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[Bob Garbage]

Lets just say ME3 only sold the initial 3.5 million copies it shipped, I'm actually unsure of the total sales by now so we'll go with that. That would mean 630 000 people played as FemShep. Which considering this only takes into account people's first play through (i believe anyway) those are really decent numbers. 18% of something that is in the millions is A LOT.

[Bleachrude]

LookingGlass93 wrote...

One thing confuses me about the infograpic. Liara has a 54% survival rate. I was under the impression that the only way for her to die is if she's your companion in the endgame and you have low ems (flattened by a Mako). Does that mean that 46% of people who make it to the ending do so with low ems, and so 46% of people get either the low ems Destroy or low ems Control ending? Bizarre if true.

The survival rate makes no sense....best I can think of is that it represents how often each character survives combat...

Yeah, it means people suck with kaidan, but that's the only thing I can think of...

It cant be anything else since Vega, Garrus and  Liara can't actually DIE in ME3 unless you have a low EMS.

It can't be tracking information from ME2 since Vega wasn't there so Vega and Liara SHOULD have the same score if the "survival" rate was based on whether or not they survived the game....

[AlanC9]

Bleachrude wrote...


It cant be anything else since Vega, Garrus and  Liara can't actually DIE in ME3 unless you have a low EMS.

Maybe lots of players blew off the scanning and the Citadel sidequests?

[Fawx9]

AlanC9 wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...


It cant be anything else since Vega, Garrus and  Liara can't actually DIE in ME3 unless you have a low EMS.

Maybe lots of players blew off the scanning and the Citadel sidequests?

Probaby, especially when you consider how many non imports there were. It would be a lot tougher for those to clear the EMS benchmarks without doing some scanning.

[Bob Garbage]

Obviously the majority of casual players do not play the game "as well" as the majority of BSN. There are a lot of variables in ME that we, the core fanbase, are quite used to. But I'm not sure your average person would even notice half the things available to them. I've lent ME3 to a couple friends and both of them picked soldier and missed half the sidequests and didn't even realize they existed. Most people are used to games unfolding in front of their eyes and not having involvement in the process outside of spamming body shots and ramboing until the next cut scene.

[George Costanza]

Bleachrude wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...

One thing confuses me about the infograpic. Liara has a 54% survival rate. I was under the impression that the only way for her to die is if she's your companion in the endgame and you have low ems (flattened by a Mako). Does that mean that 46% of people who make it to the ending do so with low ems, and so 46% of people get either the low ems Destroy or low ems Control ending? Bizarre if true.

The survival rate makes no sense....best I can think of is that it represents how often each character survives combat...

Yeah, it means people suck with kaidan, but that's the only thing I can think of...

It cant be anything else since Vega, Garrus and  Liara can't actually DIE in ME3 unless you have a low EMS.

It can't be tracking information from ME2 since Vega wasn't there so Vega and Liara SHOULD have the same score if the "survival" rate was based on whether or not they survived the game....

No, they wouldn't necessarily be the same. The only characters that die in the final run are the ones you're with, so if you didn't pick Vega for the mission but you did pick Liara, despite your low EMS, he'd live and she'd die.

Modifié par George Costanza, 25 mars 2013 - 04:15 .

[Bob Garbage]

That is why the series took the direction it did in terms of auto-dialogue and ultimately becoming a little simpler in it's approach..........there's no money in selling a game to just gamers.

[Asch Lavigne]

I would have liked to have seen a "squadmate usage" graph and an LI one.

[avenging_teabag]

Steelcan wrote...

I seriously wonder what the percentages of people who saved the quarians/geth would be if saving the quarians was the paragon option.

Despite playing as a pretty hardcore renegade, I did manage to broker peace. If that was not possible, I would certainly go with the Quarians. Sorry, but I'm not sacrificing an entire, actual species to prolong a continous existence of a production line. Just not happening. Sorry, Legion.

[Arkevilex]

Nice to be in the 4% who finished on Insanity

[erilben]

George Costanza wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...

One thing confuses me about the infograpic. Liara has a 54% survival rate. I was under the impression that the only way for her to die is if she's your companion in the endgame and you have low ems (flattened by a Mako). Does that mean that 46% of people who make it to the ending do so with low ems, and so 46% of people get either the low ems Destroy or low ems Control ending? Bizarre if true.

The survival rate makes no sense....best I can think of is that it represents how often each character survives combat...

Yeah, it means people suck with kaidan, but that's the only thing I can think of...

It cant be anything else since Vega, Garrus and  Liara can't actually DIE in ME3 unless you have a low EMS.

It can't be tracking information from ME2 since Vega wasn't there so Vega and Liara SHOULD have the same score if the "survival" rate was based on whether or not they survived the game....

No, they wouldn't necessarily be the same. The only characters that die in the final run are the ones you're with, so if you didn't pick Vega for the mission but you did pick Liara, despite your low EMS, he'd live and she'd die.

On very low EMS destroy everyone ends up dead when the Normandy crashes on that unnamed planet though.

[AlanC9]

Fawx9 wrote...
Probaby, especially when you consider how many non imports there were. It would be a lot tougher for those to clear the EMS benchmarks without doing some scanning.

I should break out my old EMS spreadsheet. Anyone know what EMS gets squadmates killed?

Note that low-EMS runs get Destroy if you didn't import. Maybe Liara dies because everyone has her in the party, and EDI dies because it's Destroy?

[AlanC9]

erilben wrote...

On very low EMS destroy everyone ends up dead when the Normandy crashes on that unnamed planet though.

Heh. Good point, but I'm betting they didn't count that.

[George Costanza]

erilben wrote...

George Costanza wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...

One thing confuses me about the infograpic. Liara has a 54% survival rate. I was under the impression that the only way for her to die is if she's your companion in the endgame and you have low ems (flattened by a Mako). Does that mean that 46% of people who make it to the ending do so with low ems, and so 46% of people get either the low ems Destroy or low ems Control ending? Bizarre if true.

The survival rate makes no sense....best I can think of is that it represents how often each character survives combat...

Yeah, it means people suck with kaidan, but that's the only thing I can think of...

It cant be anything else since Vega, Garrus and  Liara can't actually DIE in ME3 unless you have a low EMS.

It can't be tracking information from ME2 since Vega wasn't there so Vega and Liara SHOULD have the same score if the "survival" rate was based on whether or not they survived the game....

No, they wouldn't necessarily be the same. The only characters that die in the final run are the ones you're with, so if you didn't pick Vega for the mission but you did pick Liara, despite your low EMS, he'd live and she'd die.

On very low EMS destroy everyone ends up dead when the Normandy crashes on that unnamed planet though.

Well, you see the ship crash on the planet. But there's nothing to suggest that everyone died.

[erilben]

George Costanza wrote...

erilben wrote...

George Costanza wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...

One thing confuses me about the infograpic. Liara has a 54% survival rate. I was under the impression that the only way for her to die is if she's your companion in the endgame and you have low ems (flattened by a Mako). Does that mean that 46% of people who make it to the ending do so with low ems, and so 46% of people get either the low ems Destroy or low ems Control ending? Bizarre if true.

The survival rate makes no sense....best I can think of is that it represents how often each character survives combat...

Yeah, it means people suck with kaidan, but that's the only thing I can think of...

It cant be anything else since Vega, Garrus and  Liara can't actually DIE in ME3 unless you have a low EMS.

It can't be tracking information from ME2 since Vega wasn't there so Vega and Liara SHOULD have the same score if the "survival" rate was based on whether or not they survived the game....

No, they wouldn't necessarily be the same. The only characters that die in the final run are the ones you're with, so if you didn't pick Vega for the mission but you did pick Liara, despite your low EMS, he'd live and she'd die.

On very low EMS destroy everyone ends up dead when the Normandy crashes on that unnamed planet though.

Well, you see the ship crash on the planet. But there's nothing to suggest that everyone died.

No one is shown coming out of the Normandy, and you don't get that cutscene where someone puts Shepard name plate up.

Anyway I don't think Bioware would track that. And now I remember low EMS control does not kill the Normandy crew. If you saved the Collector base and EMS is low, the only ending option is control. Squad mates may die on the beam run, but they won't ever die on the Normandy.

Modifié par erilben, 25 mars 2013 - 04:47 .

[Eterna]

Who cares?

[avenging_teabag]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

I know a lot of people who when they started ME1 just clicked "quick start male" without even looking at all the options. I imagine lots of new players did that too, especially since 3 was marketed to the meatheaded shooter fan boys.

Your derision of an entire player base which clearly, unambigiously and consistently favors male hero is noted and ignored.

Actually scratch that, not ignored. I'm gonna say that: it's mostly people like you who turned me off playing femShep for good. Imagine that: I bought the 1st game, rolled a female character (as I always do, since I'm female), started playing... but something didn't seat well with me. I don't even remember now what it was, exactly, I'm sure something insignificant, like her frightening eyelashes or the duck mouth. I don't know. I decided to try a guy, and whoa! it went much better.

So, without giving much more thought to it, I finished the game, and immediately went online to talk about how awesome my experience was. What greeted me, immediately, was the statement that, apparently, I played the game wrong, I was a "d-bag dudebro", soulless and without imagination, who just likes to pew-pew things and is too dumb to understand the soul-shattering revelations that led to a romp with Garrus. That was my first impression of the femShep cult, and that impression was only confirmed later on. Sure enough, there were many players that just prefer femshep, and good for them, but the attitude of her hardcore fan brigade was so repugnant, that I pretty much gave up on playing the character ever again.

Can you say that I have a bit of an issue with this? Yes, I suppose you can, but in almost 20 years of gaming, no fanbase has ever managed to put me off even considering playing a game as a character of my own gender. Well,
there is comfort in the fact that that cult isn't growing despite all the publicity they we caterwauling for. After all, the two games in the series worth a damn have the proper Shepard on their cover, and the franchise went to the dogs under the sh*tty femShep banner. Seems kinda fitting.

Modifié par avenging_teabag, 25 mars 2013 - 04:53 .

[Captain Crash]

All that stat tells me is that 82% of people played the game wrong

[avenging_teabag]

Captain Crash wrote...

All that stat tells me is that 82% of people played the game wrong

Look, another one.

[happy_daiz]

So we need yet another thread about this?

There was already one out there.
http://social.biowar...ndex/16383238/1

[Addictress]

they must have screwed up their samples. they must have.

[Captain Crash]

avenging_teabag wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

All that stat tells me is that 82% of people played the game wrong

Look, another one.

You create a thread clearly trying to stir a reaction based on flawed logic (because 1 in 5 people clearly isnt a number to market and allocate resources to?! :innocent: ) and then you get grumpy when people joke off your daft thread.


Give yourself a pat on the back bud.

[avenging_teabag]

Captain Crash wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

All that stat tells me is that 82% of people played the game wrong

Look, another one.

You create a thread clearly trying to stir a reaction based on flawed logic (because 1 in 5 people clearly isnt a number to market and allocate resources to?! :innocent: ) and then you get grumpy when people joke off your daft thread.


Give yourself a pat on the back bud.

Lolwut? Where did I say that?

[Captain Crash]

Yeah sorry, there is another thread about resources which made me head-desk which was clearly still on my mind when I writing the above.

Still, I really doubt it was a failure.  I think you would be very cynical to take away no positives.  I fact there are many positives to take from it.  The fact the figure has stayed the same is actually a good thing since ME3 sold far more copies (from what I been informed)  therefore the number of players has increased.  This is where percentages don't tell the full story.

[Ridwan]

Arkevilight wrote...

Nice to be in the 4% who finished on Insanity

The 4% club! Someone should make it.