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[Kel Riever]

Jadebaby wrote...

So where was EDI in the memorial scene then?

or the geth slides that are present in control and synthesis?

Nope, unless you perform the MEHEM destroy ending, geth and EDI are snuba-dub-duba-dead.

They are there if you look really closely.

Also, imagination.

[MegaSovereign]

Steelcan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TIM could have found a way to resurrect synthetics.

Rest in peace you glorious, misguided bastard.

. *Cough* Lazarus 2.0. *cough* 

Why not. TIM basically already gave nature the middle finger.

[Jadebaby]

"now that the story about the Shepard is over, take this rifle and see if you can knock off those 3 steel cans."

[MegaSovereign]

I don't deserve to laugh. Leave me alone.

[Kel Riever]

Jadebaby wrote...

"now that the story about the Shepard is over, take this rifle and see if you can knock off those 3 steel cans."

Is that from the Citadel DLC? I wouldn't know if it was, because I stopped buying BioWare stuff...

Modifié par Kel Riever, 27 mars 2013 - 02:56 .

[Obadiah]

Jadebaby wrote...

I'd call it realist. No human is perfect, Shepard is no exception. Thank goodness we don't have to worry about such drab in our wonderful universe!

Ah, troll thread. Got it.

[Kel Riever]

Obadiah wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

I'd call it realist. No human is perfect, Shepard is no exception. Thank goodness we don't have to worry about such drab in our wonderful universe!

Ah, troll thread. Got it.

Stop your trolling by calling this a troll thread!

[Jadebaby]

@Obadiah, this is not a troll thread, I am being 100% sincere when I say that control is the best ending, for reasons explained in the OP, please keep this discussion on topic...
@Kel Riever, no, look at the previous page and you might understand.
@Mega (baby) Sovereign, read my sig, EVERYONE DESERVES TO LAUGH! But I'm glad you got it so swiftly, you're on the ball today my friend ; )

[TheProtheans]

Obadiah wrote...

Shep can't solve every problem, but in Control he can stop the war and save all of his allies. Someone else will just have to deal with the Shep AI if it gets out of hand or the Creator/Created war if it happens.

Jadebaby wrote...

Calm down Ieldra2, I think 3D is just a realist. You have to remember to leave realism out of this debate, stick it with logic and thematic consistency and then we can start debating why control is the best! : )

3D's argument is not realist, just stubbornly pessimistic

I'd call your argument naive, no offence.

Modifié par TheProtheans, 27 mars 2013 - 03:00 .

[Steelcan]

Jadebaby wrote...

"now that the story about the Shepard is over, take this rifle and see if you can knock off those 3 steel cans."

. Woah woah.  Lets not knock off any cans that may be constructed of steel.

[Steelcan]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TIM could have found a way to resurrect synthetics.

Rest in peace you glorious, misguided bastard.

. *Cough* Lazarus 2.0. *cough* 

Why not. TIM basically already gave nature the middle finger.

. It's not even like he went through atmospheric entry or exposure to a vacuum.  Hs just got a bullet.  And lots of Reaper tech.

[Big Bad]

Well played, Jadebaby. Well played.

[robertthebard]

Just a quick response to the title: No, it's not.

[Jadebaby]

TheProtheans wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

Shep can't solve every problem, but in Control he can stop the war and save all of his allies. Someone else will just have to deal with the Shep AI if it gets out of hand or the Creator/Created war if it happens.

I'd call your argument naive, no offence.

I would too, for reasons already elaborated on, but please. If you are going to engage in dialogue with him, please at least be civil.

robertthebard wrote...

Just a quick response to the title: No, it's not.

Do you mind explaining why it's not? 20 bonus points if you do it through song.

Modifié par Jadebaby, 27 mars 2013 - 03:05 .

[MegaSovereign]

Dammit Obadiah, locking this thread gains us nothing. We can dominate the thread, harness its essence and bring the internet to the apex of evolution.

[dreamgazer]

Control is the means to shenanigans.

[Jadebaby]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Dammit Obadiah, locking this thread gains us nothing. We can dominate the thread, harness its essence and bring the internet to the apex of evolution.

Do you have anything to contribute to the discussion? So far no one has given me any reasons to doubt my hypothesis stated in the OP, but in fact have supported it, thank you Obadiah. It makes me feel much better knowing that these thoughts I had shrugged off for over a year now have been legitimately good thoughts and could have been a result of why I got so pessimistic and cynical. Now that I have embraced my good thoughts on it and realized control is the best ending for me, I am content.

Anyway, if you don't have anything to contribute, would you please stop spamming the thread at least?

[TheProtheans]

Jadebaby wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

Shep can't solve every problem, but in Control he can stop the war and save all of his allies. Someone else will just have to deal with the Shep AI if it gets out of hand or the Creator/Created war if it happens.

I'd call your argument naive, no offence.

I would too, for reasons already elaborated on, but please. If you are going to engage in dialogue with him, please at least be civil.

I thought I was extremely civil, I didn't call him a retard and I didn't call his argument naive.
I implied I would call it naive but I did not actually call it naive.
I also ended with "no offence".


Personally I would give myself an A+ in being civil with someone I very much dislike and disagree with.

Modifié par TheProtheans, 27 mars 2013 - 03:12 .

[MegaSovereign]

Jadebaby wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Dammit Obadiah, locking this thread gains us nothing. We can dominate the thread, harness its essence and bring the internet to the apex of evolution.

Do you have anything to contribute to the discussion? So far no one has given me any reasons to doubt my hypothesis stated in the OP, but in fact have supported it, thank you Obadiah. It makes me feel much better knowing that these thoughts I had shrugged off for over a year now have been legitimately good thoughts and could have been a result of why I got so pessimistic and cynical. Now that I have embraced my good thoughts on it and realized control is the best ending for me, I am content.

Anyway, if you don't have anything to contribute, would you please stop spamming the thread at least?

I guess I'll find a way. I could always copy paste stuff from the billion other identical ending threads made in just this month alone.

[Kel Riever]

By the way, I have counted at least 24 legitimate endings to date. And the list is growing. None of the decent ones as far as content go were provided by BioWare, but that's hardly an unknown point by now.

[CronoDragoon]

dreamgazer wrote...

Control is the means to shenanigans.

Seriously think of the galactic prank potential.

[Big Bad]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely saves the day!  :innocent:

[Obadiah]

Presenting DARTH SHEPARD!!!

...and his trusty sidekick Legion 2.0; Legion reconstructed with a "better" attitude.

Shepard's plan was always to get rid of that stupid Council that kept ****ing everthing up, and to lead the galaxy into a glorious future. Once he left that stupid damage prone meatbag of a body behind, he was able to construct a proper platform and assume control.

Why green? Shepard AI is nothing if not distinctive and stylish.





Shepard AI welcomes your sorrow  and dispair .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Control Sucks.

[robertthebard]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@3DAndBeyond:
Your scenario is not more valid than any other. If you think *your* Shepard would act like this if you chose Control then of course you won't, but don't tell others how their post-Control scenario degenerates into an oppressive regime. It. Does. Not. Happen. Period. Not in my games anyway.
It's this insistence that "the outcome of a choice I don't agree with is bad" that makes me mad. If you can't imagine a better post-Control scenario that says more about you than about any intrinsic evil Control may or may not have.

So tell me, how did the Reapers come to be in the first place?  Wasn't the Catalyst just a tool of the Leviathans to stop a situation that they deemed counterproductive?  How is Shepard going to be any different?  How many millennia will it take for Shepard to break?  How long will it take for this Shepard to come around to the same way of thinking that the Catalyst did.  I don't know, and don't care, if you played Leviathan, but I did, and frankly, while the survivors didn't want to be harvested, they didn't really think the Harvest was bad.  They tell Shepard it's not broken, it's doing what it was designed to do.

On one hand, you say don't deal in absolutes, and then you state emphatically that what 3D proposes absolutely can't happen.  I can see it happening.  I can see an average civilian going through exactly the scenario that 3D proposes.  All you have to do is look at what happens when a shark does attack a person on a beach to see the very mentality that 3D mentions.  Only now, instead of taking care of the problem, they implant a chip, and say "see, he's not going to attack anyone ever again".  How do we know?  How is the shark going to eat, which is what it's designed to do, w/out killing something?  Your absolute may hold, for a century, for a hundred centuries, but sooner or later, it can break down.  It can break down, and leave a population that has grown to see the Reapers as a good thing completely unprepared for the consequences of it breaking down.  You can continue on in believing that it can't happen, but, the fact is, the Catalyst was originally created to solve a problem, and the Harvests were it's ultimate solution.  How can you state absolutely that your Shepard won't come to the same conclusion eventually?  I can answer that question in one word: denial.