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[Archonsg]

I dislike the word "romance" and how it is perceived to be in today's games.
Essentially, dating sim light, get the gal/gay/being and bang slam thank you mam! And immediately after, forget anything ever happened.

Seriously, gimme a good long and drawn out "relationship" over a "romance" any day. If it leads to bed, all fine and good, but it should not the be the "be all, end all" of getting to know a character.

Modifié par Archonsg, 27 mars 2013 - 10:21 .

[Ryzaki]

Rikketik wrote...
Well, the game doesn't seem to count Shinji as a romance, and it helped me make my point if I didn't either, so...

But yeah, Shinji and FeMC totally had sex. It's a crime to ignore such powerful chemistry between two people.

I wasn't a big fan of Ryoji, though. And well, it seemed kind of weird to move on so fast after Shinji's 'death'. That's why I didn't romance Akihiko either. And Ken can go **** himself.

Pfft it totally does. YOu can have him hold femprotag on the rooftop in a NG+ (And if you don't romance anyone else during christmas if you slept with Shinji Junpei brings him up. Which really made me )

Yes yes it is. <3

Aww I loved Ryoji. He got a bit emo at times but...well I couldn't blame the guy. His life sucks. Hm...true but I loved Ryoji so much I headcanoned her romancing him to get over Shinji because he of all people wouldn't want her stewing in depression...and then January came and she pretty much threw up her arms and ran to Akihiko because **** everything at that point.

And Ken just nope nope nope. Nooooo in so many ways. I'd romance the original moon link dude before Ken. Least he's legal.

@OP yes romance adds some spice but the main lure of BW games to me is character interaction. (Without romance they'd hopefully have a lot more and varied character interaction). Either way I'd play them. They're fun

[shodiswe]

I didn't buy it for the romances, but I welcomed the content of it. Like I welcome a lot of added features and storytelling in a game.

[Megaton_Hope]

Lament for Thessia wrote...

Still, this is a game geared towards adults more or less so...why are people showering/getting intimate with their LI in their underwear.

I do think that's pretty weird. The shower particularly; I don't know who would enjoy the feeling of damp cotton next to their skin enough to make it a part of a romantic encounter.

[Khelish]

Tali'Zorah as a romantic interest for maleShep is a major factor as to why I love Mass Effect. Take that romance arc away? ugh...

Mass Effect would have felt lacking had there been no LI's, IMO.

[Rikketik]

Ryzaki wrote...

Pfft it totally does. YOu can have him hold femprotag on the rooftop in a NG+ (And if you don't romance anyone else during christmas if you slept with Shinji Junpei brings him up. Which really made me )

I knew about the rooftop thing, but I don't recall Junpei bringing that up during Christmas. Must've missed that somehow.

But it always bugged me that Shinji 'dies' and nobody even asks FeMC how she's doing, seeing as she and Shinji were pretty much a couple at that point. So when the game didn't acknowledge that, I just headcanon'd it as FeMC mourning in silence or something like that.

[Saberchic]

Honestly, I'm not sure. It depends on whether that meant they changed the interactions with your squaddies.

For instance, unless you romance someone, you usually can only get so far getting to know them. This means you get, what... 3 or 4 conversations at most? If they nixed the romances but then allowed for more deep friendships, I'd go for that. Otherwise, the relationships are pretty shallow.

[Ledgend1221]

Yeah.
Romances are only a side feautre.

[wright1978]

Possibly from the bargain bin. Wouldn't be collectors ed or full price day of release though.

[Vespervin]

Of course I would. I mean, who wouldn't? Sure, the game wouldn't be as good without them, but it would still be good.

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Not a chance

[Adoramei]

I'm a character building type of gal. I don't care so much about the sex scenes. I love the romances though. In fact, I design my characters with the plans for the romances from 1-3. Everything else falls in place beyond that.

So thinking about it.. I probably would not have played it, no. That's what really hooked me in. The gripping character interaction, the relationships developed there. I mean, yeah, it's great having great friends- but headcanoning a romance the whole way for a game and essentially buying a FPS just .. I don't see it interesting me so much. I'll be honest when I say that watching my fiance romance Tali in ME2 was really what hooked me in.

I was thrilled to hear that there was a romance in KOTOR. But come to think of it, I still would have played that. Hm.

So.. I honestly don't know for sure, but I'd lean toward no. Or at least, I would definitely not have gotten as emotionally invested in it.

[Ryzaki]

Rikketik wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Pfft it totally does. YOu can have him hold femprotag on the rooftop in a NG+ (And if you don't romance anyone else during christmas if you slept with Shinji Junpei brings him up. Which really made me )

I knew about the rooftop thing, but I don't recall Junpei bringing that up during Christmas. Must've missed that somehow.

But it always bugged me that Shinji 'dies' and nobody even asks FeMC how she's doing, seeing as she and Shinji were pretty much a couple at that point. So when the game didn't acknowledge that, I just headcanon'd it as FeMC mourning in silence or something like that.

Yep he brings it up on christmas when you come back into the dorm during the evening. Just make sure you haven't slept with anyone else :3 otherwise they'll probably override it.

Really? I could've sworn I got a few sympathetic remarks. Nothing earth shattering but talk to them in Tartarus afterwards. (and in the dormroom if you hadn't).

Though yeah there is a lack of mourning ah well both efemale and male PC seem to have a rather "hm..." reaction towards death. Probably explained by [spoiler].

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 mars 2013 - 11:17 .

[Nykara]

Archonsg wrote...

I dislike the word "romance" and how it is perceived to be in today's games.
Essentially, dating sim light, get the gal/gay/being and bang slam thank you mam! And immediately after, forget anything ever happened.

Seriously, gimme a good long and drawn out "relationship" over a "romance" any day. If it leads to bed, all fine and good, but it should not the be the "be all, end all" of getting to know a character.

Well I have to say that the Kaidan / Shepard romance if you do it over all three games really does feel like a relationship over a quicky romance. One of my favorite scenes in all of Mass Effect was that 'almost kiss' in ME1. I do agree though - I don't need a visible 'sex' scene to be in the game. I didn't hate it for sure it was natural progression for the characters but I do really like a good lead up to a relationship. Dancing around each other, chemistry, mush, stolen kisses etc all of that its one of my favorite things to watch in a TV program

I liked the Alistar romance in DA:O it felt like that. The Kaidan / Shep romance also felt that way - the should they or shouldn't they based on the fact that they were both Alliance Military and as it turned out they didn't consumate until right before a time in life for them that it seemed as if they may not come out of it - that made sense. There could hav e been a bit more lead up to it in the game overall though through the dialogue between them but at the end of the day it seemed right.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

 If you want love stories and romances go watch a movie or "adult entertainment".I play games for..the games

[valkulon]

I would still buy it as the romances in a game is not why I play RPGs.

[Adoramei]

Nykara wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

I dislike the word "romance" and how it is perceived to be in today's games.
Essentially, dating sim light, get the gal/gay/being and bang slam thank you mam! And immediately after, forget anything ever happened.

Seriously, gimme a good long and drawn out "relationship" over a "romance" any day. If it leads to bed, all fine and good, but it should not the be the "be all, end all" of getting to know a character.

Well I have to say that the Kaidan / Shepard romance if you do it over all three games really does feel like a relationship over a quicky romance. One of my favorite scenes in all of Mass Effect was that 'almost kiss' in ME1. I do agree though - I don't need a visible 'sex' scene to be in the game. I didn't hate it for sure it was natural progression for the characters but I do really like a good lead up to a relationship. Dancing around each other, chemistry, mush, stolen kisses etc all of that its one of my favorite things to watch in a TV program

I liked the Alistar romance in DA:O it felt like that. The Kaidan / Shep romance also felt that way - the should they or shouldn't they based on the fact that they were both Alliance Military and as it turned out they didn't consumate until right before a time in life for them that it seemed as if they may not come out of it - that made sense. There could hav e been a bit more lead up to it in the game overall though through the dialogue between them but at the end of the day it seemed right.

Exactly! I could never make my Shep "have fun" with someone casually. It's the same way I've looked at relationships in real life, and that personality trait carries over into games. In fact, my characters never sleep with anyone but my LI. In my headcanon, that LI is the only person that Shepard will ever have been in a physical relationship with even. I think that's my biggest reservation about romancing Garrus with the romance starting with a creepy, "Lets bang, k?" in response to his story about a casual sexual escapade. (And part of the reason why I'm still holding off on trying that one until much later. Gotta get over myself first.)

I guess it makes sense when you put it this way. That's why in DA:O, the only romance I'm interested in is with Alistair despite being more attracted to females. And why I loved Kaidan's romance. Can't even bring myself to switch romances, even after the whole Horizon blowup. (Which even looked like a breakup in my eyes, dang it.) Wouldn't do it in real life, and I wouldn't do it ingame. I even got a little irritated when Shepard got the mail from him saying that he'd casually been seeing a doctor at the behest of his friends. Mostly because I know that in modern society, I know what "dating" tends to mean. e_e He's a good guy and I feel like he gets emotionally invested before taking that step, so I got over that in 3.

But oh well.

Modifié par Adoramei, 28 mars 2013 - 12:15 .

[frostajulie]

yes but not across platforms and rather than buy my own copies I would borrow my brothers.

[thehomeworld]

You mean if they took out the romances for ME4's series and or game would I still play it? I'd be more unlikely too they already have me iffy about them so then they remove a part of the game that when done correctly can help the players to feel connected to the world and give them something more personal to protect. Protecting the galaxy is good but I've got a large brush and therefore don't care that much about this wide black space called the galaxy. Saving my home world is great if its actually Earth however if my homeworld is made up place like Astrica that I spent 5 minuites on then no I don't really care about it because there isn't anything to care for. Now my LI the person whom I fight with all game long I care about them and they care about saving the galaxy so I CARE about saving the galaxy. My LI cares about saving their homeworld and I'm little more interested in saving it I won't let their world get destroyed so long as I can do so. My LI more then my crewmembers or squad place a face to the world and make me want to save it. Removing that puts me back in the why should I care? Oh that's right the plot says I do so I guess I'll go para and save everybody.

If they're planning on doing a series they should also keep their LI's consistent no more Kaiden transformations and retcons make new characters that have similar qualities like they could've made up a new soilder ( not Vega) who was that soft spoken sensitive type of man but he'd be gay and unlike Kaiden who likes to go to quiet dinners this quiet man likes to go on roller coasters and takes an interest in shep's hobbies. Ok they can have some simularities but be different no need to retcon. LIs should be defined from the begining and stay that way if you want new option in the series as you go then new people can crop up and be recruitable if the player asks them to come along. There are core characters that are plot based and therefore aren't crew options but other npcs who can be for instance Tali, Liara, Garrus, and Mordin are plot essential their things influence the story present, future, and far future but Miranda, only influence ME2 so in ME3 she's an optional character and can be replaced by players choice in old non critcal characters like Jacob or she can be asked to join, Jack, Thane, and Kasumi's thing never did anything to effect the plot anywhere so these people would be optional additions but say I want to have Thane, John Doe, and Jane Asari instead so I ask them to join.

Miranda, Jack, Thane, Kasumi, Jacob, ect don't just get written off for the trilogy they just get to be options in ME3 but aren't required to the plot like Tali, Garrus, Mordin,and Liara are they still get moments, dialogue wheel one on ones, rare auto dialogue moments, personal issues for hero to solve they just are completely optional I can replace any of them with other npc's in the world who are qualified these of course BW would figure out looks and personalities on but they too would have the same attention given as non critical crewmembers would so they get moments, LI potentials, problems for hero to solve, dialogue wheel moments, rare auto dialogue, ect

[Shaleist]

I started playing ME after the third one had already pissed off the original player base....because it pissed them off. I knew a bad series would not illicit that kind of blowback so I reasoned it really must be a good series and I finnally jumped in. So hypothetically, if romance being removed would have hurt the fanbase...then maybe there would not have been AS passionate a reaponse to the crap endings....thus I would not ha e taken a second look. How is that for an answer?

[PsiMatrix]

xBornPredatrorx wrote...

Would you buy and still play the ME Series if it DID NOT have Romances in? The game is exactly the same as it is now, you could still be friends with your crew. It's just that everybody on the Normandy has Friendzoned poor old Shep. 

I'm just curious because I know how much romance adds to the game as well as how many Romance fans (Tali's, Garrus, Kaidan, Liara etc) are out there. It also is one of the things the game is known for and it adds depth to the characters.

So what would you do? Not buy the series at all?
Buy it, play through it once then sell it/never go on it again?
Or begrundingly play knowing you won't have hot blue alien sex again? (EDIT: ThIs was meant as a joke, I wasn't implying people would play through it simply for the sex scene)

Personally, I'd still play the game it just wouldn't be my favourite game series anymore and I'd be less inclined to run through the series as many times as I have now. 

EDIT: I saw this question briefly mentioned whilst on another topic on the DA wiki and the response seemed to be that they'd play the Game once then leave it. I was just curious what this fanbase response was to the question was.

Actually, I would've bought it sooner. The hysteria that flared up around that 1 second of bare butt put me off because it seemed like marketing was going for the pretendy-controversy type of sale. It was good as a feature of the game but it wasn't the sole reason for my buying it. I love the scifi setting. Kind of like how sex scenes in Jason movies is more so you know they're going to get killed first/right now.

Second reason is the rather (thankfully) short amount of benal LI dialogue that was in the first one: you could've removed it or skipped it and been none-the-wiser. On my most recent playthrough; I finally got the infamous threeway scene where both your potential LIs think that you're interested in them and confront you. It was cringe-worthy not by the option of going 'threesome?' but by the sheer idiocy of having two conversations with people and both thinking you were after them for sex/love. I'd chosen some of the neutral dialogue with Ashley while going for the upper-responses with Liara just to avoid her thinking I wanted to jump her. So aside from being a complete pig to her; you really can't avoid it. Talk about clingy.

ME2 did have better relationships but it culled the original 2/3 in favour of new ones which did get a lot of good options. There was a bit more to them but they still took a bit of a backseat. Thankfully there wasn't another sexual conlfict scene but there was the odd political one. ME3 got the balance right for default playthroughs but they sometimes do feel a little wierdly thought out especially given the backdrop is 'galactic peril'.

So yes; I'd still buy it.

[crimzontearz]

funny....without romances I might be less pissed about the endings

[Adoramei]

crimzontearz wrote...

funny....without romances I might be less pissed about the endings

I absolutely agree.