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do it off host consistently.. seriously. everybody on the planet and their mother knows the n7 slayer is beastly on host. do it all off host

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megabeast37215 wrote...

You're welcome DarkFaerie : )

Also... one thing that needs pointed out is that, without Biotic Slash, the Slayer has relatively poor synergy with Biotic Teams (since Charge is his only detonator)... but still has fine synergy with Tech Teams. With Biotic Slash however... the Biotic Explosions are endless... and they are QUALITY Biotic Explosions since Slash has a +50% BE evolution (like Warp and Throw).

Slayer with Max Slash and someone with Reave or Dark Sphere = $$$$$

To those players worried about an Influx of Biotic Slash spammers... if that happens, just enslave them by playing the Justicar. Wherever you see them Slashing... you Reave those targets... then you will get the kills/points/BEs.


I'm not dissing your build at all, but I've had too many bad experiences with biotic slash for me to want to bother anymore. I find it too bulky of a power for my aggressive playstyle.

As for detonations, I usually equip my Slayer with a GPS and incendiary ammo. Both Phase disruptor and biotic charge will then set off fire explosions. Not exactly the best synergy with biotic teams, as you said, but it gets the job done pretty quickly as well, and I'm able to set and prime my own explosions.

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How did you get 900 damage on Phase Disruptor? All I get is 780 max.

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Air Quotes wrote...

How did you get 900 damage on Phase Disruptor? All I get is 780 max.


I saw that as well... and honestly... I don't know.

It might be factoring in the damage from the Pistol Power Amp mod... since it factors in things like ULM.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

You're welcome DarkFaerie : )

Also... one thing that needs pointed out is that, without Biotic Slash, the Slayer has relatively poor synergy with Biotic Teams (since Charge is his only detonator)... but still has fine synergy with Tech Teams. With Biotic Slash however... the Biotic Explosions are endless... and they are QUALITY Biotic Explosions since Slash has a +50% BE evolution (like Warp and Throw).

Slayer with Max Slash and someone with Reave or Dark Sphere = $$$$$

To those players worried about an Influx of Biotic Slash spammers... if that happens, just enslave them by playing the Justicar. Wherever you see them Slashing... you Reave those targets... then you will get the kills/points/BEs.



I'm in DragonRacer's tournament and I think I'm going to try your build for round 5 which is the "Earth DLC" round. Am really looking forward to it :)

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My biggest fail when I vanguard is not using the shield/health gate system. I forget all about it and end up charging to my death.

I didn't notice if you had the power amp on your acolyte. I wonder if that applies to force bonuses.

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Btw good vid I'm watching it now, I am proud of how you explain how to utilize biotic slash with detail and logic instead of spending out of it

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Great, now that's more Geth Scanners and Batarian Gauntlets for my Vanguards that I need.

Can't Falcon Voluspunch with a level 1 gauntlet or see what you Slash with a level 2 scanner after all.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

How did you get 900 damage on Phase Disruptor? All I get is 780 max.


I saw that as well... and honestly... I don't know.

It might be factoring in the damage from the Pistol Power Amp mod... since it factors in things like ULM.

 

Okay. I think it's power amp IV showing trough. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 27 mars 2013 - 09:31 .


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I hope this could get a few Slayers out to the battlefield. They are really underrepresented right now.

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I played a game with the beast when he was playing slayer not long ago. (Another game as a melee AIU and then one as some sort of other Vanguard). He owned the score in all of those games, I was amazed at how good phase disruptor worked and how dang quietly he killed things.

Interesting about using the PD at the critters feet, I never tried that.

Modifié par Beerfish, 27 mars 2013 - 09:34 .


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i noticed it shows the increased damage for you power mod for your pistol, but for some reason in the tool tip screen, it doesn't show an increase when power mods are attached on the smgs. Did i miss out on something? or is this known? hopefully both are in working order

#edit: never mind, i tested that on my collector adept, and no changes were made. but when i tested this on my N7 slayer, the something else happened besides it not showing in the tool tip. *yes i know the stat screen can be a horrible liar sometimes* 

it actually increased his damage even more so than the power amp on the pistol for some reason. both raise it by 30%, but its showing more damage on the power mod for my csmg

edit2: screw it, now they are both showing more damage than was showed in the video

Modifié par aaronisbla, 27 mars 2013 - 09:45 .


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kaxas92 wrote...

I hope this could get a few Slayers out to the battlefield. They are really underrepresented right now.


Because we all needed more BS screenshake!

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great build btw

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kaxas92 wrote...

I hope this could get a few Slayers out to the battlefield. They are really underrepresented right now.


because there is no dominate off-host play style for the n7 slayer. I think I myself may respec my n7 slayer and run many games off host to find an efficient setup.. Being unable to play character because you are not host is unacceptable

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IamZAE wrote...

kaxas92 wrote...

I hope this could get a few Slayers out to the battlefield. They are really underrepresented right now.


because there is no dominate off-host play style for the n7 slayer. I think I myself may respec my n7 slayer and run many games off host to find an efficient setup.. Being unable to play character because you are not host is unacceptable


True. I wouldn't mind seeing some hosts playing a Slayer though.

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I have a question for all bsners including megabeast.... Does power amp actually boost phase disruptor shots? If it does than power amp Level4 would only give extra 200 damage right? By that account would it be better to slap on adrenaline 3 or cyclonics or shield regen 3. I'm not sure but I'd like to throw that out there for food for thought and discussion

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The point about wiping Prime Drones and Turrets - you can do that with 3 points in Slash as-well. Range is 20 meters as-well to match the Geth scanner.

Detonating Biotic Explosions is actually faster with Charge than Biotic Slash then proceed with PD.

So all in all - I will not spec into Biotic Slash more than 3 points. It's slow, it's boring and it's cheap.

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IamZAE wrote...

I have a question for all bsners including megabeast.... Does power amp actually boost phase disruptor shots? If it does than power amp Level4 would only give extra 200 damage right? By that account would it be better to slap on adrenaline 3 or cyclonics or shield regen 3. I'm not sure but I'd like to throw that out there for food for thought and discussion

 

Remember the 40% damage boots from Charge. 

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i believe its the power amp on the guns thats showing thru

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Air Quotes wrote...

The point about wiping Prime Drones and Turrets - you can do that with 3 points in Slash as-well. Range is 20 meters as-well to match the Geth scanner.

Detonating Biotic Explosions is actually faster with Charge than Biotic Slash then proceed with PD.


The first point, I agree with.

The second point... how do you figure that? Charge will only detonate 1 BE every 3 seconds... Slash can detonate up to 3 BE's every 3 seconds. Since Phase Disruptor doesn't detonate BE's... you comment make no sense to me buddy.

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Air Quotes wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

I have a question for all bsners including megabeast.... Does power amp actually boost phase disruptor shots? If it does than power amp Level4 would only give extra 200 damage right? By that account would it be better to slap on adrenaline 3 or cyclonics or shield regen 3. I'm not sure but I'd like to throw that out there for food for thought and discussion

 

Remember the 40% damage boots from Charge. 


i know that's good and juicy, but I'm wondering is the 200 flat damage boost to PD is worth it over adrenaline 3 or faster shield regen which. (Fast shield regen means you don't have to charge 100%) u can spam pd better.

a build I use to run was max fitness which included the 15% shield regen evo. Then I would slap on a multicapacitor. And also slap on a shield regen level 3. I didn't even need to charge lol. Shoot shoot pd pd pd pd pd pd pd shoot.

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IamZAE wrote...

I have a question for all bsners including megabeast.... Does power amp actually boost phase disruptor shots? If it does than power amp Level4 would only give extra 200 damage right? By that account would it be better to slap on adrenaline 3 or cyclonics or shield regen 3. I'm not sure but I'd like to throw that out there for food for thought and discussion


Power Amp IV should give 300 extra damage to Phase Disruptor IIRC.

Shield gear isn't needed unless you're talking about Shield Power Cells and packing a Falcon w/ Disruptor ammo or something like that.

Who need an Adrenaline 3 when you have Charge and the best dodge in the game...

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IamZAE wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

I have a question for all bsners including megabeast.... Does power amp actually boost phase disruptor shots? If it does than power amp Level4 would only give extra 200 damage right? By that account would it be better to slap on adrenaline 3 or cyclonics or shield regen 3. I'm not sure but I'd like to throw that out there for food for thought and discussion

 

Remember the 40% damage boots from Charge. 


i know that's good and juicy, but I'm wondering is the 200 flat damage boost to PD is worth it over adrenaline 3 or faster shield regen which. (Fast shield regen means you don't have to charge 100%) u can spam pd better.

a build I use to run was max fitness which included the 15% shield regen evo. Then I would slap on a multicapacitor. And also slap on a shield regen level 3. I didn't even need to charge lol. Shoot shoot pd pd pd pd pd pd pd shoot.


By doing that.... you're sacrificing 90% power damage... 50% from Power Amp IV and 40% from Charge's Power Synergy Evo.

If you want to play it super safe... then yeah, that would work... but I wouldn't do it personally.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 27 mars 2013 - 09:55 .


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megabeast37215 wrote...

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The point about wiping Prime Drones and Turrets - you can do that with 3 points in Slash as-well. Range is 20 meters as-well to match the Geth scanner.

Detonating Biotic Explosions is actually faster with Charge than Biotic Slash then proceed with PD.


The first point, I agree with.

The second point... how do you figure that? Charge will only detonate 1 BE every 3 seconds... Slash can detonate up to 3 BE's every 3 seconds. Since Phase Disruptor doesn't detonate BE's... you comment make no sense to me buddy.

 

Low level mooks will die faster with just a Charge and PD than BS. Plus you're invicible in Charge, while you're very vulnerable in BS, unless you're doing it behind walls. Well in that case I'll just play a Javelin GI 

P.S. Oh, and BTW, I use Bonus Power on my Slayer, so I can Charge 2-3-4 times in a row quite often. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 27 mars 2013 - 09:59 .