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[kumquats]

I played both, but I nearly wouldn't have played femShep, since creating a Shepard with that character creator, is a pain in the ass.
Can't blame anyone, for not playing femShep. BW should make sure, they have two default faces, not every player wants to spend 20 hours, figuring out, which face they like.

On the other hand *looks at femShep default face*.... nvm.

I mean, I love to play Sims3, but even for my Sims, I download faces or use the defaults given in the game. I hate character creator. <.<

[Kel Riever]

I don't think BioWare looks at it as wasted resources. As pointed out, if you want to misuse stats, just make one class, one gender, and in fact, one face for the rest of your series. What is disappointing, though, is the amount of work put into options like gender, squadmates and classes, and the tendency for people to just go generic anyway.

Blame boring people. Not BioWare on this one.

[pawswithclaws]

Yeah, sure, but while we're at it, why bother wasting resources on more than one class? And geez, you don't really need all that many squadmates, do you? We have the token blue alien love-interest chick along with the other alien dude, that ought to be enough. Clearly.

1/5 players is hardly a waste of time (or resources), that's a goddamn investment.

Modifié par pawswithclaws, 25 mars 2013 - 02:34 .

[Bleachrude]

Kel Riever wrote...

I don't think BioWare looks at it as wasted resources. As pointed out, if you want to misuse stats, just make one class, one gender, and in fact, one face for the rest of your series. What is disappointing, though, is the amount of work put into options like gender, squadmates and classes, and the tendency for people to just go generic anyway.

Blame boring people. Not BioWare on this one.

I dont think 12% is really high though...that means out of 100 people playing the game, only 12 of them skip the character creator and as the poster above you mentioned, some of those people coule be invested in the story/universe but just hate having to use a character creator...

[Exile Isan]

I'll just point out that if I hadn't been able to play as a female character I probably wouldn't have wanted to play Mass Effect, or wouldn't have enjoyed half as much as I did.  Which probably means I also wouldn't have my Xbox 360, I wouldn't have bought the DLC for it, ME2 or ME3 and all their DLC. Now how much money would that have lost Bioware? I own Balder's Gate, Balder's Gate II, Neverwinter Nights, Shadows of Undrentide, Hordes of the Underdark, Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age II, and Mass Effect 3. And chances are I wouldn't have bought any of them if I couldn't play as a female character.

I think part of the problem might have been marketing. Bioware started too late in marketing FemShep. If they had marketed FemShep way back in 2007, along with BroShep, I wonder if those stat would have been any different.

And if they had had a decent looking Default Femshep in ME3 it probably would have helped, too.

Modifié par Exile Isan, 25 mars 2013 - 02:43 .

[nani7788]

18% is quite disappointing. Especially since Jennifer Hale did such an amazing job. It always felt more like a movie to me when playing as female Shepard. Just... really well done. I'm just glad they gave us that option.

[Village_Idiot]

I wouldn't call 18% of players a waste of resources. Quite the opposite in fact.

In any case, stats are utterly misleading. I would assume the percentages are for a person's first playthrough of ME3: what if they (like yours truly) subsequently did a playthrough of the opposite gender? How then are their statistics interpreted?

Assuming this statistic is indeed "18% of players did their first playthrough with Femshep", then it certainly doesn't mean "Only 18% of players have ever played Femshep".

Modifié par Shadrach 88, 25 mars 2013 - 02:48 .

[Arkevilex]

Those stats are based off of the cloud save data and there are a lot of people who don't use cloud save. The stats may not be totally accurate, however, it is expected as a majority of gamers are male.

As a female, I totally disagree with femshep being a waste of resources. I would never have played mass effect if female wasn't an available option for this particular game. I know plenty of other fellow female gamers who admit to the same train of thought.

Mass Effect is about choice. And thanks to Bioware, us female gamers were given the chance to play a character whom we can really relate to and look up to as females.

[CaIIisto]

Well if we're basing all of this on %s;



Making the final missions/quests in ME1, ME3, DAO and DA2 was equally pointless, as over half of the playing population never completed them.

Equally, I guess it's time to drop the Sentinel, Engineer and Adept classes too. 

Plus they should have auto-dialogued people NOT shooting Mordin, and CURING the Genophage. The choices were aparently a waste of resources.

Modifié par Bester76, 25 mars 2013 - 02:49 .

[Exile Isan]

Arkevilight wrote...

Those stats are based off of the cloud save data and there are a lot of people who don't use cloud save.

If this is true, then I am not part of those stats as I don't use cloud save. So add one more person who plays FemShep.

And this isn't to anyone in particular, but the reason you will find more FemShep players here on BSN is because we're actually welcome here as opposed to some other gaming forums.

Modifié par Exile Isan, 25 mars 2013 - 02:48 .

[Arkevilex]

Exile Isan wrote...

Arkevilight wrote...

Those stats are based off of the cloud save data and there are a lot of people who don't use cloud save.

If this is true, then I am not part of those stats as I don't use cloud save. So add one more person who plays FemShep.

And this isn't to anyone in particular, but the reason you will find more FemShep players here on BSN is because we're actually welcome here as opposed to some other gaming forums.

Pretty sure since there is really no other way to tell otherwise

[ZombifiedJake]

It was an ambitious move to have both genders, but it would have paid off more to have a fully fleshed out single Shepard.

[Village_Idiot]

Bester76 wrote...

Making the final missions/quests in ME1, ME3, DAO and DA2 was equally pointless, as over half of the playing population never completed them.

Clearly giving all the games endings was a waste of resources. I demand that the next game devotes these assets to an expansion of Diana Allers' character. 

[Steelcan]

ZombifiedJake wrote...

It was an ambitious move to have both genders, but it would have paid off more to have a fully fleshed out single Shepard.

. Hell no.  I want to be in control of who Shepard is.

[Asch Lavigne]

I am proudly part of that 18%!

If there had only been Meer's Shepard to play I would never have finished the first ME, I couldn't make it an hour with his robotic , non-emotional acting.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 25 mars 2013 - 02:53 .

[Auld Wulf]

Oh dear. I think some need to learn that a minority that shouldn't be catered to is around 1%. Yes, 18% is definitely a minority, but it's a substantial enough minority that if you discard those people, you're losing a substantial chunk of profit.

At some point you have to accept BioWare including options to appeal to different demographics and groups of people. So long as those options aren't forced on anyone, then I don't see a problem. I mean, the vast majority chose either the geth side or peace in the geth/quarian war, that doesn't mean I think that the option for saving the quarians only should be removed.

I may disagree with things, but I don't want BioWare to be unsuccessful. I find Destroy repugnant, but I can understand why they put it there. It's how some people get their end away. Whatever floats their boat. But hey, it's more money for BioWare, so that they can make more games.

So... no beef here.

Edit: I see I missed an important "don't"

Modifié par Auld Wulf, 25 mars 2013 - 02:54 .

[Apple Lantern]

It's nice having the ability to choose her, regardless of how little she gets chosen. Those stats are ME3 only, right? A big part of this crowd were probably shooter guys that just defaulted to start quickly.

[erilben]

Arkevilight wrote...

Those stats are based off of the cloud save data and there are a lot of people who don't use cloud save. The stats may not be totally accurate, however, it is expected as a majority of gamers are male.

 
ME2 and ME3 uploads data to Bioware about how you played the games. It's on by default. You have to go into options to turn it off.

It was only ME1 that didn't do this, so the only data Bioware has on this is from Xbox 360 achievements.

[Village_Idiot]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Oh dear. I think some need to learn that a minority that shouldn't be catered to is around 1%. Yes, 18% is definitely a minority, but it's a substantial enough minority that if you discard those people, you're losing a substantial chunk of profit.

This. And as I've said previously, this statistic doesn't cover players who have played both characters. There's no overlap.

[Exile Isan]

ZombifiedJake wrote...

It was an ambitious move to have both genders, but it would have paid off more to have a fully fleshed out single Shepard.

All of Bioware's RPGs have had both genders, so why was Mass Effect more ambitious than any of those others?

[Sovereign24]

nani7788 wrote...

18% is quite disappointing. Especially since Jennifer Hale did such an amazing job. It always felt more like a movie to me when playing as female Shepard. Just... really well done. I'm just glad they gave us that option.

Agreed. Actually think that femshep voice > broshep voice.

Would have probably been better to give Hale one of the more popular female squad mates to voice. At least that way more than 18% would have heard how amazing she is. 

[Steelcan]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Oh dear. I think some need to learn that a minority that shouldn't be catered to is around 1%. Yes, 18% is definitely a minority, but it's a substantial enough minority that if you discard those people, you're losing a substantial chunk of profit.

At some point you have to accept BioWare including options to appeal to different demographics and groups of people. So long as those options aren't forced on anyone, then I don't see a problem. I mean, the vast majority chose either the geth side or peace in the geth/quarian war, that doesn't mean I think that the option for saving the quarians only should be removed.

I may disagree with things, but I want BioWare to be unsuccessful. I find Destroy repugnant, but I can understand why they put it there. It's how some people get their end away. Whatever floats their boat. But hey, it's more money for BioWare, so that they can make more games.

So... no beef here.

. Despite your repulsive attitude and beliefs.  I'm going to have to agree with you on this.

P.S.  A vast majority has to be VAST.  Like 90% or higher.

[Wayning_Star]

I've always thought of the LI thing a bit prudish, considering the timeframe. Relationship in the vast future would (probably) be totally different than here on Old Earth. Namely taboos and singularities.

I doubt seriously there would be a 'family' structured reality, no matter how hard we try to establish them in/on any given future. Too much room and with alien life forms to complicate, it'd be radically different there.

just say'n

[Sirzechs_Krios]

i play mostly as a femshep but at times i dont comeplete the game i stop at cronos station then go back to ME1 so those stats arent accurate for every ME players

[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

Honestly I'm indifferent. I could care less if I'm playing as a male or a female. As long as I have a good memorable time with a game. However, the option to play either is nice, but it doesn't effect me. I've been gaming my whole life and I don't care about diminutive things like what gender the character is.

Just enjoy the story and gameplay and move on.