12977 réponses à ce sujet

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

"The darkness cannot be breached."

 

"There is no war. Only the harvest."

 

Stupid Leviathans.

 

Bryson survived.

[von uber]

Decided to start posting DA:I images in the right thread, whilst studiously avoiding spoilers

[Daemul]

In the past week I managed to find the cure to my 9 month long Mass Effect rut, and so far I've managed to get through ME1 and half of ME2. I've gotten as far as doing 7 out of the 12 loyalty missions and I must say, it feels good to finally be enjoying playing Mass Effect again.

 

Over the past 9 months I had gotten bored with the series, and every time I tried to rectify it by starting a new fresh character or starting a NG+ with a recent character, I would get bored and delete the save within a few hours, but it never crossed my mind to try playing as my original Shepard, Male, Spacer, War Hero, Vanguard Shepard, who I hadn't played as in years, until I came across the save hidden in some random file on my 360's HDD, which must have been moved there by some a number of years ago. There's a nice sense of nostalgia playing as your first Shepard, and that's probably why I'm enjoying playing the games again, as I'm re-living the feelings I went through when I played the series for the first time.

 

The funny thing is that before I imported my OG Shepard I used gibbed to see which decisions I had originally made, and I was ashamed to see that it was literally a sea of blue. I was a blind Paragon player all those years ago, but you have to understand, I was a pimple faced 15 year old when I created that save and I was still hilariously naive on just how the world worked. Thankfully my latest Shepards aren't inflicted with the terrible decisions I made those years ago, but still, I'm heavily enjoying it, and I'm looking forward to adding some heavy pragmatism to my Pure Paragon OG Shepard. 

 

Now It's time for me to go and do my 6th loyalty mission(and 8th overall) of the day and help Zaeed kill Vido Santiago. Fry you son of a b****!

[fraggle]

(This post is way longer than I intended, but I had this idea and it kind of grew from there... I'll try to keep it shorter next time.)

 

Love reading stuff like this, so, don't be short

 

Today I took care of yet some more distractions. Since I was on the Citadel anyway, having informed Garoth about his brother's death, I ran into Conrad again. He had the glorious idea of becoming a Spectre himself. I told him as gently as I could that he's not Spectre material, but I guess he took it the wrong way as he stomped off and I got the impression he really wanted to prove himself.

I found an old krogan armor in a pirate hideout, maybe I could ask Wrex about it at some point. I also retrieved a lost data module from a monkey.

After that I followed a distress call, only to be ambushed by geth. Destroyed all of them and since I was in a mood to get rid of more geth, I investigated geth activity on 4 planets in the Armstrong Nebula. Even shot down a geth dropship.

Feros was calling. Right when we landed geth attacked us, and Williams, T'Soni and I took them down without any effort. We proceeded to the colony Zhu's Hope, but everyone I talked with sent me to their leader Fai Dan. We helped this Fai Dan get rid of the geth problem, and helped the colonists get back on their feet by providing running water, killing an alpha varren and collecting a power cell. There also was a weird colonist in the tunnels.

We proceeded to the ExoGeni Headquarters and met a few employees on the way. There's a mother looking for her daughter, Lizbeth Baynham, whom I found in the ExoGeni building right away. We learned about a so-called Thorian, a mind-controlling plant creature, then made our way through to a geth dropship claw attached to the HQ and slammed the door shut. The dropship fell down and we could leave with Lizbeth. We reunited her with her mother, but things are tense. Ethan Jeong is not happy with what's going on. He left me no choice but to shoot him.

Lizbeth's mother suggests to use a nerve gas on the colonists, and I agreed to do it. However, when we arrived back at Zhu's Hope, we see creatures running around. If that's what the colonists might turn into, I don't want to take any chances. Liara begged me to consider the nerve gas again, and I half-agree. I'll use it when I can. We shot 6 colonists, but the rest made it out alive. We dealt with the Thorian and an asari was released from it. She had served Matriarch Benezia and explained Saren's plans with the Thorian. She offered me to also give me the Cipher, which should make more sense of the vision. Got the Cipher, but I killed the asari afterwards. If she's still indoctrinated I don't want her running around freely.

The remaining colonists thanked me for their help and we returned to the Normandy. Will talk to my crew tomorrow, but for now I call it a day.

 

Aaah, killing Shiala was hard. The way she surrendered before I killed her... She could've at least put up a fight, I wouldn't have felt so bad then

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Aaah, killing Shiala was hard. The way she surrendered before I killed her... She could've at least put up a fight, I wouldn't have felt so bad then

 

Don't feel bad. I was playing this on some good indi and had Liara and Kaidan on this mission. Shep was a bit of a renegade, and I just knew anyone associated with Saren had to be bad, and the way Liara talked about her mother, I just thought it would be for the best to use summary judgement with extreme prejudice. It was bad enough that she didn't put up a fight, but she put her hands behind her head and got down on her knees and waited, and there was no way to change your mind. Then I don't know how but Shepard felt two eyes boring holes in the back of her head from Liara, so I reloaded the game. Shot out the last root and had to re-experience the scene, this time sparing her life.

 

I mean she didn't deserve it like Rana Thanoptis.

[fraggle]

Liara affects you that much, huh? Everyone has a character like that, I suppose (the moral compass).

 

It's funny, because I also had my mind set on not using the nerve gas after seeing the thorian creepers... thanks to Liara as well, I did what I could to save a few

I never saw Liara as that influencing before (mainly probably because I played pro-alien characters so far, letting many people go, talk them out of something etc.), but now I play this not-trusting-aliens-character Liara is a very reasonable voice imo. Same as Kaidan. They both can be the moral compass and probably will be throughout my current run.

[KotorEffect3]

Today Sandra became a spectre.  Will probably pick up Liara tomorrow.

[fraggle]

As for Liara, I hate her little dialogue bit about it being up to me to make humans look better. She's not a moral compass to me, for saying that. What she's proposing reminds me of "white guilt" in a way... this need to go above and beyond, for no reason... just out of mysterious guilt and where you come from. It'd be different she simply asked you to be compassionate, but she attaches it to race issues (in multiple cases).

 

Well, Liara got it for that dialogue because it fit for my character. Just in some cases, I can see myself listening to her and maybe overcome the prejudices my current character has.

 

But hm, I've never seen it the way you see it. Guess I didn't read too much into what Liara wanted to achieve with this dialogue, beyond seeing Shepard as someone who could change the views of alien races on humanity.

Liara said that she herself thought of humanity as a joke, and only realising she was wrong after she interacted more with Shepard and crew. I'd guess it's just her desire to get rid of prejudices and to unite the galaxy more, to achieve a mutual understanding. Coming from a species that tries to understand everyone I don't really see anything wrong with it. If the player picks up on this wish depends on each individual.

[Winterking]

It's funny, because I also had my mind set on not using the nerve gas after seeing the thorian creepers... thanks to Liara as well, I did what I could to save a few

I never saw Liara as that influencing before (mainly probably because I played pro-alien characters so far, letting many people go, talk them out of something etc.), but now I play this not-trusting-aliens-character Liara is a very reasonable voice imo. Same as Kaidan. They both can be the moral compass and probably will be throughout my current run.

Liara is usually the more renegade of the two. Take both to the Citadel battle and she will be the one suggesting to sacrifice the council.

 

I thought this happened with Kaidan only but I've seen it happen with Ashley. Really strange hearing Ashley urging Shepard to save the Council and Liara saying that we need to sacrifice the council for the greater good.

[geth47]

Just finished a new run on Sunday. I´m planning my next runs. The one I just finished was a biotic male romancing jack, started on me2.

 

I have already done full trilogy runs as soldier, adept and vanguard. I will probably try a sentinel next (a female one romancing kaidan), then an infiltrator female romancing liara over the whole trilogy, one soldier male romancing ash and an engineer male romancing miranda or tali.  These 4 runs should last until the end of the year. 

 

And to think I barely touched DAI... What a letdown this game was. 

[Daemul]

Just finished a new run on Sunday. I´m planning my next runs. The one I just finished was a biotic male romancing jack, started on me2.

 

I have already done full trilogy runs as soldier, adept and vanguard. I will probably try a sentinel next (a female one romancing kaidan), then an infiltrator female romancing liara over the whole trilogy, one soldier male romancing ash and an engineer male romancing miranda or tali.  These 4 runs should last until the end of the year. 

 

And to think I barely touched DAI... What a letdown this game was. 

 

Mass Effect is much better than Dragon Age. It is known. 

[geth47]

Well, Dragon Age 1 was definitely a bigger game than any mass effect title. It had a lot more content, as well as several story dlcs. But bigger rarely equals better. 

 

Even though I enjoyed DA1 quite a lot (and to some extent, even DA2), DAI to me is just a silly single-player mmorpg with dialogue trees and party comments. A drastic change that makes me worry about ME4 being similar, with a heavy focus on starship survey and mako planetary exploration. 

 

All in all (either from a graphical standpoint, control, difficulty, general plot, dialogues, romance, characters, lore, races, special powers, weapons...) each ME can win hands down. 

 

I also have the feeling that DA1 was way too over-budget given its long development cycle. And it wasn´t even a graphic milestone when released. As for 2, too short budget and time. 

 

I always had the impression that the so called "console team" (kotor/jade/me) was more organized and conscious in matters of development time, costs and planned content. They simply had a better grasp at the situations, they seem more balanced and concerned about what to prioritize. 

 

I mean, that woman from the DA team (helpless, hopeless or something like that was her name, good riddance) was bragging about every character being player-sexual (please read bisexual) in da2. I mean, instead of concentrating in making a real good rpg it became just a sjw platform for people with no grasp at rpgs and the necessity to diferentiate the character and making content that requires the player to adapt in order to reach the goal and not the goal reach any player with no relevance regarding the decisions used when constructing the characters. Luckily they fixed this in DAI, but the rest of the game seemed like another genre and not a true rpg. It´s even worse than ME1 collectibles side-objectives. Grinding is good in online competitive gaming and free to play games, but strikes me as inadequate in games when we payed already 60 or more bucks, if done in excess. 

 

And while I am not entirely against the representation of alternative sex/lifestyles in gaming (or any other media) or even the option of experiencing gay romances (after all we can commit torture, treason, murder, use of black magic, biological weapons and even wipe-out entire groups, colonies or races by genocide), I think too much emphasis was put into this. I mean, people who play rpgs have bigger interest than seeing homosexual characters talking dirty, trying to be nice, pass on advances or bragging about their style. ME did the very same thing, but with better taste and much more class, without sounding like something forced that we all had to simply digest and as if we had to feel guilty if we did not like it. 

 

The only thing I think DA (specially 1) might have done better than ME is the emotional weight of some of the decisions taken and the role it would play out in the end. You could shape people, locations, armies and events around you in DA1 in a way you could not in ME1. This is, to me, DA´s crowning element of glory. But I´m still much more of a ME enthusiast. 

 

DA is now the "rpg" for the people who have no real interest in rpgs. And that is not even concerned with offering a rpg classic experience. Even mass effect 1, a shooter/rpg hybrid of sorts, or even me2 and 3 (90% shooter, 10% rpg) had a better resemblance to rpgs. And were a lot more fun to play and explore, either from a gameplay or story perspective.

[in it for the lolz]

I beat ME 2 and 3 with John S-117 in March (oops!). But I am doing a rerun with him.

 

Here's a ending song I picked for when I beat ME3 again(yes, it's form Halo. sometimes I can't stop myself. Also try not to cry form the feels, enjoy! :

[fraggle]

Her species has been holding power over others through lies and deception. I don't think they care to understand.

 

True enough, some big surprises during the Trilogy Those were just Liara's own words, and I believe she really believes it, but we all didn't know in ME1 what was about to come, hehe.

On a side note it's really cool that you can bring up this case exactly with Kaidan, when you tell him that asari are manipulative. Well, well

 

Mass Effect is much better than Dragon Age. It is known. 

 

I used to be a biiig DA fan. Loved all of those games. I even stopped playing ME2 to play through everything again in order to prepare for DAI last year.

Now... I think ME took the throne.

Not that I still don't love DA, I do, but Mass Effect... sigh

[von uber]

When I become supreme ruler of the world it will be a capital offence to use the term Social Justice Warrior.

[MrGDL87]

Renegade  John Shepard...

 

Started Mass Effect on insanity, Shepard is still an Adept but he has biotic flare as his bonus ability rather than dominate. Biotic flare is more destructive and fits well with a renegade attitude.

A few months have past since the Arrival incident and the Reapers are more or less on the galaxy's doorstep. Shepard wasn't too concerned though and twiddled his thumbs for a couple of months because he was "relieved of duty". The Defence Committee wanted a word and Shepard met Councillor Anderson (except he isn't a councillor now ). Anderson still spoke like a councillor though as he said he's not sure it's the Reapers. Shepard also ran into Kaidan who was promoted to Major and now technically outranks him.

 

Shepard was brought before the Defence Committee and they said that they don't know what's going on (That's reassuring ). Shepard motivated the Committee by telling them "we fight or we die" and the meeting was interrupted by a Reaper laser. Shepard didn't follow his own advice of fighting/dying and chose option 3 of fleeing to the Normandy. Shepard managed to look at his Codex which showed that Anderson isn't a councillor as he chose to "step down". Shepard gave Anderson a powerful position on the council to get things done and he just steps down!!! . Shepard isn't happy about this and Udina is the second human councillor. Shepard hasn't partaken in any renegade activity over the past few months as the renegade meter has depleted to a fifth.

 

Shepard's flare ability was upgraded to rank 6 and focused heavily on the damage side. Used flare a lot against the cannibals and threw a couple in the lake. At one point the Reaper forces weren't letting up and Shepard abandoned the fight/die creed again by going to the Normandy. Anderson remained on Earth.

(I like the 'Leaving Earth' theme and this is the best theme IMO because it's a sad theme combined with Reaper sounds )

 

Hackett called in and knew of a location that could help with the Reaper invasion. This information was on Earth's neighbouring planet Mars. Cerberus had a presence on Mars but surely Shepard's former colleagues were friendly (as he only worked with them less than a year ago)... nope, they shot on sight . These enemy shots weren't enough to persuade Kaidan who still had a suspicious mind about Shepard's relationship with Cerberus. Kaidan was told to mind his own business and he isn't owed an explanation. Encountered Liara and she was more active than the last time Shepard saw her.

(I balanced out everyone's powers so that every skill is at rank 3)

 

Liara was trying to brag about her singularity prowess but Shepard wasn't impressed as he can use singularities and flare explosions. Liara could brag about being able to use warp ammo though. Shepard fought his way past Cerberus guards using a singularity/flare combo (this combination is definitely my favourite because it's a double explosion and rarely leaves the enemy standing ). Shepard and Kaidan realised that the Cerberus troops were modified and went further into the facility.

 

Shepard found the archives and had a chat with The Illusive Man. Shepard told him that he saved the base to use to defeat the reapers. The Illusive Man ranted on and called Shepard "a tool" so their relationship is over. Eva stole the data and Shepard pursued. Shepard wished that Liara's stasis power would have worked as this would have made it a lot easier . Eva thought she got away but was brought back crashing down. Evil Eva wasn't done though as she walked through an inferno to injure Kaidan. Eva was deactivated and Shepard left Mars as soon as the Reapers were landing.

 

Finally, Shepard went to the Citadel and told Allers to go away.

Shepard didn't die once today. (I didn't realise that a one hour playthrough would equate to this many paragraphs )                    

[von uber]

An offense to call out a person as one?

 

Or in being one?

 

In using the term. It's a deliberate gross oversimplification of a complex issue which is mainly used to try and shut down an opposing side of the debate.

It's something I have noticed a lot as I have grown older and uglier; things are polarised using easy throw away phrases and groupings and serve to do nothing but antagonise people. SJW is one such term.

 

So come my benevolent iron fisted rule, that will be one of the capital offences. Along with people who read the Daily Mail.

[geth47]

Yeah, just like laboring people as anti-Semite, racist, sexist, xenophobic, trans-phobic, misogynist, homophobic... 

 

To summarize: Typical SJW tatic and  vocabulary.

 

Way to go. 

[Daemul]

Do SJW's even exist outside of the internet? I only ever see them in places like Twitter or Tumblr where they can practice their activism from the safety of their bedrooms. I have never run into one in real life, not even on my University Campus, where internet activists are said to congregate. Maybe it's because in real life you would get a fist to your face if you tried to pull some the same nonsense that you can get away with on the internet.