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[Clips7]

They are cheap....and most times they kill you with their cheap sync-kills...seriously..the other day i solo'd two waves on gold after the team wiped. During a 4 mode hack i killed two Dragoons and a Phantom on Reactor at the back of the room opposite of the LZ...

One more phantom came, i'm using the phoenix vanguard...i use the same strategy i used to kill the other one...BC and heavy melee....this one? wants to ignore all of that...i BC, her,...does she do the stunned animation?...nope...i charge into an insta-kill....

Modifié par Clips7, 30 mars 2013 - 12:47 .

[IanLai]

800 hit per palm cannon
shoot 3-4 times
when u see they are saying HI
most of the character die

this is especially hilarious when 4 phantom on platinum come and move together when spawn
4 of them saying Hi
u know what happen

why not make them look at you and u die
this is extremely challenge

[UnknownMercenary]

MIND BOGGLING that the on-host DR was never removed. Completely idiotic.

[Oz not Ozzy]

Yes... Cerberus would have been little more than an annoyance without Phantoms, especially pre-Retaliation, but all that does is speak to the failings of the other Cerberus troops and how much the faction relies on the overpowered nature of one unit type.
 
Now, I know many people point to Dragoons and Turrets as well, but both of those units have very specific weaknesses that can be exploited by practically every character pretty much regardless of loadout.

Phantoms are the only enemy unit in any faction that I have to make sure I have a method of dealing with them specifically before I ready up for a Platinum or Gold match where I might encounter them.... that says it all really.

I'd really like to speak to whomever was responsible for deciding Phantoms should have one of the best ranged attacks, one of the best melee attacks, instakill, regeneration, damage reduction, incoming power denial and then, just to top it all off, give them a tactical cloak as well and ask them one question:

Seriously... What on Earth were you thinking?

[Xerorei]

Atlas? Tech Armor.

[Cirvante]

Strip their shields with overload ... and then TECH ARMOR!!!

[GordianKnot42]

Kittstalkur wrote...

What really annoys me about them lately is getting staggered by them on my Krentinel and Kroldier. Friggin' resist damn near everything else, but the one enemy I really need to be able to get the hell out of dodge fast on, by the time I can sprint they've already decided if they're going to stab me.

It really does not help when the game decides to not play their sounds at all and they sneak up on me.

Yeah. It's obnoxious when she does the stagger melee (which apparently has as much force as a Prime cannon blast... or the People's Elbow), and your non-dodge class can't even turn around and run before getting sync-killed. Cheap.

In general, anything that deprives the player from having any recourse (cheap Phantoms, rapid-fire Geth Rockets, Prime's triple stagger shot, Warp or Atlas rocket DoT) is not fun.

[animedreamer]

 When i see a phantom in close enough range  (not far away but not right on top of me) I havoc strike with impunity! then the buck shots begin.

[Xcam901]

Hellfire257 wrote...

Slayer eats phantoms for breakfast. Spec PD for shield damage and knockdown. A rag-dolled phantom is a dead phantom.

Why would I give up all that armor DPS, you can kill them just fine with armor damage PD. You also retain the abbility to have on-host cluck you collectors class.

[HYYP]

it could be worse: imagine phantoms had ranged insta-powers like overload

[Hellfire257]

Xcam901 wrote...

Hellfire257 wrote...

Slayer eats phantoms for breakfast. Spec PD for shield damage and knockdown. A rag-dolled phantom is a dead phantom.

Why would I give up all that armor DPS, you can kill them just fine with armor damage PD. You also retain the abbility to have on-host cluck you collectors class.

Compensate with incediary ammo + AP Hurricane. Fire explode all armoured targets.

[Innocent Bystander]

poonts wrote...

oh and ops pack use = no sync kill. try it.

melee = stagger = no ops pack = sync kill mostly

[capn233]

They are not cheap at all. In fact they are quite expensive.

My girlfriend is a Phantom and she demands I take her to expensive restaurants all the time and she spends all my credits on shoes.

Modifié par capn233, 30 mars 2013 - 02:45 .

[animedreamer]

capn233 wrote...

They are not cheap at all. In fact they are quite expensive.

My girlfriend is a Phantom and she demands I take her to expensive restaurants all the time and she spends all my credits on shoes.

 I suggest impaling her with your own monoblade. For your own satisfaction.

Modifié par animedreamer, 30 mars 2013 - 03:29 .

[ThisIsMadness91]

They might not be so bad if their palm cannons either didn't fire so fast or weren't as powerful as they are. Maybe I should have been more careful, but I recently got sync-killed twice immediately after using medi-gel and that just didn't seem fair. I seriously think I hate them more than Banshees and Praetorians.

They're also annoying cosmetically. Who thought it would be a good idea to add ninjas to Mass Effect, and who thought it would be a good idea to turn Kai Leng into one?

[Simba501]

Oz not Ozzy wrote...

Yes... Cerberus would have been little more than an annoyance without Phantoms, especially pre-Retaliation, but all that does is speak to the failings of the other Cerberus troops and how much the faction relies on the overpowered nature of one unit type.
 
Now, I know many people point to Dragoons and Turrets as well, but both of those units have very specific weaknesses that can be exploited by practically every character pretty much regardless of loadout.

Phantoms are the only enemy unit in any faction that I have to make sure I have a method of dealing with them specifically before I ready up for a Platinum or Gold match where I might encounter them.... that says it all really.

I'd really like to speak to whomever was responsible for deciding Phantoms should have one of the best ranged attacks, one of the best melee attacks, instakill, regeneration, damage reduction, incoming power denial and then, just to top it all off, give them a tactical cloak as well and ask them one question:

Seriously... What on Earth were you thinking?

[sharkboy421]

Luyza wrote...

poonts wrote...

oh and ops pack use = no sync kill. try it.

melee = stagger = no ops pack = sync kill mostly

Its still possible though I agree the timing of it all makes it very hard.  I've done it a few times, its quite funny to get stabbed then simply stand back up.

Modifié par sharkboy421, 30 mars 2013 - 03:28 .

[Ultimate Pheer]

There are three cerberus units capable of downing a good player: Phantom, turret, dragoon. and dragoons have to get close in packs and turrets rely on meatsheilds keeping you from noticing them until they have wiped all of you. Phantoms? If you don't know they are there, they will tear even a well prepared group to shreds.

[capn233]

animedreamer wrote...

capn233 wrote...

They are not cheap at all. In fact they are quite expensive.

My girlfriend is a Phantom and she demands I take her to expensive restaurants all the time and she spends all my credits on shoes.

 I suggest impaling her with your own monoblade. For your own satisfaction.

That usually costs some jewelry.

[cegr25]

Take an N7 paladin. Snap freeze, energy drain --> Cryo explosion, and instant death.

Assuming someone doesn't drain her shields why your powers are cooling down.

But I do still believe Cerberus is the second cheapest faction after the Collectors.

[Bhatair]

I had to make sure this wasn't a year old necro.

[poonts]

cegr25 wrote...

Take an N7 paladin. Snap freeze, energy drain --> Cryo explosion, and instant death.

Assuming someone doesn't drain her shields why your powers are cooling down.

But I do still believe Cerberus is the second cheapest faction after the CollectorsGeth.

i fix for you

[cegr25]

poonts wrote...

cegr25 wrote...

Take an N7 paladin. Snap freeze, energy drain --> Cryo explosion, and instant death.

Assuming someone doesn't drain her shields why your powers are cooling down.

But I do still believe Cerberus is the second cheapest faction after the CollectorsGeth.

i fix for you

I wholeheartedly disagree with this fix.

Geth are easy, lern 2 pleh.

Modifié par cegr25, 30 mars 2013 - 04:42 .

[WaffleCrab]

Slap on a weapon with alot of force per hit, or AoE and watch the phantoms helplessly struggle, or if you get bored, take a character with lash, and go have fun while juggling phantoms.

[poonts]

cegr25 wrote...

poonts wrote...

cegr25 wrote...

Take an N7 paladin. Snap freeze, energy drain --> Cryo explosion, and instant death.

Assuming someone doesn't drain her shields why your powers are cooling down.

But I do still believe Cerberus is the second cheapest faction after the CollectorsGeth.

i fix for you

I wholeheartedly disagree with this fix.

Geth are easy, lern 2 pleh.

says the one with 16 total plat extractions