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[szkasypcze]

The ITers final offensive. It's all or nothing.

[Xamufam]

@Spartas Husky
can say the breath scene does not make any sense
This is an o'neill cylinder when it rotates it creates artificial gravity





Citadel exploaded that should drop the artificial atmosphere (No air)

"Gravity is simulated through rotation, and is a comfortable 1.02 standard G's on the Wards and a light 0.3 standard G's on the Presidium Ring."

"The Wards are open-topped, with skyscrapers rising from the
superstructure. Towers are sealed against vacuum, as the breathable
atmosphere envelope is only maintained to a height of about seven
meters. The atmosphere is contained by the centrifugal force of rotation
and a "membrane" of dense, colorless sulphur hexafluoride gas, held in
place by carefully managed mass effect fields."

Where do the gravity come from the citadel has stopped rotating"

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_space#Citadel_Space

When the citadel opens everyone on it would fly away

Modifié par Troxa, 30 mars 2013 - 08:12 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Troxa wrote...

can say the breath scene does not make any sense
This is an o'neill cylinder when it rotates it creates artificial gravity





Citadel exploaded that should drop the artificial atmosphere (No air) assumption

"Gravity is simulated through rotation, and is a comfortable 1.02 standard G's on the Wards and a light 0.3 standard G's on the Presidium Ring."

"The Wards are open-topped, with skyscrapers rising from the
superstructure. Towers are sealed against vacuum, as the breathable
atmosphere envelope is only maintained to a height of about seven
meters. The atmosphere is contained by the centrifugal force of rotation
and a "membrane" of dense, colorless sulphur hexafluoride gas, held in
place by carefully managed mass effect fields."

Where do the gravity come from the citadel has stopped rotating"

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_space#Citadel_Space

When the citadel opens everyone on it would fly away

I may be remembering wrong, but I think we calculated everyone to fly off at about 20m/s. Ouch!

[Xamufam]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Troxa wrote...

can say the breath scene does not make any sense
This is an o'neill cylinder when it rotates it creates artificial gravity





Citadel exploaded that should drop the artificial atmosphere (No air) assumption

"Gravity is simulated through rotation, and is a comfortable 1.02 standard G's on the Wards and a light 0.3 standard G's on the Presidium Ring."

"The Wards are open-topped, with skyscrapers rising from the
superstructure. Towers are sealed against vacuum, as the breathable
atmosphere envelope is only maintained to a height of about seven
meters. The atmosphere is contained by the centrifugal force of rotation
and a "membrane" of dense, colorless sulphur hexafluoride gas, held in
place by carefully managed mass effect fields."

Where do the gravity come from the citadel has stopped rotating"

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_space#Citadel_Space

When the citadel opens everyone on it would fly away

I may be remembering wrong, but I think we calculated everyone to fly off at about 20m/s. Ouch!

Off topic Still not faster than voyager 1 & 2 speed 18 km/s:lol: that is speed

[Nykara]

Why is it actually necessary for Shep to die in the control ending. If all it requires is Shepard's memories and experiences uploaded?
Otherwise just HOW Shepard is the Shepard Reapers or Catalyst or wherever Shep actually is now?

[Yestare7]

That is a lot of questions. (much thinking in my brain ensues.)

Here is the answer to ALL the questions:


1. Because of blue.  
 2. www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Yestare7, 30 mars 2013 - 08:47 .

[SiriusXI]

Yestare7 wrote...


That is a lot of questions. (much thinking in my brain ensues.)

Here is the answer to ALL the questions:

1. Stop over-analyzing. Enjoy your videogame.
2. Because of blue.

This is a stupid comment.

1. This answers NO questions.
2. For video games to be a medium that can be considered art, it has to be able to hold up to criticism. Nobody would say: "stop over analyzing. Enjoy your book".
3. No matter how "small" some of these questions are, the fact that there are so many add up an make the ending broken.


People like you Yestare7 are a prime example of the mindless consumer society that we live in. Why bother understanding media? Why watching intelligent movies? You'd much rather sit back and enjoy your flick without even thinking about what you actually watch. So for you it doesn't matter if a movie, game, book or song is actually good. What matters for you is consuming and shutting down your brain activity.

I'm really sick of people bringing up this argument when defening the ending. Grow up Yestare7!


Edit: Just saw you edited your post. Changed your mind?

Modifié par SiriusXI, 30 mars 2013 - 08:51 .

[Yestare7]

 
Hoi Sirius,
you sure seem to know a lot about me!!

I'm way too happy to go into your consumerism talk, but I must point out one flaw in your post:
I am not defending the ending.

I enjoyed ME1-3, had a great time, and that's it.

Look at the op's questions - I don't wanna read it, I don't wanna answer it, and I find it regrettable for people that they are so fixated by plot(holes) that they cannot enjoy the experience.

"Bioware owes us answers"  :P:P



(BTW, if you are interested in consumerism, I recommend Fight Club)

Modifié par Yestare7, 30 mars 2013 - 09:06 .

[SiriusXI]

Yestare7 wrote...

 
Hoi Sirius,
you sure seem to know a lot about me!!

I'm way too happy to go into your consumerism talk, but I must point out one flaw in your post:
I am not defending the ending.

I enjoyed ME1-3, had a great time, and that's it.

Look at the op's questions - I don't wanna read it, I don't wanna answer it, and I find it regrettable for people that they are so fixated by plot(holes) that they cannot enjoy the experience.

"Bioware owes us answers"  :P:P


(BTW, if you are interested in consumerism, I recommend Fight Club)

Yeah, I feel kind of bad for being so harsh, but still: enjoying the
game requires it to have a certain level of intelligence, becase it is
(supposed to be) story driven. I can enjoy Pacman without complaining
about plotholes. I can enjoy Super Mario with its redundand plot. However,
I cannot enjoy Mass Effect 3's ending in the same way, because it is
the story that makes Mass Effect what it is. That story is broken due to
the ending.

You see, I think people who like Mass Effect 3's ending are people that like Fight Club because "there is so much fighting", rather than because of what messages the movie tries to convey. In Mass Effect we enjoy the ride... yeah, the combat has gotten so much better and we have multiplayer and EDI gets a revealing fembot body...

Sorry for being hostile. I really shouldn't argue about the ending anymore. Mass Effect isn't worth it. It had the chance to be something really meaningful. A milestone in gaming history. I'm just so disappointed that it will never be that.


Recently I've watched a documentary about dark energy and the end of the universe. If you know about dark energy, you know that this is the force that expands our universe in a constantly accelerating way. Scientists believe that the dark energy will one time be stronger than gravitational forces. When that happens, the universe will be destroyed, because dark energy will rip appart all matter on a nuclear level. They call this "the big rip" in relation to "the big bang" which started it all.
So this is state of the art science. Wouldn't it have been cool if Mass Effect dealt with this topic? I don't think the original dark energy solution where you had to choose between a human reaper or not was that good. But the premise was great.

Reapers, the machine gods, undefeatable, are still just subject to the realm of existence. Nonexistence is a threat they try to avoid. Why not have the reapers solve this problem? Throw some pieces of string-theory or M-theory in there and let Mass Effect be an intelligent game. Why not have the reapers try to escape to a parallel universe to escape the immanent destruction of the one they currently live in. Why not something like that? Or why not letting the reapers try to reduce dark energy somehow. Harvesting organics might then just be necessary to grow more reapers, since, like the geth, reapers improve their mental abilities when they join their minds/processes.

[NeonFlux117]

oh my fellow shep's, quit asking questions. Serious. It's over. Let the rotting decaying corpse known as ME3's ending rest. It's useless now. Bioware doesn't have the ballz to do anything so amazing like IT, so all these questions are just there to be there. And the plot holes and lorebreaking elements are there because of poor writing and peer reviewing on behalf of the ME3 writing staff. It's over guys. Just chalk it up as a failure and move on. You will never get clarification from BioWare. Never.Ever. They just want ME3's endings to go away and go die in a dark and cold cave. Just leave it at that and remember the good times.

Now go play Bioshock infinite. Seriously. Want a mind blowing ending that's absolutely stunning, there you go. Out now. Go get it.

[Yestare7]

Thanx for your apology. I can fully understand anyone's anger at the endings, I myself would have preferred the inclusion of a happy ending. (now I play: Destroy, party at Citadel - perhaps MEHEM next time)

I have read Clarke, Heinlein, Asimov, Vance, and many more SF authors. If you go and disect and analyze everything, you can shred virtually any story. I decided a long time ago not to do that, and enjoy the products for what they are.

(Fight club got me big time. Males are no longer needed for hunting, fishing, gathering.
"what are we then?" "we are consumers")

greetings,


Y

Modifié par Yestare7, 30 mars 2013 - 09:55 .

[Edorian27]

And still one thing more I never understood, perhaps anyone here can bring some sense into it:

It's said various times over "Priority: Earth" that "this is it" The final push, everything depends on its success. Before you start the beamrun Anderson literally said it's do or die, no one holds back.

And then sb. over the radio gives an order to retreat? Your (minorly wounded) squadmates get extracted by the normandy?

Why on earth wouldn't the alliance throw anything still breathing towards the beam?

[Maxster_]

[quote]Spartas Husky wrote...

2.Why did the Catalyst need Sovereign to open the relay?
---Some consider it a plothole, but the catalyst is not connected to the citadel, it needs outside input to connect it to it. Why? I am not sure it was never explained. Regardless this implies he doesn't not have physical connecttion to the rest of the citadel's systems.
[/quote]
It is a major plothole, which destroys ME1 plot.
And of course, Catalyst operating Magic Elevator, and closing the Citadel in control ending - debunks your baseless "explanation".
Catalyst just sat on the Citadel, watching Sovereign's fail for fun.

[quote]
3.How does Shepard survive the crucible blast in Destroy ending?
---Because your EMS rating is big enough. Aside from that is a pretty big plothole. Whether is because you believe the Star brat is lying or because something else we dont really know. If EMS is high enough well there is your answer. if Star brat is not lying... then he is lying. Shepard has had major cybernetics implanted into him, face, spine, most of his bone structure.

So long story short, it makes sense if you dont heed the ending writting.
[/quote]
Meaning, it could be a plothole, if Shepard could survive that.
[quote]
7.Why is it that all of our squad mates return to the Normandy?
---Just because the EC wanted to fix the big plothole as to how your squad got back into the normandy. Although in this case the double size SR-2 which is explained in lore that its easier for a shuttle to enter planets is a bit weird. Not to mention with Harbinger less than half a mile behind the Sr-2.

--Side note: Only one of your teamates was severely injured, so why does the other one return, I dont know
-
[/quote]
That's, of course, not an answer.
There is no in-universe explanation in that stupidity.
And out-of-universe reasons - because writers wanted Shepard to be alone with the Catalyst.
It is just another plothole.

[quote]
-Why the 2d sprites? Why are they all running towards the massive slusho machine of death at the beginning of the game?
2dsprites where?
[/quote]
here
[quote]
-If the Catalyst is controlling the Citadel (or if the Citadel is his "home"), why did he need Sovereign to open the relay for the reapers?
--It doesn't, it told you Star Brat is separated from the rest of the citadel. How it is never explained.
[/quote]
False, of course.
[quote]
-Anderson comments that the walls of the Citadel are moving and rearranging themselves. Why don't we actually see this happening?
---Why indeed
[/quote]
This is nonsense, Magical Walls, on Magical Citadel.
Shows quality of writing(which is very low)
[quote]
-If the Catalyst was always in or on the Citadel or Crucible and truly is an Reaper ally or designed them. Why didn't the Reapers know that the Citadel was the key? Why did they need the Cerberus tip?
-----The reapers new of the cucible designs, but they didn't know how it needed the citadel to work. They never did, Prothean VI tells you this.
[/quote]
Nonsense.
1. Crucible is contrived nonsense, which cannot exists
2. Catalyst being on the Citadel, means that the Reapers knew about prothean sabotage from the start.
3. Nothing in Citadel being transported to Earth makes any sense. That's what you get, when you let marketing team decide course of the narrative.

[quote]
-What is the objective of the Cerberus coup attempt on the Citadel? It takes place well before we learn about the Catalyst from the Prothean VI.
---Unsure. All we know is that councilor Udina would have the council grant him emergency power under threat of death and then he was thinking to unify the races through force to send a fleet to earth. Cerberus never states if that was indeed their plan or if they had something else in mind.
[/quote]
There is no reasons others than derp. Udina just betrays and dethrones himself for lulz.
Races are not ruled by the Council, and no one would follow traitor(or suspect) while abandoning their own homeworlds. And intelligent person, like Udina, of course, knew that from the start.
EAWare just assassinated character to pander to their new target audience.
[quote]
-What does Udina hope to gain by helping Cerberus, when he already has Shepard doing everything possible to secure allies for humanity? Aren't Udina's actions totally counter-productive to Shepard's efforts?
----Udina is a politician, and one plan isn't enough for a politician. IN the end we dont know.
[/quote]
It is just a plothole and character's assassination.


[quote]
- If we can blow up reapers using Cains (see also ME2) then why not just fit cains to the fleet ships?
---We can't blow reapers. We only blew a hades cannon. it implies they are vulnerable as they concentrate on being exclusively AAA batteries.
[/quote]
Nonsense, of course.
Why would reapers even need AA batteries, if they always had overwhelming space superiority?
Plotholes, plotholes everywhere.
[quote]
-How does Mr Random Soldier dude know everyone you want to contact by name, and their exact whereabouts and how is he able to actually contact them right on the spot?
---He doesn't know , you tell him who you want to contact.
[/quote]
Sure.
Like he knows that Grunt is a krogan from Urdnot. :lol:
Pathetic.

[quote]
-Why did the Reapers show such interest in London? London is a relatively small city, on a small island. If they were always planning to bring the Citadel to Earth to grow the new Reaper, why didn't they choose a city with a bigger population?
-----Speculation can arrive from this, far more than usual specially if you take into account tactical planing as Britain is an Island.
[/quote]
Meaning there is no reason.
[quote]
-London is also at a northern latitude. For the Citadel to remain in view of London, it must be in a geo-stationary orbit above the equator. Why then, does the beam point vertically upwards, instead of pointing at an angle due south?*
----Nobody ever said they could see the Citadel with the naked eye. Geo Stationary orbit applies to our understanding of physics. This is sci-fi. The beam may act as an anchor as well.
[/quote]
*facepalm*

[quote]
- How was the Normandy able to respond to Shepard's call for help so quickly?
---To fill a plothole.
[/quote]
With a bigger plothole.
Instead of Teleporting Squadmates, we now have Teleporting Squadmates(from FOB) and Teleporting Normandy. Which also destroys any reasons for that nonsensical excuse of a mission(priority:earth) to happen.
[quote]
-Why didn't the Normandy drop off reinforcements to help him assault the beam?
----Unknown
[/quote]
Plothole.
[quote]
-Why didn't Harbinger shoot at the Normandy?
---Biggest ****ing unknown in the galaxy
[/quote]
Plothole. And there is no reason for him to descend, he could just one-shot entire retarded offensive right from orbit.

[quote]
-Why do we hear Coats and "Did we get anybody to the beam" lady yet we can't reply to them.
--- Our very suits are burned off, not even our omnitool work, alluding to the idea we are screwed on coms.
How come they couldn't see us is a giant azz plothole. This is a plothole however given we can use them onboard the citadel.
[/quote]
Meaning Shepard is dead from shock.
[quote]
-Why does the gun you find on the ground before going up the beam have unlimited bullets? (explain with lore)
----With lore is impossible. weapons with built in sinks are no longer in circulation. So this counter to the lore itself.
[/quote]
More funny is how it is not burned, when Shepard's armor is melted.
Plotholes, plotholes everywhere.
[quote]
-Why run head first at your enemy providing them with easy shooting practice?
---There was no other way in from what it is described.
[/quote]
Sure. Harbringer descended from orbit, to shoot individual soldiers for fun. And said soldiers decided to play along, and presented him with target practice.
[quote]
-What exactly is this beam of light? Is it a one-way transport? Are there any other beams like this in the MEU? -Why does the beam remain post-ending (e.g., it is depicted in High-EMS Destroy stills in the EC)? How was this beam not destroyed in the blast?
It is an anchor and an elevator. The beam isn't physical is a sci-fi transporation beam. It gets shut off or on it doesn't get blown up.
[/quote]
It is a Magical Beam, a plot-device, to connect marketing-team-driven nonsensical excuse of a plot.
[quote]
-Why can the Normandy come in for a landing if you could not fly there in the first place according to Anderson tanks to the influence zone of the beam?
-----Flying wasn't the issue, it was laser or radio guided missiles. Being piloted manually is a different matter.
[/quote]
Anyway, there is no reason for Priority:Earth to happen at all. It is just a derp.
All you need is several frigate packs loaded with troops, to drop them right at the beam. Simple tactics.

[quote]
-If the Normandy could fly up to it then what is the purpose of Priority: Earth when you could do something like a Mako drop as you have in ME1?
-----Massive PLothole. But on a side ME1 Sr1 is smaller size than the Sr-2. The Sr-2 is not intended to go into atmosphere. Is easier, stealthier and more cost effective to send the kodiak shuttles which have been outfitted wiht stealth technology.
[/quote]
1. SR-2 can go in atmosphere.
2. It even teleports in atmosphere in the EC
3. Therefore, it is a massive plothole.
[quote]
-The Citadel is a vast miles-long structure. How did the Illusive Man know exactly where to wait for Shepard and Anderson?
----------he was being controlled, he didn't know the reapers did.
[/quote]
So, reapers knew, but still sent no troops. Riight.

[quote]-Who originally designed the Crucible, or at least, who first attempted to design/create/build it? How did the idea of the Crucible first come about?
-------------We dont know.
[/quote]
Crucible can not be designed. To design it, you need detailed knowledge of the relay network technology, and detailed knowledge of the Citadel. Meaning not only you know about reapers threat in advance, you also know about Catalyst.
And that is not possible, because first thing every cycle loses - is the Citadel and the relay network.

[quote]-The Crucible design seems to strongly imply that it would fit with the Citadel (given how smoothly it slides into the Citadel arms and docks). Why did none of the brilliant scientists working on the Crucible notice this? It seems like it would be obvious to anyone who was familiar with the structure of the Crucible.

-----We dont know, any number of reasons.
[/quote]
Garbage writing. One and only reasons.
Characters were dumbed down to a negative iq, to fit into nonsensical plot.


[quote]
-What was the original purpose of the Crucible? Did the original creators know the Catalyst was controlling the reapers?
---------You asked this already, we dont know what the original purpose of the catalyst is, all we know is a massive battery.
[/quote]
Meaning all functionality of the Crucible is provided by the reapers, and said functionality was buil-in into the Citadel right from the start.


[quote]

-How did the Normandy only sustain minimal damage coming out of FTL speeds and manage to land safely when running from the final wave(s).
---------------FTL speed is achieved through lowering their mass, when their mass is increased the speed decreases. It isn't some sort of handbrake that does a screetching halt.
In other words, sci-fi science
[/quote]
In other words, you haven't read ME codex.
[quote]

-If the Leviathans were trying to prevent the inevitable rebellion of synthetic life forms, why did they create a synthetic "intelligence" and why were they surprised when it inevitably rebelled?
----------- They explained this as Ai being just another tool, in other words they were arrogant. the Cliche saying holds here "Those who fail to remember history out of arrogance or ignorance are bound to repeat it"
[/quote]
They were utterly retarded.

[quote]
-Why does the Catalyst have the ability to switch off the Crucible beam, after Shepard refuses to use it? Why didn't it switch it off earlier?
--------------------------------------what ?
[/quote]
Refuse ending. Catalyst just turns off the beam, meaning he could do that anytime he wanted.
A major plothole.
[quote]
-Edi states during ME2, that it is impossible to transfer an AI from one Blue Box to another without irrevocably changing its personality, due to quantum fluctuations which cannot be corrected or compensated for. If so, how can Shepard's mind be similarly uploaded from an organic brain to become the new Catalyst? How can this new entity be anything more than an imperfect copy of Shepard?
-------------AI's and organic minds are different. To claim they are both the same.
[/quote]
That's not an answer.

[quote]
-.What is Cerberus actual plan during ME3?
----------unknown
[/quote]
None. They are just something to fill derp plot with.
[quote]
-Why does QEC suddenly working as a simple mobile phone, including signal interferences in ME3 instead of point to point direct unobstructed lag less communications it is?
-----Dont understand the question.
[/quote]
Because writers had no idea what they were doing.

[quote]
- Who was behind the attack on Lazarus Project?
-------The other scientist hacked the drones to attack eveyrone on the station.
[/quote]
Nonsense.

[quote]
-Once the Reapers had the Citadel, why didn't they use it to deactivate the relay network, and isolate the Alliance fleet?
--------------The Relay network is controlled from the Citadel Tower, as well as everything else. We know movement and wards is controlled from c-sec hq. Make of this what you will.
[/quote]
It is a major plothole.
[quote]
-Why didn't the Prothean VI on Ilos mention the Crucible?
--------Vigil had access to all data on its site. Never said it had access to other projects. As we know different VI's were assigned to different projects. However the VI for the prothean crucible had knowledge of Javik. So most likely information being comparmentalized.
This is assumptionbased on lore.
[/quote]
Simple. There was no Catalyst and other nonsense when ME1 was created.

Modifié par Maxster_, 30 mars 2013 - 10:39 .

[NeonFlux117]

Edorian27 wrote...

And still one thing more I never understood, perhaps anyone here can bring some sense into it:

It's said various times over "Priority: Earth" that "this is it" The final push, everything depends on its success. Before you start the beamrun Anderson literally said it's do or die, no one holds back.

And then sb. over the radio gives an order to retreat? Your (minorly wounded) squadmates get extracted by the normandy?

Why on earth wouldn't the alliance throw anything still breathing towards the beam?

well, you know who gives that "retreat" order. Nuff said. But I can only speculate that it's because they had another team waiting to go for the beam encase shep and crew and hammer squad didn't make it. Yeah, I don't know. Many of these questions cannot truthfully be answered without.... well, you know. 

[NeonFlux117]

[quote]Maxster_ wrote...

[quote]Spartas Husky wrote...

2.Why did the Catalyst need Sovereign to open the relay?
---Some consider it a plothole, but the catalyst is not connected to the citadel, it needs outside input to connect it to it. Why? I am not sure it was never explained. Regardless this implies he doesn't not have physical connecttion to the rest of the citadel's systems.
[/quote]
It is a major plothole, which destroys ME1 plot.
And of course, Catalyst operating Magic Elevator, and closing the Citadel in control ending - debunks your baseless "explanation".
Catalyst just sat on the Citadel, watching Sovereign's fail for fun.

[quote]
3.How does Shepard survive the crucible blast in Destroy ending?
---Because your EMS rating is big enough. Aside from that is a pretty big plothole. Whether is because you believe the Star brat is lying or because something else we dont really know. If EMS is high enough well there is your answer. if Star brat is not lying... then he is lying. Shepard has had major cybernetics implanted into him, face, spine, most of his bone structure.

So long story short, it makes sense if you dont heed the ending writting.
[/quote]
Meaning, it could be a plothole, if Shepard could survive that.
[quote]
7.Why is it that all of our squad mates return to the Normandy?
---Just because the EC wanted to fix the big plothole as to how your squad got back into the normandy. Although in this case the double size SR-2 which is explained in lore that its easier for a shuttle to enter planets is a bit weird. Not to mention with Harbinger less than half a mile behind the Sr-2.

--Side note: Only one of your teamates was severely injured, so why does the other one return, I dont know
-
[/quote]
That's, of course, not an answer.
There is no in-universe explanation in that stupidity.
And out-of-universe reasons - because writers wanted Shepard to be alone with the Catalyst.
It is just another plothole.

[quote]
-Why the 2d sprites? Why are they all running towards the massive slusho machine of death at the beginning of the game?
2dsprites where?
[/quote]
here
[quote]
-If the Catalyst is controlling the Citadel (or if the Citadel is his "home"), why did he need Sovereign to open the relay for the reapers?
--It doesn't, it told you Star Brat is separated from the rest of the citadel. How it is never explained.
[/quote]
False, of course.
[quote]
-Anderson comments that the walls of the Citadel are moving and rearranging themselves. Why don't we actually see this happening?
---Why indeed
[/quote]
This is nonsense, Magical Walls, on Magical Citadel.
Shows quality of writing(which is very low)
[quote]
-If the Catalyst was always in or on the Citadel or Crucible and truly is an Reaper ally or designed them. Why didn't the Reapers know that the Citadel was the key? Why did they need the Cerberus tip?
-----The reapers new of the cucible designs, but they didn't know how it needed the citadel to work. They never did, Prothean VI tells you this.
[/quote]
Nonsense.
1. Crucible is contrived nonsense, which cannot exists
2. Catalyst being on the Citadel, means that the Reapers knew about prothean sabotage from the start.
3. Nothing in Citadel being transported to Earth makes any sense. That's what you get, when you let marketing team decide course of the narrative.

[quote]
-What is the objective of the Cerberus coup attempt on the Citadel? It takes place well before we learn about the Catalyst from the Prothean VI.
---Unsure. All we know is that councilor Udina would have the council grant him emergency power under threat of death and then he was thinking to unify the races through force to send a fleet to earth. Cerberus never states if that was indeed their plan or if they had something else in mind.
[/quote]
There is no reasons others than derp. Udina just betrays and dethrones himself for lulz.
Races are not ruled by the Council, and no one would follow traitor(or suspect) while abandoning their own homeworlds. And intelligent person, like Udina, of course, knew that from the start.
EAWare just assassinated character to pander to their new target audience.
[quote]
-What does Udina hope to gain by helping Cerberus, when he already has Shepard doing everything possible to secure allies for humanity? Aren't Udina's actions totally counter-productive to Shepard's efforts?
----Udina is a politician, and one plan isn't enough for a politician. IN the end we dont know.
[/quote]
It is just a plothole and character's assassination.


[quote]
- If we can blow up reapers using Cains (see also ME2) then why not just fit cains to the fleet ships?
---We can't blow reapers. We only blew a hades cannon. it implies they are vulnerable as they concentrate on being exclusively AAA batteries.
[/quote]
Nonsense, of course.
Why would reapers even need AA batteries, if they always had overwhelming space superiority?
Plotholes, plotholes everywhere.
[quote]
-How does Mr Random Soldier dude know everyone you want to contact by name, and their exact whereabouts and how is he able to actually contact them right on the spot?
---He doesn't know , you tell him who you want to contact.
[/quote]
Sure.
Like he knows that Grunt is a krogan from Urdnot. :lol:
Pathetic.

[quote]
-Why did the Reapers show such interest in London? London is a relatively small city, on a small island. If they were always planning to bring the Citadel to Earth to grow the new Reaper, why didn't they choose a city with a bigger population?
-----Speculation can arrive from this, far more than usual specially if you take into account tactical planing as Britain is an Island.
[/quote]
Meaning there is no reason.
[quote]
-London is also at a northern latitude. For the Citadel to remain in view of London, it must be in a geo-stationary orbit above the equator. Why then, does the beam point vertically upwards, instead of pointing at an angle due south?*
----Nobody ever said they could see the Citadel with the naked eye. Geo Stationary orbit applies to our understanding of physics. This is sci-fi. The beam may act as an anchor as well.
[/quote]
*facepalm*

[quote]
- How was the Normandy able to respond to Shepard's call for help so quickly?
---To fill a plothole.
[/quote]
With a bigger plothole.
Instead of Teleporting Squadmates, we now have Teleporting Squadmates(from FOB) and Teleporting Normandy. Which also destroys any reasons for that nonsensical excuse of a mission(priority:earth) to happen.
[quote]
-Why didn't the Normandy drop off reinforcements to help him assault the beam?
----Unknown
[/quote]
Plothole.
[quote]
-Why didn't Harbinger shoot at the Normandy?
---Biggest ****ing unknown in the galaxy
[/quote]
Plothole. And there is no reason for him to descend, he could just one-shot entire retarded offensive right from orbit.

[quote]
-Why do we hear Coats and "Did we get anybody to the beam" lady yet we can't reply to them.
--- Our very suits are burned off, not even our omnitool work, alluding to the idea we are screwed on coms.
How come they couldn't see us is a giant azz plothole. This is a plothole however given we can use them onboard the citadel.
[/quote]
Meaning Shepard is dead from shock.
[quote]
-Why does the gun you find on the ground before going up the beam have unlimited bullets? (explain with lore)
----With lore is impossible. weapons with built in sinks are no longer in circulation. So this counter to the lore itself.
[/quote]
More funny is how it is not burned, when Shepard's armor is melted.
Plotholes, plotholes everywhere.
[quote]
-Why run head first at your enemy providing them with easy shooting practice?
---There was no other way in from what it is described.
[/quote]
Sure. Harbringer descended from orbit, to shoot individual soldiers for fun. And said soldiers decided to play along, and presented him with target practice.
[quote]
-What exactly is this beam of light? Is it a one-way transport? Are there any other beams like this in the MEU? -Why does the beam remain post-ending (e.g., it is depicted in High-EMS Destroy stills in the EC)? How was this beam not destroyed in the blast?
It is an anchor and an elevator. The beam isn't physical is a sci-fi transporation beam. It gets shut off or on it doesn't get blown up.
[/quote]
It is a Magical Beam, a plot-device, to connect marketing-team-driven nonsensical excuse of a plot.
[quote]
-Why can the Normandy come in for a landing if you could not fly there in the first place according to Anderson tanks to the influence zone of the beam?
-----Flying wasn't the issue, it was laser or radio guided missiles. Being piloted manually is a different matter.
[/quote]
Anyway, there is no reason for Priority:Earth to happen at all. It is just a derp.
All you need is several frigate packs loaded with troops, to drop them right at the beam. Simple tactics.

[quote]
-If the Normandy could fly up to it then what is the purpose of Priority: Earth when you could do something like a Mako drop as you have in ME1?
-----Massive PLothole. But on a side ME1 Sr1 is smaller size than the Sr-2. The Sr-2 is not intended to go into atmosphere. Is easier, stealthier and more cost effective to send the kodiak shuttles which have been outfitted wiht stealth technology.
[/quote]
1. SR-2 can go in atmosphere.
2. It even teleports in atmosphere in the EC
3. Therefore, it is a massive plothole.
[quote]
-The Citadel is a vast miles-long structure. How did the Illusive Man know exactly where to wait for Shepard and Anderson?
----------he was being controlled, he didn't know the reapers did.
[/quote]
So, reapers knew, but still sent no troops. Riight.

[quote]-Who originally designed the Crucible, or at least, who first attempted to design/create/build it? How did the idea of the Crucible first come about?
-------------We dont know.
[/quote]
Crucible can not be designed. To design it, you need detailed knowledge of the relay network technology, and detailed knowledge of the Citadel. Meaning not only you know about reapers threat in advance, you also know about Catalyst.
And that is not possible, because first thing every cycle loses - is the Citadel and the relay network.

[quote]-The Crucible design seems to strongly imply that it would fit with the Citadel (given how smoothly it slides into the Citadel arms and docks). Why did none of the brilliant scientists working on the Crucible notice this? It seems like it would be obvious to anyone who was familiar with the structure of the Crucible.

-----We dont know, any number of reasons.
[/quote]
Garbage writing. One and only reasons.
Characters were dumbed down to a negative iq, to fit into nonsensical plot.


[quote]
-What was the original purpose of the Crucible? Did the original creators know the Catalyst was controlling the reapers?
---------You asked this already, we dont know what the original purpose of the catalyst is, all we know is a massive battery.
[/quote]
Meaning all functionality of the Crucible is provided by the reapers, and said functionality was buil-in into the Citadel right from the start.


[quote]

-How did the Normandy only sustain minimal damage coming out of FTL speeds and manage to land safely when running from the final wave(s).
---------------FTL speed is achieved through lowering their mass, when their mass is increased the speed decreases. It isn't some sort of handbrake that does a screetching halt.
In other words, sci-fi science
[/quote]
In other words, you haven't read ME codex.
[quote]

-If the Leviathans were trying to prevent the inevitable rebellion of synthetic life forms, why did they create a synthetic "intelligence" and why were they surprised when it inevitably rebelled?
----------- They explained this as Ai being just another tool, in other words they were arrogant. the Cliche saying holds here "Those who fail to remember history out of arrogance or ignorance are bound to repeat it"
[/quote]
They were utterly retarded.

[quote]
-Why does the Catalyst have the ability to switch off the Crucible beam, after Shepard refuses to use it? Why didn't it switch it off earlier?
--------------------------------------what ?
[/quote]
Refuse ending. Catalyst just turns off the beam, meaning he could do that anytime he wanted.
A major plothole.
[quote]
-Edi states during ME2, that it is impossible to transfer an AI from one Blue Box to another without irrevocably changing its personality, due to quantum fluctuations which cannot be corrected or compensated for. If so, how can Shepard's mind be similarly uploaded from an organic brain to become the new Catalyst? How can this new entity be anything more than an imperfect copy of Shepard?
-------------AI's and organic minds are different. To claim they are both the same.
[/quote]
That's not an answer.

[quote]
-.What is Cerberus actual plan during ME3?
----------unknown
[/quote]
None. They are just something to fill derp plot with.
[quote]
-Why does QEC suddenly working as a simple mobile phone, including signal interferences in ME3 instead of point to point direct unobstructed lag less communications it is?
-----Dont understand the question.
[/quote]
Because writers had no idea what they were doing.

[quote]
- Who was behind the attack on Lazarus Project?
-------The other scientist hacked the drones to attack eveyrone on the station.
[/quote]
Nonsense.

[quote]
-Once the Reapers had the Citadel, why didn't they use it to deactivate the relay network, and isolate the Alliance fleet?
--------------The Relay network is controlled from the Citadel Tower, as well as everything else. We know movement and wards is controlled from c-sec hq. Make of this what you will.
[/quote]
It is a major plothole.
[quote]
-Why didn't the Prothean VI on Ilos mention the Crucible?
--------Vigil had access to all data on its site. Never said it had access to other projects. As we know different VI's were assigned to different projects. However the VI for the prothean crucible had knowledge of Javik. So most likely information being comparmentalized.
This is assumptionbased on lore.
[/quote]
Simple. There was no Catalyst and other nonsense when ME1 was created.


[/quote]


Damn, this is good stuff. 100 percent on the money. 

[anathesnail]

- Who was behind the attack on Lazarus Project?
Wilson, the scientist. He worked for the Shadow Broker so I assume the motivation behind the attack was to get Shepard's body back to the Broker.

[NeonFlux117]

anathesnail wrote...

- Who was behind the attack on Lazarus Project?
Wilson, the scientist. He worked for the Shadow Broker so I assume the motivation behind the attack was to get Shepard's body back to the Broker.

Wilson really worked for the Broker? Where does it say that? 

Makes since tho. 

[anathesnail]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

anathesnail wrote...

- Who was behind the attack on Lazarus Project?
Wilson, the scientist. He worked for the Shadow Broker so I assume the motivation behind the attack was to get Shepard's body back to the Broker.

Wilson really worked for the Broker? Where does it say that? 

Makes since tho. 

If you look through Legion's files on the Broker's base (Specifically the normandy's audio transcript) it says:
"Note: We are still unable to directly tap geth communications. Cerberus decryption programs look promising, but Wilson´s death will make integrating new agents onto Minuteman difficult."

I doubt they were talking about a different Wilson who works for Cerberus

Modifié par anathesnail, 30 mars 2013 - 11:10 .

[NeonFlux117]

anathesnail wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

anathesnail wrote...

- Who was behind the attack on Lazarus Project?
Wilson, the scientist. He worked for the Shadow Broker so I assume the motivation behind the attack was to get Shepard's body back to the Broker.

Wilson really worked for the Broker? Where does it say that? 

Makes since tho. 

If you look through Legion's files on the Broker's base (Specifically the normandy's audio transcript) it says:
"Note: We are still unable to directly tap geth communications. Cerberus decryption programs look promising, but Wilson´s death will make integrating new agents onto Minuteman difficult."

I doubt they were talking about a different Wilson who works for Cerberus

Damn your right! I never looked at Legions stuff that close. The broker was into everyting and everyone.

[anathesnail]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

anathesnail wrote...


If you look through Legion's files on the Broker's base (Specifically the normandy's audio transcript) it says:
"Note: We are still unable to directly tap geth communications. Cerberus decryption programs look promising, but Wilson´s death will make integrating new agents onto Minuteman difficult."

I doubt they were talking about a different Wilson who works for Cerberus

Damn your right! I never looked at Legions stuff that close. The broker was into everyting and everyone.

I missed it in my first playthroughs of LotSB too, there are a LOT of files to read. So sometimes bioware answers our questions, but very discretely

Modifié par anathesnail, 30 mars 2013 - 11:22 .

[demersel]

byne wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

Time travel.

Oh, you.

What? Time Travel is REALLY HARD to write about! :innocent:

[demersel]

FlamingBoy wrote...

It was all a bloody dream

what can I say op, the stuffed it up.

You might have missed it - but that was the whole point behind the OP. 

[Restrider]

I understand that a lot of those questions are nitpicks. Others, however, are not.
And since it has been a year since the release and - as far as BW has said - there will be no DLC/new content and Shepard's story is over, why aren't they answering these types of questions?
Whether on conventions, panel discussions or on the BSN story section?
Considering what they said, they cannot really spoil anything, can they?

Modifié par Restrider, 30 mars 2013 - 11:31 .

[mass perfection]

BW probably pissed their selves when hey read that.

[demersel]

anathesnail wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

anathesnail wrote...


If you look through Legion's files on the Broker's base (Specifically the normandy's audio transcript) it says:
"Note: We are still unable to directly tap geth communications. Cerberus decryption programs look promising, but Wilson´s death will make integrating new agents onto Minuteman difficult."

I doubt they were talking about a different Wilson who works for Cerberus

Damn your right! I never looked at Legions stuff that close. The broker was into everyting and everyone.

I missed it in my first playthroughs of LotSB too, there are a LOT of files to read. So sometimes bioware answers our questions, but very discretely

You're missing the point of the question - Sure Wilson was the guy who pulled the trigger (or was he really? what if it was just a hurried up clean up of the project, done by Miranda, and highjacked by Wilson becasue he didn't want to be be wasted?)
And yes, he was in contact with the shadow broker. But why would HE, the shadow broker want project lazarus destroyed and who was he working for?