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 So far, I haven't heard anything about this. I love both Mass Effect and Dragon Age, but I'm more attached to the former mostly because we've had a trilogy with one protagonist and more or less consistent squad mates until the very end. I believe that this is a very effective way to connect with players. However, I did love my Warden from Origins but I bet I would love him or Hawke like Shepard if they had more than one game.

In other games, we saw this with Ezio in Assassin's Creed II-Revelations. 

So will DA3 be a part of a trilogy where we have one protagonist? Or will he/she just be our hero for one game? If the answer is not known, what do you guys prefer?

I would personally like it more if we had more than one game with a protagonist. :)

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No. Dragon Age is about the world, not any one protagonist.

Every installment will have a different "hero," and it is not a trilogy.

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Definitely needs to be a vast stand alone game.

I love the ME trilogy...but one thing I hate...is the difference in the look between the three games.

DA:I needs to be more like DA:O.

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SKRemaks wrote...

No. Dragon Age is about the world, not any one protagonist.

Every installment will have a different "hero," and it is not a trilogy.


Said it before I could.

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Well, regarding ME trilogy... I thought that ME2 was the best.

DA:I should keep the combat and level up methods from DA2. Plus, the style they employed with Protagonists. Human and voiced. Otherwise, I liked Origins!

I am content with a stand alone title if it is vast like you said. For example, in the first and second Fable video game... protagonists only had one game each. If they are indeed taking a page from Skyrim, marry the open world with BW's characterization... then that's one hell of a game!!

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how many heroes can they spawn in one age?

i like moving on so to speak but i also like dwelling an well sometimes 1 game just isnt long enough, but also with the way the dragon age games are coming an the stories having the same pc across all the games just wouldnt work like it does in mass effect.

If they set it up from the beginning it wouldve worked but now well it wont unless they specifically make say DAI in away that it makes sense for that pc to come back in DA4

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Yeah, I mean of course BioWare could write it either as a stand alone but not impossible for them to make it a story that spans more than one game.

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krul2k wrote...

how many heroes can they spawn in one age?

As many as that age calls for.

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And there can be an infinite amount of heroes.

Most of which no one would ever know about.

I think it would be interesting to play a DA game where the protagonist ends up doing great things yet gets absolutely no recognition for it and ends up settling down quietly on their own or dies with no one to remember them or their deeds.

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Dragon Age have never been said to be part of any kind of trilogy.

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No thanks.

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I'd have no problem with BioWare doing a trilogy of sorts with a single protagonist, but I would honestly prefer if they did it this way:

1. Release the main game, a game with a self-contained story that is resolved by the end.
2. Release an expansion which acts as Part II of the protagonist's story, but is also self-contained and resolved properly at the end.
3. Release a third and final expansion which is Part III.

Make the expansions about the length that Awakening was in comparison to Origins, in other words about half. If it takes away time and resources from the development of smaller, less expensive DLC, so be it. I would prefer to pay more money for a greater amount of content and engaging stories each about 20-25 hours in length versus a bunch of two hour diversions.

Now it's quite possible that at some point Dragon Age's writers might decide to do a trilogy within the series, not of the sort I described above, but a de facto trilogy spanning three separate games. I wouldn't be opposed to this so long as the stories are good and the main character is interesting and likeable enough to carry a trilogy. Equally I would not be too upset if the Mass Effect writers decided that the next few games set in their universe featured unique protagonists in each release.

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Well Final Fantasy isn't a trilogy either, but then "Lightning Returns" happened.

Modifié par Filament, 25 mars 2013 - 07:12 .


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I don't really mind, a self contained Dragon Age trilogy could be good, but I would ask that if they ever considered doing a trilogy is to write an overarching story and follow through with your overarching plot, don't change the overarching plot 2 games into the trilogy.


Filament wrote...

Well Final Fantasy isn't a trilogy either, but then "Lightning Returns" happened.


and man the FFXIII series of games suck.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 25 mars 2013 - 07:19 .


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Trilogy means it stops at three. What will I do with the rest of my life???

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Before they can make a trilogy they'd have to produce a sequel. DA2 wasn't a sequel, it was a different story with a different protagonist. I'm going to hazard a guess that the next game will be like 2.

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If they had any "artistic integrity", they would make one game per setting. But since their corporate masters demand le money, they will keep milking this cashcow for all it's worth, the quality of each new installment diminishing until consumers lose all interest and they have to come up with a new franchise.

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yesikareyes wrote...

 So far, I haven't heard anything about this. I love both Mass Effect and Dragon Age, but I'm more attached to the former mostly because we've had a trilogy with one protagonist and more or less consistent squad mates until the very end. I believe that this is a very effective way to connect with players. However, I did love my Warden from Origins but I bet I would love him or Hawke like Shepard if they had more than one game.

Fair enough.


yesikareyes wrote...

In other games, we saw this with Ezio in Assassin's Creed II-Revelations.

I hate preset characters. 


yesikareyes wrote...


So will DA3 be a part of a trilogy where we have one protagonist? Or will he/she just be our hero for one game? If the answer is not known, what do you guys prefer?

Stand Alone Entry. Why?
1. BioWare sucks when it comes to choice and consequences. None of previous choices matter in the next sequel. I choose the Ultimate Sacrifice option,  BioWare refuse to acknowledge that in Awakening. When I import through Awakening, DA 2 refuse to acknowledge my Orlesian Warden Commander's existence . I choose DR option, BioWare refuse to acknowlege Old God Baby storyline. I choose romance option with Leliana expecting her to fulfill her promise to "stay with you to whatever end, " and BioWare decided to separate her from my Warden. See? Nothing matter.

2. I play for variants. I play for multiple characters and stories. I do not invest in a single character, single story, single path and single ending. I hate roller-coaster experience because I always play things on my own. I do not share my vision, my character and my story with anyone including the developers. DAO and the warden, however, was exceptional, thanks to Brent Knowles.   


yesikareyes wrote...


I would personally like it more if we had more than one game with a protagonist. :)


I would personally like it more, if Bioware can prove themselve capable to bring all those variety choices into the next sequel. Until then, I stick to stand alone entry. 

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Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

I hate preset characters. 

 


You know there is a thing to be said for preset characters, it is easier to give them a more in depth personality and backstory.

But I do enjoy making my own characters, it would be awesome if DA3 had no Hawke like protagonist, because if it does I will not be able to make my own.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 25 mars 2013 - 08:15 .


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SKRemaks wrote...

No. Dragon Age is about the world, not any one protagonist.

Every installment will have a different "hero," and it is not a trilogy.


This.

And in my opinion that is exactly how it should be.

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DinoSteve wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

I hate preset characters. 

 


You know there is a thing to be said for preset characters, it is easier to give them a more in depth personality and backstory.

Oh I agree very much, but that's not what I'm interested in a RPG. I'm not looking for behind the scene experience and watch those depth personality and background being played out. I'm looking for my own personal acting in fictional world. I want to pretend to be someone else who I can never be in real life. I'm so sick and tired of two goody shoe character who act all nice and well. Sadly, 99% preset characters do not coincide with my imagination and my intented character personality, no matter how depth their personality and backstory. As a result, roleplaying a preset character feel more like a roller-coaster experience. No creativity. No imagination. It bore me to death, I never complete any RPGs based on preset characters.    


DinoSteve wrote...

But I do enjoy making my own characters, it would be awesome if DA3 had no Hawke like protagonist, because if it does I will not be able to make my own.

Yup, I doubt we ever make our character again. Not with current BioWare's direction. Preset characters is the only proper way for them to tell a story.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 25 mars 2013 - 08:37 .


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DinoSteve wrote...

Filament wrote...

Well Final Fantasy isn't a trilogy either, but then "Lightning Returns" happened.


and man the FFXIII series of games suck.


If they make FF XIII-13 I'll buy the console it is on and the game just for the novelty value.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 25 mars 2013 - 08:39 .


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I would have preferred some continuity of PC as its hard to get to invested or care what happens to the PC, As they are around for one game only and then 'disappear'.Especially in the case of DA2 where that PCs story has being left in a less than satisfying manner.

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I prefer the changing protagonists of the DA-series over the set protagonist in ME.

1. It's not just one person doing all the heroic stuff and becoming Space Jesus but various people - less annoying super-hero-protag and more realism imo
2. You have more variety in terms of setting and companions if location and main character changes completely
3. You can change the way you roleplay your PC between the games. I found myself bored by playing the same style of character throughout three games when I played them directly after each other.

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krul2k wrote...

how many heroes can they spawn in one age?


well seeing as Hawke was more or less just Kirkwalls errand boy we still only have one hero this age...