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#201
MittelBienchen2

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Raiden Storm wrote...

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Trogdorx wrote...

There is entirely too much butt-kissing in this thread.
BW made many, many mistakes when it came to this game, SP and MP included. Many overpowered things are still overpowered, many underpowered things are still underpowered. And it really didn't seem like any of our threads pointing out these issues had any effect on what actually happened in the balance changes.

"There are many things we wish we had time to fix and improve, but as Jonathan Warner mentioned in Bioware’s blog post here, the team is moving on to new and exciting projects."

Bullcrap. You had plenty of time; many issues are months old. You either squandered it, or you were playing favorites with the balance changes.

Unfortunately I hate to pull the "Blame EA" card, but it was EA who decided that a very limited amount of people were needed for the MP team. EA also decided that even with all the micro-transaction and SP DLC money that we only deserved limited support for a year. Bioware did make their own mistakes, but this was due to keeping the game balanced in a way to promote paying for the packs with real money.

Letting micro-transaction systems influence the balance of the game is a very bad thing indeed.:pinched:


Yes you should hate blaming EA.  He does have a point they had more then enough time and resources to fix the problems the ME multi faced but they chose to waste it on silly frivelous changes in the most part. 1 year is more then long enough to create a full sized half descent game. Even with a limited team if they were half as talented as they boast they should have easily been able to fix the bugs.

Honestly having taken a full year to fix bad glitches like Collectors, rockets etc and it is EA's fault? They didn't even fix the problem it is here to stay. No again blaming it on EA everytime something goes wrong is the norm on forum but anybody can see that is far from the truth.

Are you an insider? Do you know BioWare's capacities and the tasks each of the employees has? Are you an expert in bug fixing? Do you know all the political background BioWare has to deal with? ...

Sometimes things look easier as they in fact are. This especially comes true if you are to assess the work of others.

Just for an example: In my company there is one department which did not manage to write one SOP (standard operating procedure) in nearly one year. Everyone says this is impossible, why didn't they do it and so on. The fact is that there were a lot of other things with higher priority and of course capacity also was a problem.

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YachiruChin

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Thank you! Will still be playing ME3 every now and then until the servers are shut down. =]

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JediBear

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Pity you couldn't find time to fix all the things. Sad that Lodestar was our last challenge. I finally thought you were taking it in an interesting direction.

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drmoose00

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all of this raises an interesting question, regarding those who spent some serious $$ at the store (not me). They have purchased the content (weapons and such), which will at some point be unavailable/taken away....

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Well thanks for honest and straightforward communication to us fans.
Much appreciated.

I didn't want to touch MP when the game came out, but now I played it a lot more than SP and love it. Good job on this one!

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hjgfjg wrote...

Thanks for all of your hard work and dedication to making this game reach the point it is at now. The amount of post-release support for this game was amazing and I couldn't ask for anyone on your team to do more than they have already done.

couldnt have put it better myself.

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@ Eric Fagnan: Could I please get an answer to this? Is modding now OK(-er than before), if it is clearly aimed at fixing the remaining bugs?

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It was a great ride. I suppose my time in this game will also soon come to an end then.

#209
JaimasOfRaxis

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So, allow me to say it, since no one else will.

I am disappoint.

#210
Tyrannus00

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 This hurts me.:crying:

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Congratulations. You made it to the end.

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diosprometheus

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Was expected after the Blunder King left the building, the closing of Bioware offices in California, the layoffs, and the coming economic and political storms.

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Bioware FTW!!!

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Tankinator

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Good job, but I am quite sad to see that you will never correct all the actual bugs before discontinuing the support...

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I have very mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, it's one of my all-time favourite games, and a superb multiplayer experience that keeps me playing even a year after release. On the other hand, there has been a total failure to respond to key issues. I'd have prefered at least some acknowledgement and honesty like "we're not going to fix that because... blah" as opposed to just pretending certain things don't exist. It's a shame that one of the greatest games out there is spoiled by a few really obvious things.

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MittelBienchen2 wrote...
Are you an insider? Do you know BioWare's capacities and the tasks each of the employees has? Are you an expert in bug fixing? Do you know all the political background BioWare has to deal with? ...

Sometimes things look easier as they in fact are. This especially comes true if you are to assess the work of others.

Just for an example: In my company there is one department which did not manage to write one SOP (standard operating procedure) in nearly one year. Everyone says this is impossible, why didn't they do it and so on. The fact is that there were a lot of other things with higher priority and of course capacity also was a problem.


Stop being an apologist. They had enough people, time, and resources to implement entire DLC expansions; new weapons, new enemies, new art, etc. Most of which was wasted effort; The collectors are arguably the most hated enemy faction, the weapons are useless, and the changes to Cerb+Geth+Maps were specifically designed to make a playstyle impossible.

Meanwhile, some weapons got nerfed into the ground, some started useless and stayed useless.

I have a hard time believing they 'ran out of time' over the course of a year, when I can go into a text file and change the stats of weapons in a matter of minutes.

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And you couldn't tell us this 2 weeks ago?  Figured you trick people once again into maybe sticking around a bit longer, only to inform them of the regretful news at the last possible minute?  What a joke.  My opinion of how EA/BioWare communicates with players has been in freefall for a while now and it just keeps on falling.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Hey everyone, I regret to announce that we will no longer be releasing any more balance updates. There are many things we wish we had time to fix and improve, but as Jonathan Warner mentioned in Bioware’s blog post here, the team is moving on to new and exciting projects.

I just wanted to say that our team has really enjoyed interacting with the community this past year through weekend events, balance changes, and discussions on the forums. We learned a lot about running a multiplayer service, and the community definitely taught us a lot about our own game through amazing gameplay videos and in depth analysis of our weapons, powers, and kits. I know Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was a bit controversial when it was announced, but I think it’s safe to say it was a huge success.

Although weekend events and balance changes are finished, you will still see us around the forums. Thanks for playing!


Many thanks for the excellent work. I'm not sure i've ever enjoyed a multiplayer game that much. 

Thanks for the way you've been looking after the game this whole year, for the free DLCs, and for the way you've always improved the game. 

There may still be things to improve... but what ever achieves perfect balance ?

I and a few non-english-speaking friends around me wish you the best in your new projects.

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This MP was the reason I got my money's worth. It's nothing short of brilliant, even if it was let down by the technical side and balance, the design of it is just so good, that it overpowered everything bad about it.

SP was a major failure and I am still very very disappointed about that, but I am at least happy to say that I am proud of BW for making the best horde mode MP ever released on PC.

Well done!

Modifié par Megakoresh, 26 mars 2013 - 08:14 .


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I appreciate the official statement.
It's been a good ride and the weekly news (i.e. balance changes) were very entertaining. The resulting fuss here on the forum has added a lot to the fun and to the 'how to' of the gameplay. I'm gonna miss it.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

And you couldn't tell us this 2 weeks ago?  Figured you trick people once again into maybe sticking around a bit longer, only to inform them of the regretful news at the last possible minute?  What a joke.  My opinion of how EA/BioWare communicates with players has been in freefall for a while now and it just keeps on falling.


What exactly have they tricked you into doing?

If you haven't enjoyed playing the game in those last two weeks then more the fool you for doing so.  Or were you expecting some, "Fix all things update" before the dev team left.

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ElectroNeonPanda wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

And you couldn't tell us this 2 weeks ago?  Figured you trick people once again into maybe sticking around a bit longer, only to inform them of the regretful news at the last possible minute?  What a joke.  My opinion of how EA/BioWare communicates with players has been in freefall for a while now and it just keeps on falling.


What exactly have they tricked you into doing?

If you haven't enjoyed playing the game in those last two weeks then more the fool you for doing so.  Or were you expecting some, "Fix all things update" before the dev team left.


Ask yourself why they didn't make this announcement until now.  Hint: it's the same reason why they held off on telling us there wouldn't be a patch for so long.

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Well that's good news, no more butchering of the game.

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There were a lot of good DLCs, updates and challenges. I'm a little sad it is all over, but I guess I can't demand more support. Hopefully the ME4 MP will be even better!

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

ElectroNeonPanda wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

And you couldn't tell us this 2 weeks ago?  Figured you trick people once again into maybe sticking around a bit longer, only to inform them of the regretful news at the last possible minute?  What a joke.  My opinion of how EA/BioWare communicates with players has been in freefall for a while now and it just keeps on falling.


What exactly have they tricked you into doing?

If you haven't enjoyed playing the game in those last two weeks then more the fool you for doing so.  Or were you expecting some, "Fix all things update" before the dev team left.


Ask yourself why they didn't make this announcement until now.  Hint: it's the same reason why they held off on telling us there wouldn't be a patch for so long.


You really believe BW get to decide when they make their announcements.  I think you're directing your ire at the wrong two letters.