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I will NOT be pre-ordering DA:I


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To be fair i'm in the minority as it's part of my job to keep up with these things, but also, I usually only do this for games that I'm pretty sure i'll love. Last few were, Farcry 3, X-Com, Dishonored, D3, SimCity (only one that didnt have a pre-load wtf.) And tonight, BIOSHOCK!@#!%#

Mabye i'm just easy to please hehe.


Oh snap, is Bioshock tonight?!
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*finger hovers over pre-order button*
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Hurgh... unggg... must.. not.. do it....

LinksOcarina wrote...

but lets think about it. Dragon Age II
had at best, 20 months of development, Origins had over 44 months
because it was in limbo for a year or so.

If we were going to put
merits into time to determine something as ready, what would be
acceptable? You talked about the bugs in SimCity, whats a good amount of
time to make sure that doesn't happen in Inquisition, by your
estimation?


I would say, totally honestly, not less than 1 day but not more than 10 years. :whistle:

Dude, I'm not setting time limits for them.  I'm just asking that "[they] do their best to maintain an internal standard that they would and should be proud of."  I'm an outsider looking in.  It's impossible for me to say how long it should take, or what ready or not looks like.  I'll be able to tell you once the game is released though.  Maybe if I offer to do a review they'll send me a free copy and then it's a moot point! :bandit:

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I will if the pre-order bonus is good.

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bclagge wrote...
You may be right!  But, the thing about doing something is that you will never succeed if you don't try! :wizard:


Yeah, but the saying, "Choose your battles," applies too.  I'm not going to fight this one.  I'd rather sit on the sidelines and try winning the ones that really matter to me.  The gaming industry could become putrid and I could get on just fine.  I'd miss a few things about it, but I could find something else to entertain in my off hours.

But if you have the time and energy for this, keep making threads and writing the devs and boycotting the games.  I'm not mocking you either.  Seriously, if it makes you happy to fight, then fight.

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Hanz54321 wrote...

bclagge wrote...
You may be right!  But, the thing about doing something is that you will never succeed if you don't try! :wizard:


Yeah, but the saying, "Choose your battles," applies too.  I'm not going to fight this one.  I'd rather sit on the sidelines and try winning the ones that really matter to me.  The gaming industry could become putrid and I could get on just fine.  I'd miss a few things about it, but I could find something else to entertain in my off hours.

But if you have the time and energy for this, keep making threads and writing the devs and boycotting the games.  I'm not mocking you either.  Seriously, if it makes you happy to fight, then fight.

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Hah, no I have better things to do as well.  My battle consists of no longer pre-ordering games, a support of kickstarters I'm interested in (go check out Dreamfall), and this one thread.  I love Bioware and I want to love this game as well.

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The problem is EA is in the red thanks to the cluster "mess" that is The Old Republic, so they're going to be acting like THQ rushing as many half ass games and DLC to squeeze every last drop from their fans.

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Steve236 wrote...

The problem is EA is in the red thanks to the cluster "mess" that is The Old Republic, so they're going to be acting like THQ rushing as many half ass games and DLC to squeeze every last drop from their fans.


I don't know if their reputation can take too many more hits.  The only made $76 million last year on a revenue stream of over $4 billion.  And that's with all the squeezing.

On a side note, they're up for the Golden Poo again: http://consumerist.c...er-busch-inbev/
Voting until 3!

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I wont be ordering a pizza for lunch today. I was going to make a thread on this, but thought I'd use yours. People need to know.

But I'm sure I'll be pre-ordering DA:1 and likely two copies at that. I have yet to be unhappy with preordering Bioware games in the past.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

I wont be ordering a pizza for lunch today. I was going to make a thread on this, but thought I'd use yours. People need to know.

But I'm sure I'll be pre-ordering DA:1 and likely two copies at that. I have yet to be unhappy with preordering Bioware games in the past.


Yep, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I've never played a bad Bioware game (or EA game, but that's another topic).

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I will be pre-ordering. I do it all the time.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

I wont be ordering a pizza for lunch today. I was going to make a thread on this, but thought I'd use yours. People need to know.

But I'm sure I'll be pre-ordering DA:1 and likely two copies at that. I have yet to be unhappy with preordering Bioware games in the past.


If they put a toolset in for the PC version I will as well.

Why not just play the PC version instead? Because I like the controller better than a keyboard and a mouse. Though the control for Origins was great on the PC, horrid for DA2

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I'd happily take the time-related issues that DA2 suffered from over the ones in ME3, one thousand times over. Whats more, I loved DA2 so I have very little concerns with DAI. I'm pre-ordering AND getting the Collector's Edition (if one is available).

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bclagge wrote...



I love the games you produce Bioware, but I have been burned too many times lately, and twice by you (ME3 and DA2).  There's no need to rehash the issues with DA2, I think we all know what they are.  I want to love DA:I, and I'm eager for it to come out.  But I know who your publisher is.

This is a plea for sense, and respect for the consumer, and respect for yourselves!  Please, please do not release DA:I until it's ready!  Please, please do not cut corners!  If you do it right, people like myself will buy the game at full price and all DLCs!  Only if it's done right.  If it comes out runny and undercooked, I will wait until it's a bargain and I'm unlikely to buy any additional content.  I never bought the DA2 DLCs for that reason.

Respectfully and sincerely,

Brett C.


I know exactly where you're coming from dude, DA2 was a very disappointing game after all its hype and the expectations around it, and ME3 well........yeah......anyway.

I'm split though on the pre-ordering for DA3, chances are that I won't but if in six months they come out with a good reason to then I might just end up doing it, you never know.

In the end though, I feel that DA3 is going to be a make or break moment for Bioware as it will be the chance to prove to the fans that EA at least sorta cares and that Bioware can still make their fans happy, which will open the door for fans to put faith in ME4 whenever that's slated to come out.  However if DA3 is a bust like DA2 was, then I think it will be the true beginning of the end for Bioware as I believe that fans will start writing them off as a lost cause (and probably never forgive EA).

Anyway, just my two cents on it.

Modifié par KOP123, 25 mars 2013 - 06:08 .


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Preemptive "Pre Order Cancelled!"

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I didn't learn of dragon age origins until after it was released so no pre-order, but I did pre-ordered DA2. This time I won't be pre-ordering because I don't plan to buy it right away. I'll pick it up when I can get my hands on it for a cheaper price.

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I never pre-order games. That means I can't make threads like these.

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I'll pre-order if I can get game + all major day 1 DLC for £30 or less.

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Knowing that I'll buy the game anyway, and love the setting enough to buy it full price, I might as well pre-order and get it ASAP (if Origin allows preload, since it probably won't be available on Steam). Also get the pre-order bonus in the process, even though I've yet to find one that's a pre-order reason in itself.

Other games are a different matter. I've been known to pre-order, pre-load and then let the game sitting there for weeks just because I wasn't in the mood. So now, I wait for sales before buying, and I feel less guilty of money wasting and other similar sins. DA3 is different because I'm always in the mood for Thedas, so why wait?

As for the video, I happen to have a great dislike for doomsayers on general principle, the amount of right or wrong arguments notwithstanding. So... well :/

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I buy digital. No pre-orders of any game though, even if I'm guaranteed it'll be great.

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Wow that youtube video really opened my eyes- shame that there are still top quality games being produced every year that I'm willing to spend on.

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Please pre oder!I will die from sadness if you don't!

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P-Pr-Pre-Preorder cancelled!

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Blair Brown wrote...

bclagge wrote...

Blair Brown wrote...
Most games I buy I pre-order and I only
purchase digitially now.  I like having the game downloaded and
installed pre-launch so I can start playing right at midnight.


And that is tempting!  I have a job I have to be up early for though, so this isn't an issue for me currently.  But, it would be if I were in a position to play at midnight. Edit: Especially because of my love of (nearly) everything Bioware!  On the surface it seeeeems like a safe bet.


To be fair i'm in the minority as it's part of my job to keep up with these things, but also, I usually only do this for games that I'm pretty sure i'll love. Last few were, Farcry 3, X-Com, Dishonored, D3, SimCity (only one that didnt have a pre-load wtf.) And tonight, BIOSHOCK!@#!%#

Mabye i'm just easy to please hehe.


Damn Blair...your gaming d##k must be HUGE!! :blink:

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Why do people pre-order games if not for the pre-order bonus? They're not going to run out of copies, I can guarantee you that. And I have been to "prerelease" events, and I don't see the appeal.

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Blair Brown wrote...

bclagge wrote...

Blair Brown wrote...
Most games I buy I pre-order and I only
purchase digitially now.  I like having the game downloaded and
installed pre-launch so I can start playing right at midnight.


And that is tempting!  I have a job I have to be up early for though, so this isn't an issue for me currently.  But, it would be if I were in a position to play at midnight. Edit: Especially because of my love of (nearly) everything Bioware!  On the surface it seeeeems like a safe bet.


To be fair i'm in the minority as it's part of my job to keep up with these things, but also, I usually only do this for games that I'm pretty sure i'll love. Last few were, Farcry 3, X-Com, Dishonored, D3, SimCity (only one that didnt have a pre-load wtf.) And tonight, BIOSHOCK!@#!%#

Mabye i'm just easy to please hehe.


What's the big deal with bringing games out midweek all the while when most customers have to get up for work/school the next morning? Wouldn't it be better bringing them out on a friday night so most customers have all weekend to play them?