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[andresft]

I don't know why on Earth so many people hate the BF3 soldier. Adrenaline Rush is basically a seven-second tactical-cloak damage bonus, plus 40% shields and a fast cooldown. No class with AR can ever be considered to be subpar. Plus, Carnage is good for Fire Explosions.

The Turian Havoc seems like a far less usable soldier to me.

[DarkerCompanion]

andresft wrote...

I don't know why on Earth so many people hate the BF3 soldier. Adrenaline Rush is basically a seven-second tactical-cloak damage bonus, plus 40% shields and a fast cooldown. No class with AR can ever be considered to be subpar. Plus, Carnage is good for Fire Explosions.

The Turian Havoc seems like a far less usable soldier to me.

As someone who has a good appreciation for a CS-spam Human Soldier, I appreciate that the BF3 is just the Carnage variant. If I want to spam CS and frags, thats my female Human Soldier. If I want AR and frags, thats my male Human Soldier. If I want AR and Carnage, thats my BF3 soldier.

The other classes with Carnage weren't conducive to using it . . . Kroguard needed all of his points in other places and his cooldown is tied up with other things, Kroldier was busy with Incendiary 'nades and also had a slowed cooldown and needed his points, and Vorcha Soldier was pure flamethrower/bloodlust (so my Sent could be a cluster-nade hybrid). I had no other "devoted" Carnage class in the game.

[sandboxgod]

Turian Havoc is really strong now post-buffs. Stim packs can keep him alive really easy as long as you pop it a second before a 'death blow'. Havok Strike was tweaked just right now. Heck I even enjoy spamming cryoblast for the damage bonuses. All 3 powers are viable.

[Curzyfish]

january42 wrote...

Adept: Batarian  (people thing Phoenix is worse thant this guy?  Phoenix isn't  great,but better than this) Both have somewhat limited combo capability but singularity is awesome and smash is at least pretty good in some situations. Batadept should have had Reave rather than warp. This guy may exist to make the Phoenix look better.

Soldier: Havok - Has an argument as the worst class in the game IMHO.

Engineer: Turian. MQE gets pass because Arc grenades are great. Voleng can at least be a decent weapons platform spamming prox mine and is a debuff machine.

Sentinal: Volus

Infiltrator: No class with TC can be bad.  Umm, Human.

Vanguard: Dell/Asari - both are just crappy versions of the adept

I will play with anyone on pc right now, if you think the batarian adept is in anyway, shape, or form is bad.  Seriously.  I would call him better than the drell adept, but mobility trumps the batarians combo damage in the end.

[DarkerCompanion]

I have a lack of respect for the Havoc, he just seems like a gimped Vanguard. That his third power is Cryo Blast, the power that I have always considered the WORST in the game, only serves to reduce his appeal.

I didn't list him as worst because I could just build him for heavy AR use with Stim spam, and maybe debuff with Cryo Blast, (which is more or less viable), but I simply never use him.

[fuk_em_all71]

Human/BF3 soldier is awesome if you use all points toward AR and all other powers beside carnage/CS because AR can give instant 100% shield boost that will kill any bleed damage such as the banshee or atlas attacks. AR can also give 70% dam. bonus so with n7 typhoon human soldier can kill anything in the game

[lightswitch]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

You shouldn't be. It's a mediocre (at best) kit. 

Pretty confident sounding statement for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

BF3 Soldier > Vanilla HS

If anything people should be choosing the vanilla HSol instead of the BF3 soldier.

Modifié par lightswitch, 27 mars 2013 - 08:23 .

[thyrandomninja]

N7NJA982 wrote...

BOSSTER23 wrote...

Adept:  Volus
Soldier: Battlefield 3
Engineer: Salarian
Sentinel: Volus
Infiltrator: Quarian
Vanguard: Volus

Don't let ToLazy4Name hear about this.

i am also less than impressed.

[thyrandomninja]

Razorhawkzor wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...
Anyone who says that any of the Volus are the worst in their respective category are fools.

Put away that blind Volus love for a sec.
Adepy, Vanguard, and Engineer are somewhat viable. But what's your argument about the Sentinel?

COMBAT DRONE! I own the field with this guy on gold. give him a piranha, ignore decoy and do violence. trust me, it works.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

adept: ex-Cerberus, smash needs a damage reduction during the smash animation, and they just generally seem really squishy, more squishy than the drell.
soldier: havoc, he's really fun to play, charging and meleeing things. but on gold, charging into the unknown isn't really a good idea, especially since he doesn't have the same survival as biotic charge.
engineer: salarian, on wide and open maps he struggles to keep the situation under control, but on cqc maps he is excellent.
sentinel: baterian, the subnet-shockwave combo can work, but its effectiveness in the field is a bit lackluster.
infiltrator: shadow, shodow strike is sometimes unreliable, and sometimes when you shadow striking one guy, another guy will melee you while your still cloaked. frustrating.
vanguard: ex-Cerberus, smash needs a damage reduction during the smash animation, and they just generally seem really squishy, more squishy than the drell. also because you cannot biotic charge, smash without dying instantly, which would be a more fun way of playing him in my opinion than holding back to survive, what other vanguard needs to hold back?

[Shadow of Terror]

MasterPeras wrote...

Adept: Battarian
Soldier: Battarian
Engineer: Vorcha
Sentinel: Volus
Infiltrator: Huntress
Vanguard: Volus

Erm, why did you list the best soldier there?

[stysiaq]

Adept - Volus, unfortunately
Soldier - BF3 (just because he looks stupid and I never play him)
Sentinel: Volus, unfortunately
Engineer: Saboteur
Infiltrator: all are OP, but let's say the regular Human
Vanguard: Phoenix

[IMA_KICK_YO_ASZ]

adept-krogan
soilder- regular human
sentinel- regular human
engineer-vorcha
infiltrator-salarian
vangaurd-drell

ex cerb are awsome i out score stuff like crazy with them and that quarian marksman

[Wolfsbladex]

mybudgee wrote...

I guess I need to be taken to... the University of PHOENIX!!

YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!

[stysiaq]

IMA_KICK_YO_ASZ wrote...

adept-krogan
soilder- regular human
sentinel- regular human
engineer-vorcha
infiltrator-salarian
vangaurd-drell

ex cerb are awsome i out score stuff like crazy with them and that quarian marksman

[sy7ar]

Saboteur is the kit that I refuse to get my hands on. For those who think phoenix vanguard the worst, l2p.

[Ulfhednar7807]

I think OP is a Cerberus agent... The very title of the post is indicative of a racist view of the galaxy... ;-)

[JeIIyyyyyyyyyy]

Verroq wrote...

Adept: basic Asari. Crappier version of the human sentinel
Soldier: Quarian Marksman. Absolutely worthless class
Engineer: Salarian. Decoy is worthless. It's a crappier Paladin, essentially.
Sentinel: Volus Mercenary. Again, Decoy is worthless. No reason to choose this over any other volus
Infiltrator: basic human. Not much in the way of standing out in any area
Vanguard: Asari. Stasis sniping is not effective, and neither is anything else on that thing

Stupidity ensues. Lrn2LiftGrenade and Lrn2WarpThrow. Marksman makes any class great, by the way. Straight DPS increases with added accuracy are always fun.

[shnig_1]

People saying quarian marksman, you guys a lee a bunch of clowns. Literal Birthday Clowns

[Stathis1992]

Seriously what wrong with all of about the volus sentinel? He is if not the best the 2nd best just behind the vanguard, ignorant people.

Adept - Ex-cerberus (he is not trash at all but the rest are better).
Soldier - Maybe Quarian marksman (why to use this guy instead of the turian?).
Engineer - Vorcha hunter (bloodlust.......wow very new, incinerate? ok many other that, sub.net....much better in the batarian).
Sentinel - Vanilla human (Yes I know wrap + inc ammo abuse but there are better sentinels for that trick).
Infiltrator - all are good but the least preferable are vanilla human and maybe and the female quarian.
Vanguard - Ex-cerberus.

[DarkerCompanion]

Regular Human Sentinel?

I think not. Its an Asari Adept who trades Stasis for extra power damage and durability. They make for excellent Warp/Throw combo characters. There are worse Sentinels.

[Verroq]

DarkerCompanion wrote...

Adept: Krogan Shaman - He seems like a Kroguard minus the -guard. Whats the point? I guess if you want to be really tanky and use biotics?

That's actually it exactly. He makes the most powerful detonations in the game

[mandalorian sun]

DarkerCompanion wrote...

I have a lack of respect for the Havoc, he just seems like a gimped Vanguard. That his third power is Cryo Blast, the power that I have always considered the WORST in the game, only serves to reduce his appeal.

I didn't list him as worst because I could just build him for heavy AR use with Stim spam, and maybe debuff with Cryo Blast, (which is more or less viable), but I simply never use him.

No. lash is the worst power. Cryo blast completely freezes mooks, and both slows and increases damage towards large units. Run a havok without havok strike and you have an excellent, highly mobile weapons platform with crowd control and debuff

[mandalorian sun]

Ulfhednar7807 wrote...

I think OP is a Cerberus agent... The very title of the post is indicative of a racist view of the galaxy... ;-)

To be fair, i play humans 75% of the time, but i do like those asari ladies, yes i do. One look at them running is...mind-opening

[Verroq]

mandalorian sun wrote...

DarkerCompanion wrote...

I have a lack of respect for the Havoc, he just seems like a gimped Vanguard. That his third power is Cryo Blast, the power that I have always considered the WORST in the game, only serves to reduce his appeal.

I didn't list him as worst because I could just build him for heavy AR use with Stim spam, and maybe debuff with Cryo Blast, (which is more or less viable), but I simply never use him.

No. lash is the worst power. Cryo blast completely freezes mooks, and both slows and increases damage towards large units. Run a havok without havok strike and you have an excellent, highly mobile weapons platform with crowd control and debuff

Lash is a much better version of Pull.

And Cryo blast followed by Havok Strike causes cryo explosions. That's why it's there. Havok strike is a fire power.