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[andy6915]

"That's what I meant too. I don't think it'd be the most powerful thing in the DA series yet."

The ONLY thing that could be a stronger being then a greater pride demon is the Maker himself... Which I guess could happen, a ton of games have had the "God" of that game's universe be the final boss.

Actually, there is one other thing that could be stronger: a dreamer/somniari mage possessed by greater pride demon, making an abomination out of that. That would be a being so powerful that even the Maker would tremble in fear before it. But that would be so powerful, that it wouldn't even be reasonable to expect it to be a boss in any form because no living person or group of people could challenge such a creature.

[Dean_the_Young]

Xilizhra wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Hybris was not one. I didn't see that thing being a walking end-times cataclysm.

We don't see abominations each being a threat to wipe out whole squads, either. The Codex has a tendency to exaggerate the strength of demons.

Or, more likely, game mechanics exaggerate the strength of humans and player characters.

[Wulfram]

I don't see why a greater pride demon would trump an old god/Archdemon. If the Old Gods aren't Pride Demons, anyway.

[BouncyFrag]

RedArmyShogun wrote...

Fookin lies, well have to fight the maker, aka Sandal.

I made this for the meme thread for when the truth is finally revealed.

[Volus Warlord]

BouncyFrag wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Why don't we make a bunch of bosses based off the seven deadly sins if we are going to do pride?

Not a bad idea. I wouldn't mind seeing what DA could do with a gluttony demon.

That's what they did with the first Overlord game, and I loved it.

But if Bioware did it, it'd be with Bioware's Seven Deadly Sins. They certainly wouldn't include lust, for starters. I wonder what Gaider's Seven Deadly Sins are. 

[andy6915]

Well Filament... That's how it is in Dragon Age. There's lesser, average, and greater versions of all demon types, and they go in that same order in terms of power. Greater pride demons do exist somewhere in the deep parts of the Fade, and they are on a whole different level compared to even the greater versions of any other type of demon in existence.

Sudden and freaky off-the-wall thought: The Maker IS a greater pride demon. That would be quite a plot twist.

[RedArmyShogun]

BouncyFrag wrote...

RedArmyShogun wrote...

Fookin lies, well have to fight the maker, aka Sandal.

I made this for the meme thread for when the truth is finally revealed.

Volus Warlord wrote...
. I wonder what Gaider's Seven Deadly Sins are.

Christianity lulz.

Modifié par RedArmyShogun, 28 mars 2013 - 08:08 .

[The Six Path of Pain]

Huh I always thought they were just talking about a regular old pride demon in that codex.But I love the thought of a superior version of a pride demon crossing the veil and causing the Fade equivalent of a blight

[Fast Jimmy]

Maria Caliban wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Ok...

So when is the final game of Dragon Age going to happen?

In the year 2525.

If man is still alive...
if woman can survive...

We may find...

[Fast Jimmy]

andy69156915 wrote...

"That's what I meant too. I don't think it'd be the most powerful thing in the DA series yet."

The ONLY thing that could be a stronger being then a greater pride demon is the Maker himself... Which I guess could happen, a ton of games have had the "God" of that game's universe be the final boss.

Actually, there is one other thing that could be stronger: a dreamer/somniari mage possessed by greater pride demon, making an abomination out of that. That would be a being so powerful that even the Maker would tremble in fear before it. But that would be so powerful, that it wouldn't even be reasonable to expect it to be a boss in any form because no living person or group of people could challenge such a creature.

And what if the Maker IS a greater pride demon?

After all, who has greater pride than those who are convinced a deity is on their side in all things? The surety of religion could be a huge source of power to a pride demon.

[Fast Jimmy]

andy69156915 wrote...

Well Filament... That's how it is in Dragon Age. There's lesser, average, and greater versions of all demon types, and they go in that same order in terms of power. Greater pride demons do exist somewhere in the deep parts of the Fade, and they are on a whole different level compared to even the greater versions of any other type of demon in existence.

Sudden and freaky off-the-wall thought: The Maker IS a greater pride demon. That would be quite a plot twist.

Ah. I guess I was ninja'd.

[andy6915]

That was pretty much the same thought path I took to get to that conclusion. The Maker being a greater pride demon actually would make sense if it turned out to be true. And a greater pride demon might very well have enough power to create an entire world for the sole purpose of feeding its pride.

It's not the point of the thread, but it's interesting to think about.

[Wulfram]

I'd rather have a Greater Pride Demon who went around calling himself the Maker than actually making it explicit that the Maker really is just a demon. Then you can leave it ambiguous as to who it was that Andraste had a chat to long ago.

Though maybe the demon Maker was who sent Leliana the vision, and that's why she's alive if she got killed in Origins.

Modifié par Wulfram, 28 mars 2013 - 09:08 .

[andy6915]

They've already done a blight. The only way they could make a blight interesting a second time is if they make it so that 2 archdemons wake up at once and do a double-blight and work together to try to destroy the world (and perfectly enough, there's only 2 left anyway after killing Origins archdemon). But I think that would be a bit... cliche? I don't know what word to use, I just don't think that would be as interesting as the greater pride demon idea. Especially seeing as the mage-Templar war has already laid the groundwork for it to happen later.

[Twisted Path]

There's all sorts of stuff in codex entries and the lore that gets contradicted, thrown out or ignored in the actual games. Don't read too much into it.

Edit: Also demons in the Dragon Age setting are kind of one-dimensional (which makes sense because they're sort of forces of nature,) so they would make pretty boring ultimate villains. Better to have a complex, thinking villain with plans and stuff.

Modifié par Twisted Path, 28 mars 2013 - 10:56 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Twisted Path wrote...

There's all sorts of stuff in codex entries and the lore that gets contradicted, thrown out or ignored in the actual games. Don't read too much into it.

Edit: Also demons in the Dragon Age setting are kind of one-dimensional (which makes sense because they're sort of forces of nature,) so they would make pretty boring ultimate villains. Better to have a complex, thinking villain with plans and stuff.

Given that Connor was possessed by a Desire demon who managed to take over a castle, organize raids and enslave the minds of others... and that Pride demons are much more cunning, powerful and intelligent... I'd say demons are not at all dumb or boring.

The Mage Origin should put that to rest, after all. Your Harrowing was basically one big facade by a Pride Demon trying to possess you.

[andy6915]

Exactly what he said^. Demons can be very cunning and destructive (and not just because of their raw power).

[Nightdragon8]

the 7 deadly sins are already in the game, so i dont see why they couldn't be... tho... I don't think the Sloth head demon will to many active roles. and if anything he would end up setting up alot of other fights just to make other weaker.

But the problem is I think that really the other spirts wouldn't stand for it. like the "vitruie's" side of the fade.

[KiwiQuiche]

Would be interesting...though I don't want it to mean "everyone is crazy due to demons or artifacts" that DA2 turned into.

Hmm, it would also tie in Sandal's prophesy, if the Fade breaks over the mundae world and the whole "here comes the magic" part

Though I wouldn't want to be able to kill the Pride demon, if it is truly an End Times creature. I would prefer it if all the PC could do would delay it, could trap it for a time. Eventually it would destroy the worlds, yet you can delay its actions, seal it or force it to sleep for a few centuries.

[mitthrawuodo]

Twisted Path wrote...

Edit: Also demons in the Dragon Age setting are kind of one-dimensional (which makes sense because they're sort of forces of nature,) so they would make pretty boring ultimate villains. Better to have a complex, thinking villain with plans and stuff.

A thinking villain is great as a secondary villian but often their not that good as a final boss fight. A big one dimensional villain is good in a game as they serve as a great boss fight and a clear onjective which gives the game focus. Also, Bioware have shown that they know how to do one dimensional big boss and clever complex secondary villain: Loghain, TIM and Saren where secondary compared to the Reapers and Archdemon

[andy6915]

So erm... Bump?

Modifié par andy69156915, 30 mars 2013 - 06:36 .

[Chiramu]

This plus a million other things should be the final encounters , encounters as in plural, there should be many. As any finale to a story it needs to have a grand conclusion.

One pride demon is merely not enough to end the story on.