Don't know if anyone mentioned this but....The woman who may possibly be Alistair's mom was tainted when she was pregnant with him (The Calling). In fact, it was as if the pregnancy purged the taint from her.. I believe Alistair has a resistance to it and he won't have a Calling, honestly. So him turning into some crazy ghoul seems like a plausible route, lol...
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#77
Posté 23 juin 2013 - 01:16
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Not really, lots of grey wardens have the blood of dragons. They use a drop of Archdemon blood in the joining ritual. Also Old Gods are in another category to High Dragons being a step above them.
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 08:18
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sandalisthemaker wrote...
So what you're saying is... Alistair is the Dovahkiin of the DA universe?
+ templar training.
So Alistair is reaver+templar+grey Warden .. and probaly more
He's like a fantastic 4 combined into one man.
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 08:41
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This also confuses me: Alistair is a Grey Warden, he is bound to serve the order. But if he is King of Ferelden, does this mean his duties as a Grey Warden become void or is he still bound to the Order? If we got a Grey Warden as King of Ferelden, how does that bode well in manners of speaking referring to the power of which the Grey Wardens hold over Ferelden?
It's just confusing on if Alistair was made King, does his loyalties revert back to his homeland or remain with the Grey Wardens?
It's just confusing on if Alistair was made King, does his loyalties revert back to his homeland or remain with the Grey Wardens?
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 09:44
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If Alistair is dead can;t we just see his spirit in the fade if there is a fade quest, maybe he can send us on a cheese huntAllan Schumacher wrote...
I totally embrace fan tears.
Any thoughts on an alternative in case Alistair is dead in someone's game? Or do you think it can be contained enough to be its own side plot and not deny someone too much content?
#81
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 09:57
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Don't almost all Grey Wardens already have the blood of dragons in them, since the joining chalice contains blood from an Archdemon? Alistair is no more a threat than any other Warden.
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 10:24
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In my opinion people who kill or allow to die, characters in their play through should miss out on content this will make those decisions more meaningful. I kill Loghain in every playthrough and wouldn't care if all those deluded Loghain lovers got extra content featuring him.
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 11:16
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Fetunche wrote...
In my opinion people who kill or allow to die, characters in their play through should miss out on content this will make those decisions more meaningful. I kill Loghain in every playthrough and wouldn't care if all those deluded Loghain lovers got extra content featuring him.
As long as there are actual consequences for either killing or not killing someone....at least sometimes
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 12:05
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If Alistar is actually becoming corrupt and such and in DA:I this is supposed to show . . . and his dead in the save . . .
ZOMBIE ALISTAR, DO IT!
ZOMBIE ALISTAR, DO IT!
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 12:52
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Lotion Soronnar wrote...
sandalisthemaker wrote...
So what you're saying is... Alistair is the Dovahkiin of the DA universe?
+ templar training.
So Alistair is reaver+templar+grey Warden .. and probaly more
He's like a fantastic 4 combined into one man.
Andraste's ass, Alistair is the Super Skrull
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 05:13
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If Al has dragon blood, can he use the Thu'um?
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 05:41
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MadCat221 wrote...
If Al has dragon blood, can he use the Thu'um?
Does he also have a dragon soul?
If he has dragon blood, does that also mean fire cannot kill him? The Targaryens are deeply offended by his dragon blood claim.
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 05:58
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Also I just remembered: doesn't any reaver in the setting have dragon blood, too? Therefore any reaver Grey Warden would be just as dangerous as Alistair.
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 06:40
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A question... Did Calenhad actually make like a Reaver, with all the crazy redline-pushing, or did he simply become highly empowered by imbibing the dragon blood?
I think that "Drinking Dragon Blood = Reaver" is as erroneous as "Apostate = Maleficar", TBH.
I think that "Drinking Dragon Blood = Reaver" is as erroneous as "Apostate = Maleficar", TBH.
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#90
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 06:49
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sandalisthemaker wrote...
So what you're saying is... Alistair is the Dovahkiin of the DA universe?
If Alistair happens to be a walking manifestation of a god... Then perhaps.
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Posté 24 juin 2013 - 07:22
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Well putting your lips on a dragon's artery and sucking like a sorority sister may not make you a reaver, as there could be some other magic or alchemical woo-woo involved in, but all reavers definitely have dragon blood in them, so that's gotta count for something.MadCat221 wrote...
A question... Did Calenhad actually make like a Reaver, with all the crazy redline-pushing, or did he simply become highly empowered by imbibing the dragon blood?
I think that "Drinking Dragon Blood = Reaver" is as erroneous as "Apostate = Maleficar", TBH.
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 06:15
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I haven't read the comics. I'm curious how the dragon blood got in his family.
(But then again those high dragons were quite fetching..so maybe I understand.)
(But then again those high dragons were quite fetching..so maybe I understand.)
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 06:31
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Eveangaline wrote...
I haven't read the comics. I'm curious how the dragon blood got in his family.
King Calenhad — he who united the warring tribes of Ferelden — was apparently a reaver. He got his powers from drinking the blood of a high dragon.
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#94
Posté 27 juin 2013 - 06:34
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thats1evildude wrote...
Eveangaline wrote...
I haven't read the comics. I'm curious how the dragon blood got in his family.
King Calenhad was apparently a reaver. Got his powers from drinking the blood of a high dragon.
I think "Reaver" is a bit of a stretch. He is a Reaver if the only requirement is to drink dragon blood. Do we see him going all crazy blood-spray redline in a fight?
Just like how Wynne is an "abomination" if the only condition of that is possession by a fade entity.
All we know is that Calenhad may have drank a dragon blood concoction and was physically empowered by it.
Modifié par MadCat221, 27 juin 2013 - 06:37 .
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 06:37
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There are warriors who have learned to emulate reaver abilities, but a true reaver has tasted the ritually-prepared blood of a dragon.
The comic only shows Calenhad chugging dragon blood in a flashback, so no, there's no demonstration of his combat abilities. But the dude was a reaver, all the same.
The qunari may be wrong, but it seems doubtful. Maric and Alistair had to get dragon blood somehow.
The comic only shows Calenhad chugging dragon blood in a flashback, so no, there's no demonstration of his combat abilities. But the dude was a reaver, all the same.
MadCat221 wrote...
All we know is that Calenhad may have drank a dragon blood concoction and was physically empowered by it.
The qunari may be wrong, but it seems doubtful. Maric and Alistair had to get dragon blood somehow.
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 06:45
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thats1evildude wrote...
There are warriors who have learned to emulate reaver abilities, but a true reaver has tasted the ritually-prepared blood of a dragon.
The comic only shows Calenhad chugging dragon blood in a flashback, so no, there's no demonstration of his combat abilities. But the dude was a reaver, all the same.MadCat221 wrote...
All we know is that Calenhad may have drank a dragon blood concoction and was physically empowered by it.
The qunari may be wrong, but it seems doubtful. Maric and Alistair had to get dragon blood somehow.
Are mages automatically blood mages because they have the pre-requisite magical empowerment for it?
Are Maric, Cailan and Alistair reavers since this "blood of the dragon" is apparently hereditary?
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 06:57
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What's to debate here? If you accept the evidence as presented, Calenhad drank live dragon blood as part of a ritual, which is the pre-requisite for the specialization. Not all warriors are Reavers, but all warriors who drink ritualistically-prepared dragon blood definitely are Reavers. What's the purpose of questioning that fact?
As for Alistair and Maric, I don't think they count since all they have is some lingering trace of the dragon's blood left in them.
As for Alistair and Maric, I don't think they count since all they have is some lingering trace of the dragon's blood left in them.
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 06:57
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honestly it's an interesting idea. I have no clue whether it's really hereditary or not, but the idea of him mutating when he reaches his Calling is a pretty cool possibility.
(also if alistair is dead in your game, then he's dead and the contents of the thread shouldn't have any bearing on your custom game, so I'm not sure why people are even attempting to bring up "but I had him killed!!")
(also if alistair is dead in your game, then he's dead and the contents of the thread shouldn't have any bearing on your custom game, so I'm not sure why people are even attempting to bring up "but I had him killed!!")
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 07:02
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thats1evildude wrote...
What's to debate here? If you accept the evidence as presented, Calenhad drank live dragon blood as part of a ritual, which is the pre-requisite for the specialization. Not all warriors are Reavers, but all warriors who drink ritualistically-prepared dragon blood definitely are Reavers. What's the purpose of questioning that fact?
As for Alistair and Maric, I don't think they count since all they have is some lingering trace of the dragon's blood left in them.
So.... dismissal instead of refutation.
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 07:08
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MadCat221 wrote...
thats1evildude wrote...
What's to debate here? If you accept the evidence as presented, Calenhad drank live dragon blood as part of a ritual, which is the pre-requisite for the specialization. Not all warriors are Reavers, but all warriors who drink ritualistically-prepared dragon blood definitely are Reavers. What's the purpose of questioning that fact?
As for Alistair and Maric, I don't think they count since all they have is some lingering trace of the dragon's blood left in them.
So.... dismissal instead of refutation.
And you're avoiding my question: why does this matter?
Whatever. Answer me or not, my patience has been spent. I'm done here. <_<
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