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[CroGamer002]

I swear I've seen this thread before with exact title back in 2011.

[Shadow Shep]

redBadger14 wrote...

Might want to change the title a bit, OP, it doesn't reflect your post very well.

You disagree with the notion that FemShep was a waste of resources (and I agree), but your thread title comes across as claiming FemShep was a waste of resources. That's where you should consider the change.

I think most of us picked up on the sarcasm in the title, and were just responding to what OP is talking about.

[Thrazesul]

Considering how ME3 treated femshep I am not surprised at those numbers.

[themikefest]

I always play as femshep. I enjoy Jennifer Hale's voice. I have to say thanks to Bioware for having the option to play as femshep.
Those numbers don't mean a f**king thing to me.

[thebigbad1013]

I have both male and female Shepard's so it wasn't a waste of resources to me.

Also, those who haven't played a FemShep are really missing out on some great performances by Jennifer Hale.

[Cutlass Jack]

Based on the number of people I heard over the last year squeeing over hearing 'Femshep's' voice in SWTOR, (on the Female Trooper) I'd suggest it was an excellent use of resources.

And had they not 'wasted' resources on a Shepard that was customizable, I doubt I would have played the original game more than once, and probably would have skipped the sequels.

[Steelcan]

Genshie wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Sovereign24 wrote...

Hating on Hale's voice acting is like hating on kittens. You're just wrong and you should feel bad.

.   Can't stand her as Commander Shepard.  Just doesn't work with me.

May I ask why?

. Can't really put my finger on why.  I just do not like it.  Maybe it's an inborn subconscious sexism on my part:mellow:


or maybe it's just the way she talks.

[cerberus1701]

Nykara wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Johnnie Walker wrote...

Honestly I'm indifferent. I could care less if I'm playing as a male or a female. As long as I have a good memorable time with a game. However, the option to play either is nice, but it doesn't effect me. I've been gaming my whole life and I don't care about diminutive things like what gender the character is.

Just enjoy the story and gameplay and move on.

Except that I can't enjoy the story with Mark Meer....so there's that.

. And I can't enjoy it with Hale's VA.

Good for you. Not being snarky. I wish I could but he just sounds bored to tears.

Quite glad to have the Hale option.

I do have to say though, even though I have completely enjoyed Hale's voice acting all the way through. Going back and playing ME2 now after just having played ME3 something seems lacking there. There is so much passion in the voice acting in ME3 for her that isn't there in ME2.

I don't disagree. She did kind od oddly flatten out her delivery at a lot of points. I just chalked it up to her having just been resurrected.

[Nykara]

bigbad1013 wrote...

I have both male and female Shepard's so it wasn't a waste of resources to me.

Also, those who haven't played a FemShep are really missing out on some great performances by Jennifer Hale.

I guess the same could be said for the other way around. I haven't played ManShep at all. I don't doubt for a second that Meer puts in a good performance as well I just can't get in to RPing a male character.

[redBadger14]

Genshie wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Sovereign24 wrote...

Hating on Hale's voice acting is like hating on kittens. You're just wrong and you should feel bad.

.   Can't stand her as Commander Shepard.  Just doesn't work with me.

May I ask why?

People have preferences, nothing wrong with that.

I for one can't stand Hale as Shepard. Tried it but I just prefer Meer's voice. This doesn't make Hale a bad voice actor, in fact, I love Jennifer Hale and a lot of the work she has done. 

And trying to view it from a neutral standpoint for just a second, the fact that Meer vs. Hale comes down to purely preference would indicate neither one did a fantastic job as Shepard, but they were good enough, hence the choice.

[nos_astra]

Auld Wulf wrote...
Oh dear. I think some need to learn that a minority that shouldn't[/i] be catered to is around 1%. Yes, 18% is definitely a minority, but it's a substantial enough minority that if you discard those people, you're losing a substantial chunk of profit.

For once I can agree with you. 18% is not bad. 

I'm a little surprised how little love there is for Tali, Ashley and Kaidan. I knew the VS were unpopular due to their suspicions and the stand-off. I saw someone quote a statement from Patrick Weekes how Tali almost didn't make it into the ME3 squad. I wonder why the VS were included at all. You probably can't include one without the other which would explain why Kaidan (wow, 1,5% is lower than I would have expected) was still there. Or maybe there is context.

And what the hell does survival rate mean?.

[Nykara]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Nykara wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Johnnie Walker wrote...

Honestly I'm indifferent. I could care less if I'm playing as a male or a female. As long as I have a good memorable time with a game. However, the option to play either is nice, but it doesn't effect me. I've been gaming my whole life and I don't care about diminutive things like what gender the character is.

Just enjoy the story and gameplay and move on.

Except that I can't enjoy the story with Mark Meer....so there's that.

. And I can't enjoy it with Hale's VA.

Good for you. Not being snarky. I wish I could but he just sounds bored to tears.

Quite glad to have the Hale option.

I do have to say though, even though I have completely enjoyed Hale's voice acting all the way through. Going back and playing ME2 now after just having played ME3 something seems lacking there. There is so much passion in the voice acting in ME3 for her that isn't there in ME2.

I don't disagree. She did kind od oddly flatten out her delivery at a lot of points. I just chalked it up to her having just been resurrected.

lol yeah oddly enough thats how I've been viewing it as well. There's a huge difference though really in her delivery in ME2 then ME3.. ME3 she has it nailed perfectly.

[Urazz]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

So with the recently released infographic (Can't link from my phone, sorry) detailing that 18% of people played as FemShep, there's been talk of FemShep being a waste of Bioware's resources/time.

I disagree, I admit I have two FemShep characters and only played both to Sanctum. But I am thankful to Bioware for including the option to play as FemShep. It was a different experience and she was pretty kick***. So hopefully the next ME installment will include gender option for main character, or possibly even more otions (playable Asar, Salarianc, etc. or something). Good job Bioware.

Sorry for any bad English.

Is that full playthroughs or partial because even though most of my playthroughs are as male Shepard, I do have one or two as female Shepard.

[ManOfSteel]

Asari Legend wrote...

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Insecure much? 

[Genshie]

redBadger14 wrote...

Genshie wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Sovereign24 wrote...

Hating on Hale's voice acting is like hating on kittens. You're just wrong and you should feel bad.

.   Can't stand her as Commander Shepard.  Just doesn't work with me.

May I ask why?

People have preferences, nothing wrong with that.

I for one can't stand Hale as Shepard. Tried it but I just prefer Meer's voice. This doesn't make Hale a bad voice actor, in fact, I love Jennifer Hale and a lot of the work she has done. 

And trying to view it from a neutral standpoint for just a second, the fact that Meer vs. Hale comes down to purely preference would indicate neither one did a fantastic job as Shepard, but they were good enough, hence the choice.

 First wasn't solely directed at anyone else besides OP and second way to go on assuming that I said there was anything wrong. I was just curious why the OP didn't like Hale and wanted to know why in particular. Wasn't implying anything or saying anything else otherwise. (This is one reason why I hate text since it can get misunderstood so easily. Also thank you for explaining why you like or dislike one or the other either way.)

Modifié par Genshie, 25 mars 2013 - 03:24 .

[Asch Lavigne]

Maybe FemShep's new horrible in game face was taken into account by players. They were like "hey, hot female on the promotional stuff all right, but in game... blech!"

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 25 mars 2013 - 03:24 .

[Kaos_Scorpio]

Femshep was viewed as a choice method, they gave us the option we just chose not to use it.

[Aaleel]

I play both genders and it has added greatly to the replay value of all the games. Each has their moments and dialogue that I like and those I find lackluster. But I have to say Hale's renegade defense of Tali at her trial was the single best piece of dialogue either one of them ever uttered in all three games.

As far as was it worth it. The recurring female buyers who have played all three games that probably wouldn't have if no femshep was offered I'm sure made it worthwhile.

[ManOfSteel]

klarabella wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...
Oh dear. I think some need to learn that a minority that shouldn't[/i] be catered to is around 1%. Yes, 18% is definitely a minority, but it's a substantial enough minority that if you discard those people, you're losing a substantial chunk of profit.

For once I can agree with you. 18% is not bad. 

I'm a little surprised how little love there is for Tali, Ashley and Kaidan. I knew the VS were unpopular due to their suspicions and the stand-off. I saw someone quote a statement from Patrick Weekes how Tali almost didn't make it into the ME3 squad. I wonder why the VS were included at all. You probably can't include one without the other which would explain why Kaidan (wow, 1,5% is lower than I would have expected) was still there. Or maybe there is context.

I believe it's squadmates in order of use. I imagine the VS and Tali are so low because you don't get access to them until over half way through the game.

[Aaleel]

klarabella wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...
Oh dear. I think some need to learn that a minority that shouldn't[/i] be catered to is around 1%. Yes, 18% is definitely a minority, but it's a substantial enough minority that if you discard those people, you're losing a substantial chunk of profit.

For once I can agree with you. 18% is not bad. 

I'm a little surprised how little love there is for Tali, Ashley and Kaidan. I knew the VS were unpopular due to their suspicions and the stand-off. I saw someone quote a statement from Patrick Weekes how Tali almost didn't make it into the ME3 squad. I wonder why the VS were included at all. You probably can't include one without the other which would explain why Kaidan (wow, 1,5% is lower than I would have expected) was still there. Or maybe there is context.

And what the hell does survival rate mean?.

I'm sure so me of it has to do with how late you get them in the game.  Much more opportunity to use the others.

[Bob Garbage]

It is not a waste of resources. Quit sucking at math.

[Little Princess Peach]

Robhuzz wrote...

The great majority of the gaming audience is male. How does this surprise anyone?

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let me correct you, when I went to the dragon age event Thedas uk, mostly females that were presant, you would be suprised how many female gamers there are out there, more and more of the female gender are being involed in the game'n community.

Modifié par Tali-vas-normandy, 25 mars 2013 - 03:30 .

[IllusiveManJr]

Thrazesul wrote...

Considering how ME3 treated femshep I am not surprised at those numbers.

Are you talking about the Jacob romance?

[Genshie]

DoomHK wrote...

klarabella wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...
Oh dear. I think some need to learn that a minority that shouldn't[/i] be catered to is around 1%. Yes, 18% is definitely a minority, but it's a substantial enough minority that if you discard those people, you're losing a substantial chunk of profit.

For once I can agree with you. 18% is not bad. 

I'm a little surprised how little love there is for Tali, Ashley and Kaidan. I knew the VS were unpopular due to their suspicions and the stand-off. I saw someone quote a statement from Patrick Weekes how Tali almost didn't make it into the ME3 squad. I wonder why the VS were included at all. You probably can't include one without the other which would explain why Kaidan (wow, 1,5% is lower than I would have expected) was still there. Or maybe there is context.

I believe it's squadmates in order of use. I imagine the VS and Tali are so low because you don't get access to them until over half way through the game.

If that is true (which I believe it is since it sounds like the best cause behind it) then that is a really bad way of getting statistics for the characters since it is not balanced for all of them due ot the restrictions and time settings.

[Exile Isan]

IllusiveManJr wrote...
Are you talking about the Jacob romance?

Thane.