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[StoneSwords]

txgoldrush wrote...

t_skwerl wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

t_skwerl wrote...

Another thing to take into account when comparing it to Bioshock, is that the Bioshock games aren't a trilogy. Each story has a different protagonist and each story is self contained. Mass Effect is very much a trilogy with the same characters. This ending might have worked if the story was one game, self contained, but as the end to a series, it falls flat on its face.

Wrong

The theme of sacrifice, established in ME1, became the main theme in ME3 (and ME2 Overlord and Arrival).

The ending dealt with themes portrayed throughout the series. Don't tell me the origin of the Catalyst did not connect with the themes of the series.

The fact is that the ending DOES indeed connect, its just that fans want to ignore this because it didn't end the way they wanted.

Your banner makes me disinclined to want to even attempt to refute this. The Catalyst is a huge deus ex machina thrown into the end of ME. You can tell me he's foreshadowed, and I may even agree with that to some extent, but I've already headcanoned that the little ******* never existed to begin with. If Harbinger can speak to Shep across billions of miles of space, then the "King" of the Reapers can certainly make Shep hallucinate a child being killed to gain sympathy if the two should ever meet. Which they did. But, that's an argument for another thread. Suffice it to say, there is a huge disconnect at the end of the game and most players will tell you, it's when they see the magic space elevator.

Harbinger is part of the Catalyst...the Catalyst is the consensus of EVERY Reaper. Or did you miss this.

There is no deus ex machina, and if there even was, it would be IN REVERSE, meaning Shepard came "out of nowhere" to solve the Catalyst's unsolvable problem.

Storywise, the kid came out of left field.  There were better and probably more satisfying ways to end out the trilogy than to shift focus like that at the last second.  Organics vs synthetics was always a background theme throughout the trilogy, but all of a sudden it became front and center in the last 15 minutes.  Pretty jarring if you ask me.

[Armass81]

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point? Are you so hung up with this game series that you seek any kind of answer which may appear some day maybe, or so you hope?

If this is so, id advise you seek help. Really.

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mai 2013 - 01:12 .

[txgoldrush]

StoneSwords wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

t_skwerl wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

t_skwerl wrote...

Another thing to take into account when comparing it to Bioshock, is that the Bioshock games aren't a trilogy. Each story has a different protagonist and each story is self contained. Mass Effect is very much a trilogy with the same characters. This ending might have worked if the story was one game, self contained, but as the end to a series, it falls flat on its face.

Wrong

The theme of sacrifice, established in ME1, became the main theme in ME3 (and ME2 Overlord and Arrival).

The ending dealt with themes portrayed throughout the series. Don't tell me the origin of the Catalyst did not connect with the themes of the series.

The fact is that the ending DOES indeed connect, its just that fans want to ignore this because it didn't end the way they wanted.

Your banner makes me disinclined to want to even attempt to refute this. The Catalyst is a huge deus ex machina thrown into the end of ME. You can tell me he's foreshadowed, and I may even agree with that to some extent, but I've already headcanoned that the little ******* never existed to begin with. If Harbinger can speak to Shep across billions of miles of space, then the "King" of the Reapers can certainly make Shep hallucinate a child being killed to gain sympathy if the two should ever meet. Which they did. But, that's an argument for another thread. Suffice it to say, there is a huge disconnect at the end of the game and most players will tell you, it's when they see the magic space elevator.

Harbinger is part of the Catalyst...the Catalyst is the consensus of EVERY Reaper. Or did you miss this.

There is no deus ex machina, and if there even was, it would be IN REVERSE, meaning Shepard came "out of nowhere" to solve the Catalyst's unsolvable problem.

Storywise, the kid came out of left field.  There were better and probably more satisfying ways to end out the trilogy than to shift focus like that at the last second.  Organics vs synthetics was always a background theme throughout the trilogy, but all of a sudden it became front and center in the last 15 minutes.  Pretty jarring if you ask me.

"Organics vs synthetics was always a background theme throughout the trilogy, but all of a sudden it became front and center in the last 15 minutes."

Wrong

Thats the context, not the conflict.

The conflict is one of sacrifice, Shepards opposition to the METHODS the Catalyst uses, not his MOTIVES.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 01 mai 2013 - 01:13 .

[Pee Jae]

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

 I'm not negative at all, nor did I say I felt betrayed. I simply said, as the (original) end to a trilogy, it falls flat on its face. The EC at least gives you some sense of closure, let's you know what happened, which was a lot of people's main complaint.

[Iakus]

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

[StoneSwords]

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

[Armass81]

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

You know why they wont adress the problems. Companies celebrate their successes and try to hush their failures. PR as usual. Im pretty sure they are aware of the reaction, they just wanna pretend like its just a minor thing and everyhting is fine. 

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mai 2013 - 01:20 .

[StoneSwords]

Armass81 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

You know why they wont adress the problems. Companies celebrate their successes and try to hush their failures. PR as usual. Im pretty sure they are aware of the reaction, they just wanna pretend like they arent and everyhting is fine. 

This I will definitly agree with.

[txgoldrush]

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Or that you simply did not get it.....its not that complicated.

What is Shepard actually arguing aginst the Catalyst? What is she arguing to him about? Simple question.

[Armass81]

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired. Theres alot of things wrong, you indeed do not bring a new character in the last 10 minutes of the story, this is writing 101.

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mai 2013 - 01:25 .

[Iakus]

Armass81 wrote...

You know why they wont adress the problems. Companies celebrate their successes and try to hush their failures. PR as usual. Im pretty sure they are aware of the reaction, they just wanna pretend like its just a minor thing and everyhting is fine. 

True enough, but even the DA2 team admitted things didn't work out as well as they'd planned.  And personally, I don't think they screwed up nealy as badly as ME3 did.  

Even a nothing statement like  "Mass Effect 3 proved to be a learning experience for us, and we intend to use what we learned to make even better games in the future' would have been something.  Rather than blowing off people who disliked the ending as unworthy of notice.

[StoneSwords]

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired.

I'll agree with this somewhat too.  I still don't agree with the kid's reasoning, but maybe if the ending of ME3 had been executed differently, it might have gone over better in general than it has

[Armass81]

StoneSwords wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired.

I'll agree with this somewhat too.  I still don't agree with the kid's reasoning, but maybe if the ending of ME3 had been executed differently, it might have gone over better in general than it has

The reasoning works on some level, its brutal galactic gardening to put it simply. Problem for players is that thsi hadnt been really showed or experienced, it was only told. Another problem is this is told by the leader of your main enemies, who are known for their manipulation attempts. The execution is ****** poor.

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mai 2013 - 01:34 .

[StoneSwords]

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired.

I'll agree with this somewhat too.  I still don't agree with the kid's reasoning, but maybe if the ending of ME3 had been executed differently, it might have gone over better in general than it has

The reasoning works on some level, its brutal galactic gardening. Problem for players is that thsi hadnt been really showed or experienced, it was only told. Another problem is this is told by the leader of your main enemies, who are known for their manipulation attempts. The execution is ****** poor.

IMO, for this to work at all though, there would need to be more hints and foreshadowing starting as far back as ME 1.  I never in my wildest dreams imagined that the final 15 minutes of the trilogy would boil down to organics vs synthetics until the kid was standing in front of me

[Iakus]

Armass81 wrote...

The reasoning works on some level, its brutal galactic gardening to put it simply. Problem for players is that thsi hadnt been really showed or experienced, it was only told. Another problem is this is told by the leader of your main enemies, who are known for their manipulation attempts. The execution is ****** poor.

Not to mention it forces SHepard to stoop to using the Reapers' own tactics to 'win"

[Armass81]

StoneSwords wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired.

I'll agree with this somewhat too.  I still don't agree with the kid's reasoning, but maybe if the ending of ME3 had been executed differently, it might have gone over better in general than it has

The reasoning works on some level, its brutal galactic gardening. Problem for players is that thsi hadnt been really showed or experienced, it was only told. Another problem is this is told by the leader of your main enemies, who are known for their manipulation attempts. The execution is ****** poor.

IMO, for this to work at all though, there would need to be more hints and foreshadowing starting as far back as ME 1.  I never in my wildest dreams imagined that the final 15 minutes of the trilogy would boil down to organics vs synthetics until the kid was standing in front of me

Only real hints for this being a galactic problem that stretched back ages was from the Pashek VI and Javik.

[Armass81]

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

The reasoning works on some level, its brutal galactic gardening to put it simply. Problem for players is that thsi hadnt been really showed or experienced, it was only told. Another problem is this is told by the leader of your main enemies, who are known for their manipulation attempts. The execution is ****** poor.

Not to mention it forces SHepard to stoop to using the Reapers' own tactics to 'win"

You still do win.

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mai 2013 - 01:40 .

[Iakus]

Armass81 wrote...

You still do win.

Not in the fun way.  Not like a game is supposed to be.  More like the "I just showered and still feel unclean" way.

[Armass81]

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

You still do win.

Not in the fun way.  Not like a game is supposed to be.  More like the "I just showered and still feel unclean" way.

Sometimes victory comes with a cost. If youre not ready to make sacrfices, hard as they might be, then maybe you should put your adventuring hat down.

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mai 2013 - 01:48 .

[txgoldrush]

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired. Theres alot of things wrong, you indeed do not bring a new character in the last 10 minutes of the story, this is writing 101.

Plenty of stories do bring a new character in the last minute....especially if they are spoilers.

[Armass81]

txgoldrush wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired. Theres alot of things wrong, you indeed do not bring a new character in the last 10 minutes of the story, this is writing 101.

Plenty of stories do bring a new character in the last minute....especially if they are spoilers.

Not what i would do without some proper foreshadowing.

[Iakus]

Armass81 wrote...

Sometimes victory comes with a cost. If youre not ready to make sacrfices, hard as they might be, then maybe you should put your adventuring hat down.

Gonna let you in on a little secret here.

I am not, an adventurer.  If Earth ever got invaded by space Cthulhu, they'll have to look elsewhere for a savior.
o
I do, however, play video games.  And video games are not real life 

[StoneSwords]

txgoldrush wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired. Theres alot of things wrong, you indeed do not bring a new character in the last 10 minutes of the story, this is writing 101.

Plenty of stories do bring a new character in the last minute....especially if they are spoilers.

And in some instances, it works, but in this instance, it just came off as completely jarring and disjointed from the main plot and themes of the ME trilogy

[txgoldrush]

StoneSwords wrote...


IMO, for this to work at all though, there would need to be more hints and foreshadowing starting as far back as ME 1.  I never in my wildest dreams imagined that the final 15 minutes of the trilogy would boil down to organics vs synthetics until the kid was standing in front of me

You really are not getting it.

Once again, THATS THE CONTEXT, NOT THE CONFLICT!!!!!

The ending is about confronting those who would systematically sacrifice others forcifully to achieve their goals and putting and end to it, no matter the cost.

Thats BOTH the Catalyst AND The Illusive Man.

[txgoldrush]

StoneSwords wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

StoneSwords wrote...

iakus wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Also can I just ask, Iakus. You said ME3 has rendered the entire trilogy pointless, you know theyre not going to change the ending anymore, since their making new games now and Montreal is on the next ME game. So why linger here with all this depression and negativity? This goes for everyone who is so betrayed, they cant stand it. Why? Whats the point?

Two reasons:

1) MEHEM is still being worked on, and I find myself returning here to keep up with it.

2) There's no DA3 info to talk about yet.

And I admit, a part of me also wants to keep voicing the depths of my (and others') disappoiment.  The developers already barely acknowledge there was ever a problem to begin with.  If all they hear is unquestioning praise from the likes of txgoldrush and others, they might just rewrite history entirely.  Already I fear a repeat of ME3's ending.

The fact that people such as txgoldrush have to think this hard, and dig this deep to attempt to explain to the rest of us why the ending is fine as is, speaks volumes

Never said it was fine, I said I understand what they tried to accomplish. The execution left a lot to be desired. Theres alot of things wrong, you indeed do not bring a new character in the last 10 minutes of the story, this is writing 101.

Plenty of stories do bring a new character in the last minute....especially if they are spoilers.

And in some instances, it works, but in this instance, it just came off as completely jarring and disjointed from the main plot and themes of the ME trilogy

Yet he was foreshadowed and so was the themes the ending portrays.