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[Ledgend1221]

Soldier superiority.

Also OP, your wrong. Male Shepard was better.

[andysdead]

Femshep has the worst romance options. lol

[Epsilon330]

Pfft, everyone knows that Engie's the best! He just takes skill, especially in ME3. Tech Bursts galore!

In ME1 he was an absolute beast. Give him AR Training, a Savant X Omnitool, and some decent armour, and he'll tear apart Geth and shields. Taking my EngieShep to UNC: Rogue VI was amazing. With Tali there, our AI Hacking skills combined turned it into a mechanical battle-royale!

He's at his weakest in ME2. AI Hacking gets demoted considering the only targets are Geth (who appear for all of 3 missions), weak LOKIs and FENRISes, and the odd YMIR. Overload's not the answer-to-everything power it is in 3, but it still sees use. Incinerate and Cryo Blast are excellent against crowds. Attack Drones are also great to "fire and forget". Couple that with a Locust/Mattock, and you're set.

And then we have ME3. Flamer Turrets? Rocket Combat Drones? Incinerate? Sabotage? Overload? You've got an answer to everything. Tech Bursts are easy to set up, as are Cryo and Fire Explosions. Take a light AR such as the Mattock or Lancer to keep cooldowns low. If you opt to give your Drone and Turret extra health, it's like you just called in two more Squadmates!

Modifié par Epsilon330, 26 mars 2013 - 05:32 .

[Ligan]

I always play the Adept class, but I played for first the Sentiniel class. It's strange but I always play male Shepard, even though I'm a girl, while my father always plays female Shepard... I love all the characters, all the Normandy's crew and I think the Adept class is the best, especially in the third chapter, when you can hit the enemies with one shot melee... Absolutely the best class.

[Ziguehart]

I like the idea of the adept, but playing a entire game relying with only biotic explosions never caught my attention, so i just play with the soldier.

Plus the only power i like is Flare.

Modifié par Ziguehart, 26 mars 2013 - 05:44 .

[biiskit]

Ziguehart wrote...

I like the idea of the adept, but playing a entire game relying with only biotic explosions never caught my attention, so i just play with the soldier.

Plus the only power i like is Flare.

There's something so satisfying in the echoing boom that accompanies a biotic explosion though.

[Exile Isan]

andysdead wrote...

Femshep has the worst romance options. lol

Garrus is a bad romance option? Excuse me while I laugh myself to death.

[Vespervin]

biiskit wrote...

Ziguehart wrote...

I like the idea of the adept, but playing a entire game relying with only biotic explosions never caught my attention, so i just play with the soldier.

Plus the only power i like is Flare.

There's something so satisfying in the echoing boom that accompanies a biotic explosion though.

Indeed. Also, using throw is fun on Mass Effect one. Those enemies just fly awayyyyy!

[JediBear]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...
Apart from a few lines and the choice of who to romance, both Shepards are exactly alike. So I don't see how one could be ''better'' than the other. 

There's a thing called context. It exists.

Male shepard is a stereotypical and entirely uninteresting Space Marine. Just like every single one of the hundred or so I've played enough to be bored with. I couldn't get done with him fast enough, only played him in the first place to romance Ash.

Being female puts FemShep into a completely different context. Mostly the same actions. Mostly the same lines. But "Shepard can't dance" jokes have a totally different vibe when they're directed at a woman.

Also, Jen Hale is the better voice actor. Especially in the first game.

They had no distinctive male or female character traits, or rather, FemShep was just a guy with ******.

There are no distinctive male or female character traits. Those are a cultural construct of a society we left over a century in the past. The accidental genius of ME was in "realizing" this and giving us a female marine who was a MARINE (and then, of course, they had to screw it up by dressing Ash in pink, to say nothing of ME2+)

[robertthebard]

andysdead wrote...

Femshep has the worst romance options. lol

Ah hahahahahahahahaha, hahahahahhaha, *cough cough* hahahahahahaha.

Oh wait, you're serious?  I'm sorry, but Garrus romance aside, Traynor's romance kicks ass, especially the lines just before the raid on TIM's base.  I love Tali, I really do, and my MSheps will romance her, but Traynor's speech just before TIM's base solidifies her as one of the best romances in the series, as far as I'm concerned.  After all, she got to steal one of the lines most often attributed to Mr. Gaider:  "Suck it up, Princess..."  I just about fell out of my chair the first time, and it never fails to get a response.  So yeah, I don't see where you're getting your misinformation from, unless, of course, all you ever did was romance Liara?  Or worse, never tried any, and just based your response on what other people had to say on the forums?

[Anthadlas]

Star fury wrote...

Wraith 02 wrote...

Star fury wrote...

It's a travesty really. Those who chose Sheploo missed a lot, Hale is called voiceover queen for reason.

Yeah cos the vocal minority feel obliged to shove her "amazing" performance down our throats untill we like it.

Most people who played Sheploo have tried Femshep and didn't like it.
Also most the people who play Male Shep don't feel the need to come on BSN and constantly tell everyone why they think it is the best

Touched a nerve here, I see. Defend him with a passion, I don't give a damn. It's your loss, not mine.

Not really, just telling you that most people don't like femshep and the ones that do are very vocal about it, doesn't change my opinion on the matter,

And it seems the nerve was hit when you jumped to her defense saying she is a voice over queen when confronted with the fact that less than 20% play your "queen"

[robertthebard]

Wraith 02 wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Wraith 02 wrote...

Star fury wrote...

It's a travesty really. Those who chose Sheploo missed a lot, Hale is called voiceover queen for reason.

Yeah cos the vocal minority feel obliged to shove her "amazing" performance down our throats untill we like it.

Most people who played Sheploo have tried Femshep and didn't like it.
Also most the people who play Male Shep don't feel the need to come on BSN and constantly tell everyone why they think it is the best

Touched a nerve here, I see. Defend him with a passion, I don't give a damn. It's your loss, not mine.

Not really, just telling you that most people don't like femshep and the ones that do are very vocal about it, doesn't change my opinion on the matter,

And it seems the nerve was hit when you jumped to her defense saying she is a voice over queen when confronted with the fact that less than 20% play your "queen"

However, looking at the history of this thread alone, you're spending a lot of time jumping to MShep's defence.  If you don't mind my asking, and frankly, even if you do, why is that?  I'm going to burst your bubble a bit here, but I'm not a "hater" of either Shep.  I'm not a rampant defender of FemShep, nor MShep for that matter.  I do feel that certain dialog options were better delivered by one or the other, but frankly, that doesn't mean that I felt the one that got the short end of the stick on one or the other was inferior to the other, just that they got the short end of the stick for that line.  My example of where, purely for the sake of example, you try to get to Mordin, and use the Renegade response on the guard.  FemShep comes off dripping with venom, whereas MShep comes off sounding kind of moronic.  Perhaps that line would have been better if they'd used something different depending on gender, but as it is, FemShep gets the nod on that particular line.  Dealing with Jack in ME 3 is a place where I felt Renegade MShep came out a bit ahead of FemShep, just in the way the lines hit me.

[Atakuma]

ME4 PC to be male only, confirmed.

[NoxNoctum]

 Normally I prefer to play female characters in RPGs, but I prefer Maleshep by a mile. I just find his renegade voice acting a lot better. Renegade answers seem too forced for some reason in femshep, it's hard to explain. 

[JediBear]

Oh wait, you're serious?  I'm sorry, but Garrus romance aside,

I didn't like the Garrus romance. It was funny, but that's not what I was looking for. Thane is downright creepy. Jacob actually is a creep.

Yeah, ME2's FemShep romance options sucked. Can't complain about the ME1/ME3 options though.

Though to be fair, ME2 Male Shep's romance options are rather over-rated. Tali is even weirder than Garrus (only one that seriously squicks me,) and Miranda barely has a personality. Ultimately,, the only one I really liked was Jack. Which sucked when they all but left her out of ME3.
 

Traynor's romance kicks ass, especially the lines just before the raid on TIM's base.  

Agreed. Made staying faithful to Liara hard. Not impossible, but hard.

IMO, Cortez doesn't really rise to that level.

Ultimately, there's no accounting for taste. Some folks loved the Garrus/Tali romance options. Some folks hated them. I'm not really into aliens. Especially Aliens with toxic body fluids. To make it worse, the ME1 relationship with these characters was very much mentor/student, and even brother/sister for Shep/Tali. Moving from that to romance rubs me the wrong way, even more than sleeping with people under my command (which I allow for narrative convenience.)

Some people really liked Thane, too. I just disagree.

[ShaggyWolf]

I think what I'm surprised the most by is a lot of people's insistence that their opinion is right and better than everyone else's.

People like and dislike different things. If those stats represent anything, it's that simple fact.

Modifié par Valadras21, 26 mars 2013 - 07:13 .

[JediBear]

Not really, just telling you that most people don't like femshep and the ones that do are very vocal about it, doesn't change my opinion on the matter,

Oh, there's not really evidence of that. 20% play as her, that doesn't mean 80% hate her. A lot of people make their character choices on the basis of a strong desire to identify with their characters. A lot of male players play male characters exclusively, or at least habitually.

And it seems the nerve was hit when you jumped to her defense saying she is a voice over queen when confronted with the fact that less than 20% play your "queen"

To be fair, she was seriously underpromoted. I actually didn't get the game for a while because I was unaware there were any options beyond the too-pretty fellow with the flat voice. Even ME3 largely failed in promoting one of (IMO) the series's best aspects.

[Anthadlas]

robertthebard wrote...

Wraith 02 wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Wraith 02 wrote...

Star fury wrote...

It's a travesty really. Those who chose Sheploo missed a lot, Hale is called voiceover queen for reason.

Yeah cos the vocal minority feel obliged to shove her "amazing" performance down our throats untill we like it.

Most people who played Sheploo have tried Femshep and didn't like it.
Also most the people who play Male Shep don't feel the need to come on BSN and constantly tell everyone why they think it is the best

Touched a nerve here, I see. Defend him with a passion, I don't give a damn. It's your loss, not mine.

Not really, just telling you that most people don't like femshep and the ones that do are very vocal about it, doesn't change my opinion on the matter,

And it seems the nerve was hit when you jumped to her defense saying she is a voice over queen when confronted with the fact that less than 20% play your "queen"

However, looking at the history of this thread alone, you're spending a lot of time jumping to MShep's defence.  If you don't mind my asking, and frankly, even if you do, why is that?  I'm going to burst your bubble a bit here, but I'm not a "hater" of either Shep.  I'm not a rampant defender of FemShep, nor MShep for that matter.  I do feel that certain dialog options were better delivered by one or the other, but frankly, that doesn't mean that I felt the one that got the short end of the stick on one or the other was inferior to the other, just that they got the short end of the stick for that line.  My example of where, purely for the sake of example, you try to get to Mordin, and use the Renegade response on the guard.  FemShep comes off dripping with venom, whereas MShep comes off sounding kind of moronic.  Perhaps that line would have been better if they'd used something different depending on gender, but as it is, FemShep gets the nod on that particular line.  Dealing with Jack in ME 3 is a place where I felt Renegade MShep came out a bit ahead of FemShep, just in the way the lines hit me.

Not In a single post have I defended Maleshep, I'm impartial between the two,
However I do hate the fanatical femshep fanboys who insist on pointing out how bad they think Mark Meer is in comparrison, when they are both highly excellent

Modifié par Wraith 02, 26 mars 2013 - 07:24 .

[JediBear]

Not In a single post have I defended Maleshep, I'm impartial between the two,
However I do hate the fanatical femshep fanboys who insist on pointing out how bad they think Mark Meer is in comparrison, when they are both highly excellent

That rings false, given your failure to defend Jen against similar charges.

[Anthadlas]

JediBear wrote...

Not In a single post have I defended Maleshep, I'm impartial between the two,
However I do hate the fanatical femshep fanboys who insist on pointing out how bad they think Mark Meer is in comparrison, when they are both highly excellent

That rings false, given your failure to defend Jen against similar charges.

You need to go back and read my posts then, her Bastilla VA was one of the best I have ever heard and never in any of my posts did i critique her performance or inflate that of Mark Meer.

All I did was point out how absurd some peoples views towards femshep are as some type of VA goddess and then when ever somebody defends Mark Meer, they get labelled as a manshep fanboy and a femshep hater and somehow their opinions on voice actors apparantly mean less.

Femshep has a very vocal fanbase but whenever the largely silent fanbase of manshep tries to say how much they liked his performance they get shouted down by people saying how much better Jennifer Hales performance was which is massively opinion based.

So no I am not biased against either VA but i believe Mark Meers performance should get the large amount of respect it deserves without people who purely love femshep shouting it down as inferior

[Exile Isan]

JediBear wrote...
To be fair, she was seriously underpromoted. I actually didn't get the game for a while because I was unaware there were any options beyond the too-pretty fellow with the flat voice. Even ME3 largely failed in promoting one of (IMO) the series's best aspects.

Agreed. Which is something I've been complaining about since the first advertising campaign for ME1.


As to romances, whose best depends on the player and their Shepard. I can't possibly see my character Sara being with anyone but Garrus, same goes for Nadia and Thane, and Rhianna with Kaidan. But other people may hate these romances or they may not fit their Shepard. There's nothing wrong with that. But when people say in absolutes that all FemSheps romances are terrible then I have a problem. (And I know I kinda did the same thing in a previous post, I'm a hypocrite so sue me. It's all Garrus' fault for being so awesome!)

 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I'm a Sheploo Soldier (Earthborn, Sole Survivor, first name is John). That's really my only Shepard.

I have an itching to do a FemShep run. Going to go with stock Femshep (Jane, Default appearance) but I'm going with the Colonist War Hero Adept background.

I might do a custom appearance, idk yet.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 26 mars 2013 - 07:54 .

[cerberus1701]

Atakuma wrote...

ME4 PC to be male only, confirmed.

Link?

[Ledgend1221]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

ME4 PC to be male only, confirmed.

Link?

No, Shepard.

[jsamlaw]

The Adept stat surprised me. No class kills faster than an Adept spamming biotic combos with Liara and Kaiden in tow. Adept was my favorite, with Tech Armor/Defense Matrix Sentinel a close second.

My first character was a Soldier, because it was the easiest and most durable class in ME1, which could account for the large discrepancy (that and role play reasons).