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About half the time we are fighting Cerberus instead or Reapers. Heck, in 2 DLCs we are fighting Cerberus, and in a third one we are dealing with a recent break-up faction from it. To me, it makes no sense having cerberus in such a big role and not having jack around to beat them up. I mean, if they did let us have Tali when could be simply limited to fighting the geth chapter, I don´t know why they did not offered us a chance to have Jack too.

 

Another thing that surprised me was not being able to recruit Thane´s son, kolyat krios. From the moment I saw their loyalty mission I was conviced that he was being set up to become a regular in ME3. His father by then is either too ill, dead from his illness of simply perished in the suicide mission. As Grunt is kind of a replacement for Wrex in ME2, Kolyat could be a revamped Thane in ME3. Shepard could recruit him after he was apprehended for killing a politician in ME2  (dragon age 1 awakening anyone?) evewn if you never met thane. If thane died fighting the collectors or after ME2, you just needed to convince him to fight at your side. Yes, the way you recruit him would need a different scene, and some of his comments during the game would differ, but it would not be a logistical nightmare in terms of conditional content. It could be made in a very affordable way. Just another wasted opportunity. 

 

If maelon could not be conditionally dead as well, he would be the most logical to recruit to cure the krogan (he was close to doing this anyway) since the Council was desperate for Krogan support. 

 

Well, at least the ME team did not try the cheap trick of being back from the dead like DA did with Anders and Leliana. Dead means dead in ME. The only exception being Legion (kind of), but it makes sense in its case. The Geth could perfectly try to create another VI in case the first one never reported back or was destroyed. 

 

But still, I would have loved to take a sole survivor Shepard to cronos station together with Ashley and Jack. 

 

ME3 is great. But if not by timing and budget constraints it could have been so much greater. 


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Kolyat actually did have a role at first. If Thane was dead, he and Kasumi had this big story arc leading up to the Citadel Coup.. it was tied into her mission about the indoctrinated Hanar, but on a much bigger scale. 

 

Then they had to cut it.. like many other things.


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While I'm okay about Kaidan being bisexual in ME3, I'm not keen about the Suddenly Sexuality trope considering a lot of his ME1's conversation with BroShep was gender-gated (unless you mod it) and he's pretty consistent with his attraction to women in ME1. I would love it better if they made James as bisexual instead of Kaidan. In Paragon Lost and Conviction, its quiet obvious that James have a crush for Shepard (regardless of gender) and they already have a great start in ME3 and all the sexual tension and flirting could have work on BroShep too. And there would be more content for him since James is your permanent squad from the start. I guess they scrap this and push it forward in Dragon Age Inquisition with Iron Bull.

 

The major focus on Cerberus in ME3 was hinted in Ascension by Drew Karpyshyn. I don't think ME3 was supposed to set around Reaper War but more like an all out war between Alliance and Cerberus with Cerberus using reaper tech from the Collector's base. I guess they didn't want to reuse the Reaper/Dark Energy foreshadowing in ME3.
 

BTW, I'm replaying Trooper and Imperial Agent. It was like playing FemShep while she was training under N7 program. andI love that FemHawke laughs while she's on killing rampage. I heard Grunt, Varric, Liara, Aveline and Jack in the game. But I suddenly gotten ill since two days ago, all those cramps, sore throat, vomiting and nasty bits... so I couldn't play too many video games today. :(


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BTW, I'm replaying Trooper and Imperial Agent. It was like playing FemShep while she was training under N7 program. andI love that FemHawke laughs while she's on killing rampage. I heard Grunt, Varric, Liara, Aveline and Jack in the game. But I suddenly gotten ill since two days ago, all those cramps, sore throat, vomiting and nasty bits... so I couldn't play too many video games today. :(

 

What are you talking about? Imperial Agent? You mean TOR?



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I think I mention it a couple of posts before and yup, swtor. I was planning on getting TESO since its much cheaper (in my currency) on Steam than swtor from my local vendors.... then May the Fourth happened. Bought the bundle for $29.99 from Amazon. Got all the expansion packs, some cash shop money and 60 days subscription. I probably saved around RM200.... Amazing how I could do compulsive buying while I was anemic and lethargic and headache-y and body cramps..... and insomnia.... (look at time.. 4am) sigh...okay, im gonna lie down and read a book or something.


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Renegade :devil: John Shepard on insanity...

 

Started on the Citadel to try and get Council support so Shepard went straight to the embassy area. Went to Bailey's office and saw a disagreement between Bailey and Al Jilani. Bailey didn't want to disclose any information and Al Jilani left the office. Al Jilani is more cunning than she appears though as she left the camera behind (which is probably recording :bandit:) to snoop on Shepard and Bailey's conversation. Shepard went back to Al Jilani to speak to her about the spycam but she turned it into an interview. Shepard didn't like her attitude so he attempted to punch her. Al Jilani foresaw this predictable attack as she has been victim to this manoeuvre twice before. Al Jilani blocked and she knocked Shepard on his ass with her own punch. She then said "I've no more questions for you!" and walked away B). So Al Jilani got her revenge in style and she probably has a personal recording of it as well to reminisce. Shepard swallowed his pride and decided to see the Council. The Council board is full of new faces but gets the same old reaction of not getting any assistance.

 

Shepard was granted Spectre status by the Turian councillor and he left the Citadel. There was no visitation to the hospital to see Kaidan and no doctor recruitment. Shepard had a dream about a combustible child :? and woke with an introduction to the Comm specialist. He didn't bother to explore the rest of the Normandy and didn't talk to any crew members.

 

The next location was Menae to rescue a Primarch. Shepard didn't bother with any side-distractions like extracting potential resources from planets as he went straight to the moon. Encountered Garrus and fought through Reaper forces. Shepard didn't face too much trouble as he relied on the biotic flare ability. His confidence grew and even attempted to throw a flare at the larger reapers. The flare explosion did hit the Reaper but Shepard didn't get any attention <_<. Used a Reaper Blackstar against a couple of brutes and reached Victus.

 

Next stop will be a Krogan/Salarian summit.             


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I think I mention it a couple of posts before and yup, swtor. I was planning on getting TESO since its much cheaper (in my currency) on Steam than swtor from my local vendors.... then May the Fourth happened. Bought the bundle for $29.99 from Amazon. Got all the expansion packs, some cash shop money and 60 days subscription. I probably saved around RM200.... Amazing how I could do compulsive buying while I was anemic and lethargic and headache-y and body cramps..... and insomnia.... (look at time.. 4am) sigh...okay, im gonna lie down and read a book or something.

 

I downloaded TOR once, but never got past character creation. I heard it was fun enough, even if played like a single player game. I might try it again sooner or later. I don't care for the MMO aspect though.

 

 

 

 

 

... One more thing on the Jack note.. This doesn't make sense to me. Their default ME2 survivors seem impossible to accomplish. Or am I wrong? Jack and Thane die in the suicide mission, Samara never recruited. Grunt and Legion never activated.. Zaeed and Kasumi never recruited. So who does the "bubble" sequence? Someone would die... but Miranda, Mordin, Jacob, Garrus, and Tali live. And there are no Normandy upgrades, so Jack and Thane must've died without even getting to the mission at all.

 

It doesn't surprise me that Weekes pushed for Tali -- but their default story doesn't even make sense now, without the biotic specialist. I remember during ME2's launch though that he said he loathed Jack and anyone like her...and joked about killing her off. He got his wish (she wasn't his character btw.. it was Brian Kindregan. I don't think Weekes ever wanted the job).

 

But they woudn't have gone through the trouble of redesigning her if they didn't mean to have a bigger role. Here's some more, with her hair down:

 

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Anyways... Just playing ME2 again. Rescued Garrus again. All of the above is starting to annoy me right now, because I'm noticing that even the Merc Leaders in Garrus' mission have more dialogue than some of the ME3 characters.. That's the level Thane has been reduced to. lol. He's practically lifeless, sitting in the hospital. While in ME2, he's a f*cking poet.


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Today Naomi saved some civilians on Benning and destroyed a Cerberus cruiser with a big ground cannon :) She also made a dent in Harvester population on Tuchanka ;)

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As for ME2 squadmate discussion, IMO they should've given players option to recruit at least one of ME2 characters. They could've made it conditional, like refusing Kaidan on the Normandy gives you the option to recruit Jack since Kaidan is put in charge of the Grissom students. Ah, well, it was not the only thing cut short due to the time and resource constraints. I think Mass Effect 3 was too ambitious for its time and technology. 


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Today Naomi saved some civilians on Benning and destroyed a Cerberus cruiser with a big ground cannon :) She also made a dent in Harvester population on Tuchanka ;)

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As for ME2 squadmate discussion, IMO they should've given players option to recruit at least one of ME2 characters. They could've made it conditional, like refusing Kaidan on the Normandy gives you the option to recruit Jack since Kaidan is put in charge of the Grissom students. Ah, well, it was not the only thing cut short due to the time and resource constraints. I think Mass Effect 3 was too ambitious for its time and technology. 

 

The technology is there. Time, I understand. 

 

If they really cared though, they would've tried making up for some of it in Citadel. Instead, the fan-service was limited to Wrex in the main quest. Even though Miranda, out of anyone, made the most sense there.



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I've returned to ME3MP again, and I'm getting a lot of fun with my Smashguard WarpTalon build (currently un-rusting myself at Silver, thou I ended up 1st with 130k in a Gold bout I tried just for the sake of trying).



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The technology is there. Time, I understand. 

 

If they really cared though, they would've tried making up for some of it in Citadel. Instead, the fan-service was limited to Wrex in the main quest. Even though Miranda, out of anyone, made the most sense there.

Technology had limitations, like memory size on the old-gen consoles which is greatly increased on PS4 and Xbox One. Those constraints limited the amount of units that could be present on the screen at a given time, which is part of the reason why Priority Earth is so underwhelming. 

 

Jack's Citadel content is great! As for the main quest of that DLC... I agree. 



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Technology had limitations, like memory size on the old-gen consoles which is greatly increased on PS4 and Xbox One. Those constraints limited the amount of units that could be present on the screen at a given time, which is part of the reason why Priority Earth is so underwhelming. 

 

Jack's Citadel content is great! As for the main quest of that DLC... I agree. 

 

Yeah, her content is great. 

 

And while I like Wrex --- a lot more than Miranda - I'm trying to be objective. She would've fit that quest well. Besides, there was a stat floating around that a whopping 64% of players don't even have Wrex. I was surprised. Miranda is a helluva lot more popular than that.



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Yeah, her content is great. 

 

And while I like Wrex --- a lot more than Miranda - I'm trying to be objective. She would've fit that quest well. Besides, there was a stat floating around that a whopping 67% of players don't even have Wrex. I was surprised. Miranda is a helluva lot more popular than that.

Well, tbh, the same can be said about her content in the main game. She should've played a much larger role, especially with all the focus on Cerberus. But... Suicide Mission. She can be dead and therefore should not have any major role... 

But yeah, I'm surprised at the amount of content Wrex got. Not only because of the stats you mentioned, but also because Wrex is not present in the default playthrough of ME3. 



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Well, tbh, the same can be said about her content in the main game. She should've played a much larger role, especially with all the focus on Cerberus. But... Suicide Mission. She can be dead and therefore should not have any major role... 

But yeah, I'm surprised at the amount of content Wrex got. Not only because of the stats you mentioned, but also because Wrex is not present in the default playthrough of ME3. 

 

She's harder to kill than Garrus and Tali. There's only one fail point for Miranda and Jacob. 

 

That excuse works somewhat for Jack, but then... she's no more killable than Garrus or Tali either. 

 

Wrex got that content the same reason Tali did. Writers acting like fanboys. Dombrow took over Wrex and Garrus, and he's completely fanboy-ish about them. Not even the original creator (Walters) acted like that. 



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Ah, well, it was not the only thing cut short due to the time and resource constraints. I think Mass Effect 3 was too ambitious for its time and technology. 

 

Pretty much my thoughts. You could have even left it at "too ambitious" without even mentioning time and technology.

 

I have said this before, but I think Mass Effect 1-3 were the first series of its kind that carried decisions made from one game forward into its sequel(s). It may have been too ambitious an undertaking at the time, and even though most of use agree that it did not end as well as we hoped, I think that they managed to accomplish a series of this scale was absolutely incredible.

 

Whether BioWare attempts something like this in the future, or another developer does, Mass Effect set a pretty high bar for such a template.

 

In the future, developers will need to plan out the series more in advance than what they did, and would probably need to scale back some of the scope with each game.

 

But yeah, regardless of how I feel about Mass Effect 3 (a good but not great game, unfulfilled potential), I think the series as a whole was a remarkable achievement.


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Well said, but the problem with planning too much ahead is that they need the public input in order to make changes in the games. It´s not just an artistic creation. It is, more than anything, a large and risky investment in a product designed for the mass market. 

 

 

Just try to imagine the faces of the developers and the investors at EA when they realized that the villain or the secondary characters or the plot that they had so many ambitions reserved for were panned by the public. If the character they were betting as being the most popular end up being reject by the audience.  

 

If the ending fiasco proved one thing is that bioware did not truly know what their audience expected. They failed to predict the reactions. And they ended up altering the already-released game in an attempt to better suit the audience´s taste. 

 

Maybe a small indie game like Consortium (planned to be a trilogy too), with a much smaller budget could try such a feat, but an AAA title? I don´t think so...

 

 

I have the impression that the concept of the temporary squad-mate in ME2´s DLCs (Shadown Broker, with Liara plus one normal squadmate) and Arrival (Dr. Amanda Kenson) were test cases for what they were planning for the ME2 cast in ME3. With each survivor being with you for a mission or a mini-arc (in the case of Tali). 

 

i would not be surprised that the aborted content planned for them, like their models and power setups, instead of being entirely dumped, survived being re-used in the citadel DLC inside the arena. Not as good as having them for a mission, but certainly better than seeing it totally discarded. 


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You guys are too nice. I think they were just being self-indulgent when it came to character content. And missing the forest for the trees. For example, as much as I like Garrus, his amount of dialogue is overkill. He has like 4 different lines after every mission... all variations on the same topic. They should've spread this out. Even just taking two lines from him would've enriched other characters.

 

I liked him better in ME1 and 2. If he wasn't stuttering, then he was calibrating.

 

"Commander..... I......just wanted...to say....ummm... thanks."

 

"That's quite the speech, Garrus" :D



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Well, just started a new series playthrough. I wanted to try and roleplay an older Shepard (I know it doesn't quite fit the lore but what the heck, I've moved his birth date and Torfan a bit back in time). So meet Nathan Shepard:

 

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Background: Born in 2137 and growing up in a military family, Shepard's youth was marked by the discovery of the prothean ruins on Mars and the emergence of humanities presence in space. Shepard wanted to be part of this new chapter for mankind and signed up to take advanced engineering courses at the newly founded Alliance military academy. He was just about to finish his studies and the accompanying officers training on the new Arcturus station when the First Contact War broke out. The war ended before Shepard could be deployed but he was initiated in the special forces training program instead and with the impression that humanity's grand exploratory adventure may turn into a violent struggle at any point fresh in his mind, he threw himself into training with vigor, completing the N1-6 courses in record time and with exceptional results. As such a star pupil, he was given responsibilities of command quickly, graduated to N7 and fought in several skirmishes against raider and slaver groups of Terminus or batarian origin in the Attican Traverse. During this time, Shepard and his team developed a reputation for getting the job done, even if the odds were against them, so Alliance brass decided to make use of this particular talent and sent them on an extremely high risk retaliatory operation on Torfan. He and his team were ambushed. Most of his squad were killed instantly, a few were wounded and only Shepard managed to escape capture. He had to watch from a hiding place while the batarian attackers tortured and killed the survivors of his team. When the batarians - convinced they had killed the entire team - set up camp and relaxed, Shepard managed to take out the sentries quietly and caught the remaining forces unprepared and off guard. In a quick attack, he killed almost the entire group and when the few remaining unarmed enemies tried to surrender, he let his rage over the death of his teammates get the better of him and slaughtered them all.

This event stalled Shepard's career and despite good performances he was never promoted beyond the rank of commander. It came as a surprise when Captain Anderson specifically requested him as an XO for the shakedown run of the Normandy.

 

Character: He is generally a good guy, who believes that, in principle, his job is saving and protecting people but he is also a grizzled war veteran who has seen a lot of bad things in his life and has learned the hard way that sometimes, you have to get your hands dirty to get things done. While he is very professional on the job, he is also quite frustrated with his situation and has little patience with other people, especially young hotshots, smartasses and bureaucrats. He is also deeply scarred by the events on Torfan. While many consider him a stone cold killer because of it, that is not how he remembers the events and he doesn't like anyone talking to him about it, even less so, if they draw all the wrong conclusions about the motives behind his actions.

 

Class: Engineer with assault rifles

 

So far, he made it through the ordeal of Eden Prime and onto the Citadel. Together with Udina and Anderson, he presented his case to the Council but they chose to ignore him. Needless to say, he was neither pleased nor surprised.


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We took care of a lot of husks in the derelict freighter MSV Cornucopia, then Hackett called in about Major Kyle, my old CO on Torfan. We went to see his little commune and I asked him nicely to come with me, but he refused. I shot him and we killed all of his attacking biotic followers. Sorry, I tried. But maybe he's better off dead anyway, seems like he's lost it completely.

Afterwards we dealt with more rachni and helped Lieutenant Durand and her team to fight off these things.


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Today I gave a shot again to my pure melee build to see if it was any Gold-worthy. Ended up being my first Gold solo :D (Glacier/Geth, with Hack - Escort - Hack).


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Today I gave a shot again to my pure melee build to see if it was any Gold-worthy. Ended up being my first Gold solo :D (Glacier/Geth).

 

I haven't played MP in awhile.. always liked melee'ing with a batarian though.. (even if it wasn't optimal :D).


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I haven't played MP in awhile.. always liked melee'ing with a batarian though.. (even if it wasn't optimal :D).

 

I've also done an almost-Silver solo (stabbed in Wave 10 (Hack) by a Banshee....pure bad luck and criteria from my part :( ) with my Talon Smashguard build (objectives completed: escort and pizza). I consider I'd have completed it anyways if it wasn't for that mistake, as I arrived to W10 with almost all my consumables (save 2 medi-gels and 1 ops pack out of 6) and way too easily (Giant / Reapers). That class is also definitely Gold-ready :)



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Today was a hard day for Naomi. First Tarquin Victus,

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then Mordin...  :crying:

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At least she saw some Rachni getting squashed with debris :D


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Today we tackled Virmire. On the way to the Salarian camp we shot some geth with the Mako and everything went smooth.

Once at camp, I met Captain Kirrahe, who told me that Saren had a cure to the genophage in order to breed a krogan army at this facility. Wrex overheard this and got upset when Kirrahe insisted on destroying everything. I went to talk to him. It's clear Wrex's loyalty is fragile right now, and I told him to follow my order. But he made his choice, not budging, and I shot him. Damn it.

Kirrahe told us his plan, I formed Team Shadow with Williams and T'Soni and sent Alenko with the salarians, I don't know about these salarians, but Alenko will get the job done. He's a good soldier.

We proceeded to the facility, getting rid of geth and their defenses along the way. Before entering we triggered an alarm on the far side of the facility, leaving it up to Kirrahe and his men to take on the enemies and clearing a path for our mission.

Inside we stumbled over indoctrinated salarians, some of them were also in cells. I did not let them out, no way I'm risking that. We killed a doctor and a few husks and then met an asari, Rana Thanoptis. She's working for Saren and I took the chance to learn more about indoctrination. Then I shot her.

Down in Saren's lab was another Prothean Beacon, and we activated a hologram of the giant ship, Sovereign. It's an actual Reaper. After that talk we met up with the Normandy at the bomb site and Williams started readying it. Alenko was pinned down at the AA tower, so Williams suggests I head there to get him out of there. I took T'Soni and Vakarian, but a geth ship appearing at the bomb site forced me to make a decision. I told Alenko we're coming for him, and Williams to hold on, that we'll get her out after, but we both know it's not gonna happen.

We reached the tower, getting rid of the geth there. Saren appeared and we shot at him until he grabbed me. I used the split-second he turned his face from me to punch him. He fled and the Normandy picked us and the salarians up.

Kaidan asked why I came for him. I snapped and yelled at him to not question me, I did what I had to do. But that's not the truth, and I'm furious at myself. I let my feelings get in the way. I chose to save Kaidan because I want this. After years I found someone who made me feel again and I didn't want to loose it in that moment.

Right now I can't face anyone on the ship and I think about what that means for me and Kaidan. I don't know if we can have a future if I can't control my emotions during missions, I can't jeopardise everything like this. But... maybe, just for a little while.

 

Poor Hannah, she's gonna be in for an unpleasant ride in the love department :devil:

Initially I wanted to let Ash kill Wrex, but the more I thought about it the more it made sense I did it myself. It was hard, first time proceeding without Wrex :crying: :pinched:


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Proceeding without wrex is great. Scrap legion too.
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