote...

It always bothered that a mage Hawke can run around the city, interact with templers and no one ever says maybe you should be in the gallows.


I think that's a case of system limitations. Not to mention that in Act 2 they talk about how Hawke is somewhat "above the law" and Act 3 the whole reason you might work for Meredith is to keep your freedom. They all know your a mage it's just for whatever reason they have bigger fish to fry.

As for the OP I wouldn't mind it. I'm kinda hoping it will be so I can round out my "canon" protagonists. Seems a rogue would be best for a  political war any how/

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Does it matter?

I honestly couldn't care less what the trailer or cover character is.

All I care about is that I can fully customize my own character.

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I do like Rogues. I cannot lie.

It does seem like it would be appropriate for the kinda game....we think it may be. I don't really know exactly what we're going be doing. But based on the survey (which could change in many ways) it seems a good fit.

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wait how do you know it was a mage? I thort not being one made more sense :/

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

It always bothered that a mage Hawke can run around the city, interact with templers and no one ever says maybe you should be in the gallows.


I think that's a case of system limitations. Not to mention that in Act 2 they talk about how Hawke is somewhat "above the law" and Act 3 the whole reason you might work for Meredith is to keep your freedom. They all know your a mage it's just for whatever reason they have bigger fish to fry.

As for the OP I wouldn't mind it. I'm kinda hoping it will be so I can round out my "canon" protagonists. Seems a rogue would be best for a  political war any how/

I think it's a case of bad writing.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

It always bothered that a mage Hawke can run around the city, interact with templers and no one ever says maybe you should be in the gallows.


I think that's a case of system limitations. Not to mention that in Act 2 they talk about how Hawke is somewhat "above the law" and Act 3 the whole reason you might work for Meredith is to keep your freedom. They all know your a mage it's just for whatever reason they have bigger fish to fry.

As for the OP I wouldn't mind it. I'm kinda hoping it will be so I can round out my "canon" protagonists. Seems a rogue would be best for a  political war any how/

I think it's a case of bad writing.


What was bad? That they gave us a reason, or that you didn't like it?

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I never saw a reason for there to be a "canon" class. I highly doubt alot of people really go by that guideline to begin with. From what I see, it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference to really consider anyway. I think all classes should be "canon", it's your character after all.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

It always bothered that a mage Hawke can run around the city, interact with templers and no one ever says maybe you should be in the gallows.


I think that's a case of system limitations. Not to mention that in Act 2 they talk about how Hawke is somewhat "above the law" and Act 3 the whole reason you might work for Meredith is to keep your freedom. They all know your a mage it's just for whatever reason they have bigger fish to fry.

As for the OP I wouldn't mind it. I'm kinda hoping it will be so I can round out my "canon" protagonists. Seems a rogue would be best for a  political war any how/

Meredith states in Act 3 that the only reason you're free is because you've proven yourself a protector of the city.
Many NPCs notice and do mention it.
Cullen mentions it a few times as do other templars. It's just because you've become so popular and are practically the savior of the city that you are not hunted by templars.

erilben wrote...

You mean like how playing as a mage in DA2 didn't make any sense with the story? No, I don't want the same to happen to the rogue.


What are you talking about?
It was the other way around. Playing as anything but a mage made the story make less sense. 
Being a mage gave you something to fight for. Otherwise you were just a person arbitrarily picking a side for whatever reason. 

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Enad wrote...

What are you talking about?
It was the other way around. Playing as anything but a mage made the story make less sense. 
Being a mage gave you something to fight for. Otherwise you were just a person arbitrarily picking a side for whatever reason. 


If you play a warrior or rogue, you have a sister that is mage, who is more treated like she is a mage than your PC. She can be taken be taken to the Circle, and then you now actually have a reason to care what happens to the Circle mages.

You could play a mage, but no really notices. You get some of the worst writing in the game with Cullen telling you "mages aren't people like you and me" after he just saw you use magic.

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A mage "making sense" in DA2 is somewhat off-topic in this thread.

As for the OP, I think it would make sense for it to be a rogue, but that's all up to the marketing department's expertise on what sells more. It's not a "canon" character, though. There is no single official "canon" for the games.

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Hawke seemed more like a mage/warrior hybrid to be honest.

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I would like to see a rogue in DAI promotional material. If the game is set in Orlais, I imagine there will be plenty of political intrigue - perfect for a rogue.

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flyermaria wrote...

I would like to see a rogue in DAI promotional material. If the game is set in Orlais, I imagine there will be plenty of political intrigue - perfect for a rogue.


Exactly. I agree. :D

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flyermaria wrote...

I would like to see a rogue in DAI promotional material. If the game is set in Orlais, I imagine there will be plenty of political intrigue - perfect for a rogue.


This, pretty much.

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I would like that. It helps keep the pattern going, and we haven't seen a cinematic trailer for a rouge done yet.

Bring one the SWTOR Trailer level graphics.

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I'd prefer none implied "canon"

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Couldn't they... I don't know... not have the potential PC in advertising? Why not just show NPCs that are part of the game, random plot points and quick action scenes followed up by a big bad or explosion leading to the game title.

IF the game is about the mage Templar war, why not just have the top mage and Templar npcs on the posters, either in the front or off to the side with other scenes and characters throughout in another blood dragon.

But, if they must have a potential PC be the focus in advertising, a thief/Shadow/Bard in Orlais sounds good as it would finish of the trinity class, with warriors seen in the Templars and mages seen in the apostates.... then have the real plot focus revealed at the end of the trailer.

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Enad wrote...

What are you talking about?
It was the other way around. Playing as anything but a mage made the story make less sense. 
Being a mage gave you something to fight for. Otherwise you were just a person arbitrarily picking a side for whatever reason. 


I have to disagree with that, I felt when I played DA2, that as a warrior with a mage sister gave me a unique veiw point, I could see all the atroicites mages were commiting, but I could also see that some were driven to it by Merdith's craziness. TBH I would have preferred a choice for my Hawke to kill, Merdith and Anders before things got out of hand.