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[IllusiveManJr]

Vindicator is a boss killer.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Mirenko wrote...

You just told the guy who solo'd platinum on day 1,( the first one  on PC )to learn to play and the one who has been soloing gold since demo and one of the best players on this side. lol

And..? Am I soppose to be impressed by something? Perhaps someone who see's soloing platinum for what it really is, a person playing the game by themselves not accomplishing anything that 4 (competent) players can do in a much faster time for same results has a different perspective than someone who sees something magic and special in soloing. Only person who's solos I was even interested in watching were Moi's, and thats because unlike everyone else, he actually works. Soloing platinum is dumb, soloing altogether is dumb, there is no skill in soloing in this game, just playing as usuall for a longer period of time. If you see something more in it, its because you have flaws to where someone doing something normal comes off as impressive.

Back to the topic.

Mirenko wrote...

What you have said is wrong, the DoT starts when you stop firing your weapon dude.

AP ammo > Incendiary ammo for instant damage
Incendiary > AP ammo after you stop firing and wait for the DoT to outdamage by a little margin AP ammo, so it doesn't worth you know, because it's slower.

You sir, need to learn to play this game.

Perhaps Its not that I need to learn to play this game as much as you and redjohn need to learn to comprehend what your reading, I'll post it http://social.biowar...85477#15885477' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>AGAIN since you guys seem to be missing things.


http://social.biowar...85477#15885477' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/15885477#15885477

Like I said before as well. If you guys are encountering a hault in incendiary DoT until you stop firing, then its a PC only thing. (only played PC one day, and god you guys have it way to easy to complain about anything)

Edit-Link seems to be screwy

Modifié par Ronnie Blastoff, 29 mars 2013 - 06:54 .

[NuclearTech76]

Tell you what post proof that incendiary takes down a target in a faster time period than AP with the same set up. It will not happen because you can't.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Kalas Magnus wrote...

HeavysetRJ wrote...

Remember when RedJohn was the nice, helpful guy instead of a total attention ****?

nope

lol

[me0120]

It's been over 15 minutes. Can we get the link to the numbers?

[me0120]

 I got tired of waiting. Here's a quote from Peddro's Warp + Inc. ammo glitch thread.

peddroelmz wrote...

UNLIKE THE OTHER AMMO TYPES INCENDIARY AMMO WILL CAUSE NEXT TO NO DAMAGE TO TARGETS WHILE YOUR AUTO WEAPON KEEPS FIRING ON THE TARGET (incendiary just builds up power)...So if you keep firing until target dies to weapon fire - it would be almost like you are using no ammo consumable at all ... AFTER YOU STOP FIRING AT THE TARGET - INCENDIARY AMMO WILL DO MOST OF ITS BUG INFLATED DAMAGE over a period of 3 seconds ... So using incendiary ammo with a automatic weapon involves shooting the target until it gets to mid/low health and then switching to another target (at which point all the built up potential of incendiary kicks in and kills the old target)... 

[NuclearTech76]

What are the approximate chances he stops before embarrassing himself further?

[Muhkida]

Annomander wrote...

The spitfire isn't bad.

Stop saying it's bad. Sure, your harrier hits harder, but then again your harrier requires a trip to the ammo box before it's managed to kill anything... making the spitfire the more efficient boss killing option.

Going to test my Spitfire again with my GE. 

Just out of curiosity though, why use the Extended Magazine weapon mod for this gun? 

[N7-RedFox]

RedJohn wrote...

Period.

It is very good against mooks.

It can take down 2 Possessed Praetorians with 1 clip if you use extended magazine, and I think it could kill another one if you have the oportunity.



Come at me.

It's rather good on Bronze isn't it?

[DarthSliver]

RedJohn wrote...

Period.

It is very good against mooks.

It can take down 2 Possessed Praetorians with 1 clip if you use extended magazine, and I think it could kill another one if you have the oportunity.



Come at me.

As long as you Juggernaut with the gun than its a Boss Killer

[me0120]

Muhkida wrote...

Annomander wrote...

The spitfire isn't bad.

Stop saying it's bad. Sure, your harrier hits harder, but then again your harrier requires a trip to the ammo box before it's managed to kill anything... making the spitfire the more efficient boss killing option.

Going to test my Spitfire again with my GE. 

Just out of curiosity though, why use the Extended Magazine weapon mod for this gun? 

So you can push down on the trigger, go and make a sandwich, fill up a glass of milk, walk the dog, come back and reload. It's not like your character is going to be moving while shooting anyway.

[BridgeBurner]

Muhkida wrote...

Annomander wrote...

The spitfire isn't bad.

Stop saying it's bad. Sure, your harrier hits harder, but then again your harrier requires a trip to the ammo box before it's managed to kill anything... making the spitfire the more efficient boss killing option.

Going to test my Spitfire again with my GE. 

Just out of curiosity though, why use the Extended Magazine weapon mod for this gun? 

Magazine is the best option for the 2nd mod:

Omni blade is ok, as sometimes I do finish stuff off with melee, but not worth it over EM

Thermal scope is complete garbage

ULM is complete garbage

HVB is pointless if you have AP IV

Piercing mod is pointless if you're using AP IV

Precision scope is garbage

Stability dampener is garbage, as mouse control allows you to mitigate any amout of recoil with relative ease...


Leaving you with magazine upgrade and damage barrel as the only 2 useful mods for most ARs.

Modifié par Annomander, 29 mars 2013 - 08:06 .

[RedJohn]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Mirenko wrote...

You just told the guy who solo'd platinum on day 1,( the first one  on PC )to learn to play and the one who has been soloing gold since demo and one of the best players on this side. lol

And..? Am I soppose to be impressed by something? Perhaps someone who see's soloing platinum for what it really is, a person playing the game by themselves not accomplishing anything that 4 (competent) players can do in a much faster time for same results has a different perspective than someone who sees something magic and special in soloing. Only person who's solos I was even interested in watching were Moi's, and thats because unlike everyone else, he actually works. Soloing platinum is dumb, soloing altogether is dumb, there is no skill in soloing in this game, just playing as usuall for a longer period of time. If you see something more in it, its because you have flaws to where someone doing something normal comes off as impressive.

Back to the topic.

Mirenko wrote...

What you have said is wrong, the DoT starts when you stop firing your weapon dude.

AP ammo > Incendiary ammo for instant damage
Incendiary > AP ammo after you stop firing and wait for the DoT to outdamage by a little margin AP ammo, so it doesn't worth you know, because it's slower.

You sir, need to learn to play this game.

Perhaps Its not that I need to learn to play this game as much as you and redjohn need to learn to comprehend what your reading, I'll post it http://social.biowar...85477#15885477' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>AGAIN since you guys seem to be missing things.


http://social.biowar...85477#15885477' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/15885477#15885477

Like I said before as well. If you guys are encountering a hault in incendiary DoT until you stop firing, then its a PC only thing. (only played PC one day, and god you guys have it way to easy to complain about anything)

Edit-Link seems to be screwy

The tests were made on PC, so it's not a "PC" thing.

Besides: http://social.biowar...3200/1#14033200

UNLIKE THE OTHER AMMO TYPES INCENDIARY AMMO WILL CAUSE NEXT TO NO DAMAGE TO TARGETS WHILE YOUR AUTO WEAPON KEEPS FIRING ON THE TARGET (incendiary just builds up power)...So if you keep firing until target dies to weapon fire - it would be almost like you are using no ammo consumable at all ... AFTER YOU STOP FIRING AT THE TARGET - INCENDIARY AMMO WILL DO MOST OF ITS BUG INFLATED DAMAGE over a period of 3 seconds ... So using incendiary ammo with a automatic weapon involves shooting the target until it gets to mid/low health and then switching to another target (at which point all the built up potential of incendiary kicks in and kills the old target)... 

Now you see what peddro said?

You misunderstood all the things.

If you still think you are right please go to play the game, take your Typhoon X, equip AP ammo IV, jump into platinum and kill the atlas, then try with incendiary and tell me if it was faster

Modifié par RedJohn, 29 mars 2013 - 08:55 .

[Ronnie Blastoff]

RedJohn wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Mirenko wrote...

You just told the guy who solo'd platinum on day 1,( the first one  on PC )to learn to play and the one who has been soloing gold since demo and one of the best players on this side. lol

And..? Am I soppose to be impressed by something? Perhaps someone who see's soloing platinum for what it really is, a person playing the game by themselves not accomplishing anything that 4 (competent) players can do in a much faster time for same results has a different perspective than someone who sees something magic and special in soloing. Only person who's solos I was even interested in watching were Moi's, and thats because unlike everyone else, he actually works. Soloing platinum is dumb, soloing altogether is dumb, there is no skill in soloing in this game, just playing as usuall for a longer period of time. If you see something more in it, its because you have flaws to where someone doing something normal comes off as impressive.

Back to the topic.

Mirenko wrote...

What you have said is wrong, the DoT starts when you stop firing your weapon dude.

AP ammo > Incendiary ammo for instant damage
Incendiary > AP ammo after you stop firing and wait for the DoT to outdamage by a little margin AP ammo, so it doesn't worth you know, because it's slower.

You sir, need to learn to play this game.

Perhaps Its not that I need to learn to play this game as much as you and redjohn need to learn to comprehend what your reading, I'll post it http://social.biowar...85477#15885477' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>AGAIN since you guys seem to be missing things.


http://social.biowar...85477#15885477' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/15885477#15885477

Like I said before as well. If you guys are encountering a hault in incendiary DoT until you stop firing, then its a PC only thing. (only played PC one day, and god you guys have it way to easy to complain about anything)

Edit-Link seems to be screwy

The tests were made on PC, so it's not a "PC" thing.

Besides: http://social.biowar...3200/1#14033200

UNLIKE THE OTHER AMMO TYPES INCENDIARY AMMO WILL CAUSE NEXT TO NO DAMAGE TO TARGETS WHILE YOUR AUTO WEAPON KEEPS FIRING ON THE TARGET (incendiary just builds up power)...So if you keep firing until target dies to weapon fire - it would be almost like you are using no ammo consumable at all ... AFTER YOU STOP FIRING AT THE TARGET - INCENDIARY AMMO WILL DO MOST OF ITS BUG INFLATED DAMAGE over a period of 3 seconds ... So using incendiary ammo with a automatic weapon involves shooting the target until it gets to mid/low health and then switching to another target (at which point all the built up potential of incendiary kicks in and kills the old target)... 

Now you see what peddro said?

You misunderstood all the things.

If you still think you are right please go to play the game, take your Typhoon X, equip AP ammo IV, jump into platinum and kill the atlas, then try with incendiary and tell me if it was faster

SO wait you actually read the link, then still pull up an old OUTDATED link trying to prove yourself something other than what you are, WRONG?

Which one is updated, which one says NEW INFO and which one is almost 5 months old? Did you even read that part?

Yea I thought so, you guys are retards.

Thank you for trying to sound like you know what your talking about. Now come up with something else to make yourself feel smart... pathetic. Learn to read....

[Amusingthree93]

How about someone just go ahead and make a video to resolve the incendiary vs AP ammo arguement?

(personally I think AP kills faster than incendiary as it delivers damage instantly. I dont see why it would be otherwise)

[january42]

Annomander wrote...

Magazine is the best option for the 2nd mod:

Omni blade is ok, as sometimes I do finish stuff off with melee, but not worth it over EM

Thermal scope is complete garbage

ULM is complete garbage

HVB is pointless if you have AP IV

Piercing mod is pointless if you're using AP IV

Precision scope is garbage

Stability dampener is garbage, as mouse control allows you to mitigate any amout of recoil with relative ease...


Leaving you with magazine upgrade and damage barrel as the only 2 useful mods for most ARs.

Of course, the clip size is 220 and the ROF is 600. So 10 rounds a second. So it takes 22 seconds to empty the BASE clip.  How often can you go 22 seconds without getting shot at anyway? Maybe if your playing with 2 other juggernauts and a krolord.   It's over 10 seconds with marksman.

Barrel + Pierce allows you to use incendiary ammo.
Edit: Actuall pierce + warp may be the best combination.  10% more damage and 100% armor mitigation. (I though that it only took the best one, but everyone seems to say they stack now. oh well)


Extended Mag gives you 396 ammo, or almost 40 seconds of firing. Anything that lets you shoot at it that long deserves to die really.

Modifié par january42, 29 mars 2013 - 10:58 .

[Frozen Mind]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Yea I thought so, you guys are retards.

Mhmm... I just...

[Ronnie Blastoff]

For those who still fail to make use of the braincells they have here is the spreadsheet of peddros Incendiary IV Vs Armor Piercing IV test.

https://docs.google....BtM0pteVE#gid=0

Notice how the incendiary damage starts after the 1st shot?
Notice how after 3 seconds worth of continuous fire that incendiary ammo starts to outdamage armor piercing ammo?

If you don't lol go fudge yourselfs.

Incendiary ammo > armor piercing ammo for all targets that take longer than around 3 seconds to drop. (everything in gold/platinum besides husk and swarmers for RoF guns such as the spitfire...) as peddro even mentions in the original and UPDATED INCENDIARY AMMO POST

http://social.biowar...885477#15885477

Unlike you idiots with your heads so far up a horses bootycheeks, I actually play the game, (most likely longer than many of you put together) and from actuall experience using incendiary ammo instead of thinking armor piercing ammo is worth anything, I pay attention to how long it takes to drop targets.

[DHKany]

Oh yeah give me some more Personal Insults!
It totally does not make you look any more douchier!

Modifié par DHKany, 29 mars 2013 - 11:42 .

[Ronnie Blastoff]

DHKany wrote...

Oh yeah give some more Personal Insults!
It totally does not make you look any more douchier!

My avatars name is ronnie blastoff, I have a picture of a homosexual video game character as my avatar. I don't care how I look. Especially to a bunch of people I don't know, don't really care to know, and probably will never meet. Just stating facts, how they come out may sound harsh to some, I on the other hand have enough sense to know that someone tossing insults online is worth about as much as stray cats farting tuna in the form of song.

Get over it.



Disclaimer
Not meaning to insult anyone directly, but don't be "silly" and I won't come off as a douch

[DHKany]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Oh yeah give some more Personal Insults!
It totally does not make you look any more douchier!

My avatars name is ronnie blastoff, I have a picture of a homosexual video game character as my avatar. I don't care how I look. Especially to a bunch of people I don't know, don't really care to know, and probably will never meet. Just stating facts, how they come out may sound harsh to some, I on the other hand have enough sense to know that someone tossing insults online is worth about as much as stray cats farting tuna in the form of song.

Get over it.

Disclaimer
Not meaning to insult anyone directly, but don't be "silly" and I won't come off as a douch

Not sure if trolling or not about first bit. 

You aren't harsh you are just downright insulting people at this point, even if it is on the internet. 

Try a less hot headed approach. 

[juanjo_dpr9]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. One of the most stupid posys I've seen in the last month. How can a weapon which needs like 450 bullets be good against a boss? I think the Avenger or the Incisor are better hahahaha. Keep the good work dude, you are making me laugh a lot along a lot of people.

[DHKany]

juanjo_dpr9 wrote...

HAHAHAHAHAHA. One of the most stupid posys I've seen in the last month. How can a weapon which needs like 450 bullets be good against a boss? I think the Avenger or the Incisor are better hahahaha. Keep the good work dude, you are making me laugh a lot along a lot of people.

[Muhkida]

juanjo_dpr9 wrote...

HAHAHAHAHAHA. One of the most stupid posys I've seen in the last month. How can a weapon which needs like 450 bullets be good against a boss? I think the Avenger or the Incisor are better hahahaha. Keep the good work dude, you are making me laugh a lot along a lot of people.

juanjo_derp would have been a more appropriate profile name...