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[Ajensis]

Supergamingginger wrote...

 I'm starting to believe that there was no right way to end Commander Shepard's tale. 

That might have a grain of truth, but there certainly was a better way

[Steppenwolf]

I'm of the opinion that ME1 was the best installment of the franchise, so my opinion of BioWare is that they're going downhill.

[Metallica93]

My opinion of EA (if you didn't feel like reading my massive post on the 2nd page, lol):

"Now do you guys think it’s EA’s fault rather than BioWare's? For example, after playing Battlefield 3 I think I’m forever done with EA as it appears a lot of crap can be traced back directly to them. My opinion of DICE, too, went from "Wow!" to "Whatever" from Battlefield 2 to Battlefield 3. As much as I want  to play Dead Space 3, as well, I just don't want to give EA any more of my money they don't deserve. I think BioWare just caught the "terrible publisher" bug."

Not to mention the absurdity of EA pushing online components or thinking multiplayer is "the future" or some sh*t.

AresKeith wrote...

There is no Bioware only EA

In a nutshell -__-


Many thanks to "Ajensis" for the great conversation, as well

Modifié par Metallica93, 30 mars 2013 - 07:34 .

[TheConza]

Xabungle wrote...

I have loved their DA and ME series and gotten repeated entertainment from playing them. No complaints.

+1. Soooo many hours of pure entertainment.

[The Real Bowser]

I miss Bioware. EAware has proven to be out to milk money and little else. I have no faith for the future of Mass Effect, Dragon Age, or Star Wars: The Old Republic. Bioware has proven incapable of making stories we enjoy as has been proven with the ending of Mass Effect 3, Leviathan, and Omega.

Citadel was a freak occurrence -- it was successful simply because they played off of all the memes and jokes. Don't get me wrong -- I appreciate it, and it was fantastic, but that trick only works once.

As I posted in another thread, this is one of those cases where I really hope I'm wrong, but nothing is pointing to that. I have no faith in EAware.

[Iakus]

Supergamingginger wrote...

 I'm starting to believe that there was no right way to end Commander Shepard's tale. 

You're right, there was no right way.  There are so many Shepards played in so many ways that there was no single best way to conclude the series.  

That's why we needed multiple ways to conclude the story.  Not just "choose a color" 

[Reikilea]

I m pretty much okay with ME3. The game was still great and depressing endings doesn´t spite me, I watched too many Haneke´s and Bela Tarr´s films. Well as long as I stay with destroy. Other endings doesn´t exist for me. ME series are one of my most favourite series and I can ignore few "flaws" for the sake of my own headcannon. My headcannon is something I am okay with. Stil, nothing can beat ME in my head. You know, the old bioware..

However DA2 is an abomination and I can´t forgive them for it. So glad I didn´t buy it. Only thing I liked was Anders.

[MassPredator]

The real issue in the triology is how it ends. I also though that a 4° ME game was never planned until the resignments of the doctors. I am starting to see Bioware like a machine that only do games for commands and not for passion (always profit in both), the magic in their titles is lost. I hope the new DA change my mind.

[Gamescook]

 They need better QA. Just... Just better QA.

Also, hammy as the dialogue was half the time, I pre-ordered on the promise of gay and lesbian characters. I appreciate a AAA game that even acknowleges they exist.

[RocketManSR2]

iakus wrote...

Supergamingginger wrote...

 I'm starting to believe that there was no right way to end Commander Shepard's tale. 

You're right, there was no right way.  There are so many Shepards played in so many ways that there was no single best way to conclude the series.  

That's why we needed multiple ways to conclude the story.  Not just "choose a color" 

Absolutely. To add to the misery, each color led to varying degrees of war crime and/or suicide. I know how I wanted Shepard's story to end and that sure as hell wasn't it. It also didn't involve "rainbows and unicorns". I was hoping for something in the middle. Oh well, EAware won't be getting any preorders from me at the very least. I feel like EA cashed in and took advantage of my love for the ME series. I'll remember that for a long time.  

[Wolfva2]

My opinion on Bioware after ME? That they can, and still do, make games that I find highly interesting, emotionally involved, and enjoyable to play.

I wish I could hit the lotto for enough money to buy Bioware. The first thing I'd do is fire Hudson, Gaider, heck, all the devs and writers. After all, according to ya'll they don't know what they're doing. They're inept bunglers. The next thing I'd do is hire ya'll to take their places. Since some of you obviously believe you can do the job so much better then they can. You're better writers, coders, artists, designers; hell, I bet you're more handsome as well. Could probably beat Tiger Woods in a game of golf, but I don't play so I don't care about that. Anyways, after hiring ya'll I'll sit back and wait for that beautiful, perfect game that you'll have completed in no time at all. Before long, I'll be swimming in my olympic sized swimming pool full of Gold Doubloons, much like Scrooge McDuck does! It's a sure fire plan, it can't POSSIBLY fail!

[Steppenwolf]

Wolfva2 wrote...

I wish I could hit the lotto for enough money to buy Bioware. The first thing I'd do is fire Hudson, Gaider, heck, all the devs and writers. After all, according to ya'll they don't know what they're doing. They're inept bunglers.

The BioWare Defense Force always makes the haters look smarter and more reasonable.

[Metallica93]

Gamescook wrote...

 They need better QA. Just... Just better QA.

Also,
hammy as the dialogue was half the time, I pre-ordered on the promise
of gay and lesbian characters. I appreciate a AAA game that even
acknowleges they exist.

"QA," "hammy," and "AAA." No idea what you're talking about, lol.

In terms of the game addressing homosexuality, I actually sat back thinking "Wow, it seems like they tried to force this." Sure, it's a little weird for me to accept in a video game (I do believe this is my first game that deals with it), but even then... eh... Opinion subject to change as I play.

Wolfva2 wrote...

My opinion on Bioware after ME? That they can, and still do, make games that I find highly interesting, emotionally involved, and enjoyable to play.

I wish I could hit the lotto for enough money to buy Bioware. The first thing I'd do is fire Hudson, Gaider, heck, all the devs and writers. After all, according to ya'll they don't know what they're doing. They're inept bunglers. The next thing I'd do is hire ya'll to take their places. Since some of you obviously believe you can do the job so much better then they can. You're better writers, coders, artists, designers; hell, I bet you're more handsome as well. Could probably beat Tiger Woods in a game of golf, but I don't play so I don't care about that. Anyways, after hiring ya'll I'll sit back and wait for that beautiful, perfect game that you'll have completed in no time at all. Before long, I'll be swimming in my olympic sized swimming pool full of Gold Doubloons, much like Scrooge McDuck does! It's a sure fire plan, it can't POSSIBLY fail!

Wow. What an unbelievably arrogant comment. I simply asked what peoples' opinions were of BioWare as some or even most were interested when one, two, or even all three were released. Obviously, I only recently got sucked into the Mass Effect universe and had no idea how BioWare had treated their fans up to this point.

But please, continue spewing pointless rhetoric at your own expense.

[RACDB]

No issues. Hope the next ME comes out by 2015.

[cyrslash1974]

My opinion : happy and disappointed, both.

Happy because BW, as usually, has created a wonderfull universe, an incredible journey and one of the greatest hero of all time.

Disappointed, because the conclusion of this serie let me a bad taste in my mouth, even if the EC is correct.or the DLCs very good. Since DA2, Bioware has changed, and not in the good way for me.

I love BW, yes, I am a fan, but not a "fanatic". And I care.

[tamperous]

To me they show signs of fatigue in their storytelling and writing. Especially in terms of overall plots. The character bits are still there but they seem to have lost the sense of wonder, mystery and awe that their games used to produce. They are going for too many big explosions al a big summer blockbusters. Those don't produce what I am looking for in a game. I'll go to a mindless summer movie for that type of stuff. I don't need to invest 30+ hours to get better explosions than what BW can produce.

[knightnblu]

Going into the Mass Effect games I had the greatest respect for BioWare. After all, they had authored some of my most favorite games. When they did something wrong, they owned up to it and learned from it and in my mind that spells character. When EA purchased them I was leery, but willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. ME2 came out and my passion for ME grew and I couldn't wait for ME3. I just had to know how all of this was going to end, how I was going to save the galaxy, and how my squad mates were going to develop.

ME3 was what I expected it to be for about 97% of the game. As I worked through Priority Earth my anticipation grew. Then I got hit with the Reaper beam and I thought that I had died. A couple of seconds later I am still alive and managing to move forward. I look like I just came out of the business end of the grinder, but I am still fighting. I make it the beam, I make it to Anderson, and I kill TIM and open the arms. Everything is going great...until.

At that moment I was WTF?!? Why is Shepard doing everything that the creepy, glowing kid says? Why is Shepard on board with his own suicide? Why does Mr. "there has to be another way" just shut up and do as he is told? Why is he O.K. with that crap? Why doesn't he go looking for Catalyst Kid's hardware and burn it to the ground? Why did BioWare do this to me?!? Seriously, WTF?

I don't care if Will Shakespeare himself wrote the ME3 ending, that was lame. But wait, it gets better. Shep ends up destroying the very planet he fought like a demon to save. He also slaughtered 98% of the galaxy in the process and scored an own goal. Then the real excrement hits the rotating oscillator. BioWare does a tap dance routine worthy of Vaudeville. They duck, dodge, and evade and refuse to accept responsibility for that dog of an ending and cite "artistic integrity" like it is some sort of get of jail free card. A BioWare Director reveals that they don't give a rat's furry back side about our opinions, they only care what game makers think. That isn't the BioWare I knew.

Now I am much more cautious about them. They have lied, flirted with false advertising, and have dodged responsibility for phoning in the OE. The character of EA/BioWare is nothing like the character of original BioWare. Trust has to be earned and people who give it away freely are fools. I trust BioWare as much as I trust any other gaming company now and will continue to see them as such until the prove that they are trustworthy again.

[mtmercydave09]

For me the journey was awesome, the ending could have been better though.

So I guess I'm both happy with Bioware, and disappointed with Bioware. The DLC's did help but can't help but feel a little disappointed about where the trilogy ended.

For how epic the journey was, the ending should have been too.

It also seemed to me that ME3 became more about combat, and less about the characters and interacting with them.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 01 avril 2013 - 06:22 .

[mtmercydave09]

knightnblu wrote...

Going into the Mass Effect games I had the greatest respect for BioWare. After all, they had authored some of my most favorite games. When they did something wrong, they owned up to it and learned from it and in my mind that spells character. When EA purchased them I was leery, but willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. ME2 came out and my passion for ME grew and I couldn't wait for ME3. I just had to know how all of this was going to end, how I was going to save the galaxy, and how my squad mates were going to develop.

ME3 was what I expected it to be for about 97% of the game. As I worked through Priority Earth my anticipation grew. Then I got hit with the Reaper beam and I thought that I had died. A couple of seconds later I am still alive and managing to move forward. I look like I just came out of the business end of the grinder, but I am still fighting. I make it the beam, I make it to Anderson, and I kill TIM and open the arms. Everything is going great...until.

At that moment I was WTF?!? Why is Shepard doing everything that the creepy, glowing kid says? Why is Shepard on board with his own suicide? Why does Mr. "there has to be another way" just shut up and do as he is told? Why is he O.K. with that crap? Why doesn't he go looking for Catalyst Kid's hardware and burn it to the ground? Why did BioWare do this to me?!? Seriously, WTF?

I don't care if Will Shakespeare himself wrote the ME3 ending, that was lame. But wait, it gets better. Shep ends up destroying the very planet he fought like a demon to save. He also slaughtered 98% of the galaxy in the process and scored an own goal. Then the real excrement hits the rotating oscillator. BioWare does a tap dance routine worthy of Vaudeville. They duck, dodge, and evade and refuse to accept responsibility for that dog of an ending and cite "artistic integrity" like it is some sort of get of jail free card. A BioWare Director reveals that they don't give a rat's furry back side about our opinions, they only care what game makers think. That isn't the BioWare I knew.

Now I am much more cautious about them. They have lied, flirted with false advertising, and have dodged responsibility for phoning in the OE. The character of EA/BioWare is nothing like the character of original BioWare. Trust has to be earned and people who give it away freely are fools. I trust BioWare as much as I trust any other gaming company now and will continue to see them as such until the prove that they are trustworthy again.

Well said, I agree with you completely.  Hence why I just installed MEHEM and use the Citadel DLC as my ending now.

I was fine with the ending until Starbrat.

[CDR David Shepard]

Between the Mass Effect series and Dragon Age: Origins...

...even if Bioware never came out with another game...my opinion of them will always be extremely high.

There are no other games in existance that have or can make me feel the same amount of appreciation that I have for these games.

Maybe it's just the timing and my age...but I highly doubt that I will ever invest this much, time and emotion, in any other video game.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 01 avril 2013 - 06:31 .

[snakeboy86]

 Needs Moar Cowbell:P

seriously my view,it's changed a bit, but not so radically that I'll never buy another bioware game

[AnthonyDraft]

scyphozoa wrote...

I love ME and Bioware, but my expectations of big and unique reactivity, consequences and divergence is gone now after the ME trilogy. The ME trilogy was advertised as a planned trilogy that would have trilogy-spanning consequences and reactivity.

The truth is, Bioware really did do more than any other game, or series of games, in terms of data-importing and IMO, it still wasn't enough. I was expecting a lot more consequence and divergence from a trilogy that was being designed around importing choices throughout all 3 games.

Hopefully this is something bioware will be able to do with greater success in the future, but I am not getting my expectations up the way I did for ME trilogy.

My exact thoughts.

[Ang3l o Xn6]

I still love Bioware but hate more and more EA, just saying.