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[Farangbaa]

Finally got around to starting a pure renegade, "make the opposite of my normal choice" trilogy run last night. 

 

Custom femshep, Colonist, Ruthless, Engineer.  Visited Eden Prime, killed some geth, was a......ahem, "not very nice" lady to everyone she talked to.  She will be running around the Citadel telling people off and generally making an *** of herself later tonight.

 

The problem I have with pure renegade is that such a person would never, ever climb to the position Shepard's in and will rise to. 

[von uber]

The problem I have with pure renegade is that such a person would never, ever climb to the position Shepard's in and will rise to.

I concur; my preference is definitely renegon. You get the best of both worlds, being a hero without being naive or a push over.

[Ryriena]

I concur; my preference is definitely renegon. You get the best of both worlds, being a hero without being naive or a push over.

Agreed.. I love the renegade interrupt for paragon.

[Obadiah]

I concur; my preference is definitely renegon. You get the best of both worlds, being a hero without being naive or a push over.

You also get an awesome scar face as a bonus.

[Farangbaa]

I always fix my face. I'm vain.

[Daemul]

I always fix my face. I'm vain.

Agreed. 

[cap and gown]

Today I learned that the Leviathan and Shifty Cow are relatives. Or at least members of the same gang. I did the final Leviathan mission and after I was done the Normandy had no gas, and my wallet was empty. 360k credits just up and vanished. So I had to restart the mission, checking after every wave whether I still had my money and making a save. Shep is back on the Normandy now and her wallet is satisfyingly fat. Not that I really need the cash. All my main weapons are fully upgraded, all the mods bought, all the models purchased, and all the fish swimming happily away.

 

I also did the Turian Platoon, Tuchanka bomb duet. Wrex is still not happy with me even after preventing that bomb from going off. Yo, Wrex, I could have let the thing blow up if I had wanted to. So cut me some slack here.

 

Next up: curing the Genophage. I am not going to tell Wrex about the Dalatrass's deal. I did that once after refusing to apologize for destroying Maelon's data, so I have already seen that dialogue path. But I will let Mordin take his fateful ride up the elevator. Wrex is just too cool in the Citadel DLC to kill him. And the scene where Shepard kills Wrex is just too awful for my tastes.

[cap and gown]

Genophage cured. Krogan free. New beginning. For all of us.

 

The Brute fight was wild. I must have done something to trigger a respawning glitch because I ended up fighting wave after wave of Brutes. It was a lotta fun, particularly the part where four Brutes, shoulder to shoulder, were coming at me at once, Lots o' combat rolls. Must have been at least 12 Brutes in all, probably a few more. Certainly many more than usual. Between them and the Reaper foot they got me down to health gate once, and took down both my squad mates on two occasions. I drained the Harrier dry and had to switch to over to the Eagle. This would have been a good time to simply dodge and activate the hammers, but I just like that fight too much to miss out.

 

Wrex did tell Shepard to stay alive because he wouldn't know what to say at a funeral.

[Farangbaa]

Genophage cured. Krogan free. New beginning. For all of us.

 

The Brute fight was wild. I must have done something to trigger a respawning glitch because I ended up fighting wave after wave of Brutes. It was a lotta fun, particularly the part where four Brutes, shoulder to shoulder, were coming at me at once, Lots o' combat rolls. Must have been at least 12 Brutes in all, probably a few more. Certainly many more than usual. Between them and the Reaper foot they got me down to health gate once, and took down both my squad mates on two occasions. I drained the Harrier dry and had to switch to over to the Eagle. This would have been a good time to simply dodge and activate the hammers, but I just like that fight too much to miss out.

 

Wrex did tell Shepard to stay alive because he wouldn't know what to say at a funeral.

 

You actually kill those brutes?

 

I just run past them.

[metalfenix]

You actually kill those brutes?

 

I just run past them.

 

Me too. On insanity, those brutes are not worth the effort.

[SwobyJ]

The problem I have with pure renegade is that such a person would never, ever climb to the position Shepard's in and will rise to.

I have that issue too.

However, experiencing Pure Renegade can be interesting.

It does show that he's a 'Chaotic Violence' individual, who in a different setting with a different threat, would be totally out of his league.

But against an overwhelming enemy force, he does give an air of someone that everyone would be forced to submit to, as their better. Instead of Paragon Shepard inspiring others to think they stand a chance, Renegade Shepard puts the most emphasis on him as a valuable asset. And well, at least in the story we're shown, he is. He's the Reaper killer.

When you go Pure Renegade, many don't even think kindly of you, and it shows in ambient dialogue. What they *do* seem to think of you more than Paragon though, is your ability. They submit to you more not due to your behavior and helpfulness, but because you just look like an outright powerful being. Reputation follows Shep since ME1, and Renegade Shepard can and does capitalize on that.

I can buy that. But only in the specific situation everyone is written in. They're lost, not really ready for the Reapers, and chaos can allow specific individuals or entities to rise to the top, if only for a while. In this case, it is Renegade Shepard and the Normandy. Just don't expect people to have your back afterward.

I agree that Renegon and Paragade (at least in ME1/ME3, for ME3 you just bring a lot of Reputation along) are the best of both worlds. I think that for most of the trilogy, it is even designed that way. As long as you have one of the sides maxed out, you're good for 'full' story progression, but having the other side strong can make things very enjoyable.

[SwobyJ]

You can kill all of them?

I'll do it next time if so.

[SporkFu]

The one time I tried, I managed to kill two or three before I got overwhelmed. Then I just thought, "**** this." heh, and ran past them. 

[von uber]

Bollocks, can't find a hi-res verison of the formal dress that works. Low-res it is then.

[Daemul]

If I'm in a hurry to go somewhere I just run by the brutes, but the rest of the time I just kill them, it's too fun not to. It's best done as a class that can set off Fire Explosions, easy kills. 

[Farangbaa]

I just died a couple of times on Antibaar, because I insist on killing everything on foot. That's easily the most difficult battle of the gamem especially after the two geth primes land.

 

I'll try again tomorrow or something. Or maybe later.

 

It's time for some DotA 2 me thinks

[Mrs_Stick]

Today my male shepard boarded the derelict reaper with Mordin and Jack. Mordin keep finding himself in the worst possible spots and continued to get knocked out by husk. Jack's shockwave saved me a few times and we continued on our quest to find the reaper iff. We took the geth that helped us a few times on board the Normandy after long conversations with Miranda and Jacob I woke the geth up and we had a chat. He will stand with me against the collectors. Next stop will be Zaeeds little side project.

[SporkFu]

I just died a couple of times on Antibaar, because I insist on killing everything on foot. That's easily the most difficult battle of the gamem especially after the two geth primes land.

 

I'll try again tomorrow or something. Or maybe later.

 

It's time for some DotA 2 me thinks

I remember Antibaar. Okay I lied, I looked it up on my planetary resource cheat sheet I have.  I usually take away the armature shields and most of their health with the mako cannon first, then step out and finish them on foot. Hey, it still counts. 

[SporkFu]

Today my male shepard boarded the derelict reaper with Mordin and Jack. Mordin keep finding himself in the worst possible spots and continued to get knocked out by husk. Jack's shockwave saved me a few times and we continued on our quest to find the reaper iff. We took the geth that helped us a few times on board the Normandy after long conversations with Miranda and Jacob I woke the geth up and we had a chat. He will stand with me against the collectors. Next stop will be Zaeeds little side project.

Never tried that one with Mordin and Jack. Actually now that I think about it, Mordin lever left the Normandy in my games, except for his loyalty mission. Jack never seems to aim the shockwave where I want her to. I think she does it on purpose. I prefer Samara and maybe Thane with throw fields to take out bunches of husks. 

[Mrs_Stick]

Never tried that one with Mordin and Jack. Actually now that I think about it, Mordin lever left the Normandy in my games, except for his loyalty mission. Jack never seems to aim the shockwave where I want her to. I think she does it on purpose. I prefer Samara and maybe Thane with throw fields to take out bunches of husks.

Jack goes everywhere with this shep because he is romancing her. I like it she is crazy psyco and he is a level headed paragon makes me feel like he is her better half.

[SporkFu]

Jack goes everywhere with this shep because he is romancing her. I like it she is crazy psyco and he is a level headed paragon makes me feel like he is her better half.

Yeah I like Jack's romance played that way. I think it makes her character in ME3 more plausible. Hmm, now I'm tempted to do a Jack romance playthrough... nope, next game. Staying with my renegade femshep this time.  

[Mrs_Stick]

Yeah I like Jack's romance played that way. I think it makes her character in ME3 more plausible. Hmm, now I'm tempted to do a Jack romance playthrough... nope, next game. Staying with my renegade femshep this time.

Wanted something different so I created my first male shep. And I already liked jack so though why the heck not.

[SporkFu]

I have that issue too.

However, experiencing Pure Renegade can be interesting.

It does show that he's a 'Chaotic Violence' individual, who in a different setting with a different threat, would be totally out of his league.

But against an overwhelming enemy force, he does give an air of someone that everyone would be forced to submit to, as their better. Instead of Paragon Shepard inspiring others to think they stand a chance, Renegade Shepard puts the most emphasis on him as a valuable asset. And well, at least in the story we're shown, he is. He's the Reaper killer.

When you go Pure Renegade, many don't even think kindly of you, and it shows in ambient dialogue. What they *do* seem to think of you more than Paragon though, is your ability. They submit to you more not due to your behavior and helpfulness, but because you just look like an outright powerful being. Reputation follows Shep since ME1, and Renegade Shepard can and does capitalize on that.

I can buy that. But only in the specific situation everyone is written in. They're lost, not really ready for the Reapers, and chaos can allow specific individuals or entities to rise to the top, if only for a while. In this case, it is Renegade Shepard and the Normandy. Just don't expect people to have your back afterward.

I agree that Renegon and Paragade (at least in ME1/ME3, for ME3 you just bring a lot of Reputation along) are the best of both worlds. I think that for most of the trilogy, it is even designed that way. As long as you have one of the sides maxed out, you're good for 'full' story progression, but having the other side strong can make things very enjoyable.

Trying to play a pure renegade shep this time through, and I just a couple side missions on my way to Noveria. During the biotic hostage situation she didn't even try to negotiate, just said, "I think I'll kill you now," and I thought to myself, "no that's just not right." I mean, I understand zero tolerance and all that, but at least try to stall them or put them off their guard. This playthrough is taking me out of my comfort zone a lot. It's just not how I picture shep, but I will say she's never boring.

 

The next mission where I had to disarm the old nuke was much more satisfying, pretending I didn't even know who the guy was. Now I'm off to deal with my old CO major Kyle. That should be fun.  

[Mrs_Stick]

Trying to play a pure renegade shep this time through, and I just a couple side missions on my way to Noveria. During the biotic hostage situation she didn't even try to negotiate, just said, "I think I'll kill you now," and I thought to myself, "no that's just not right." I mean, I understand zero tolerance and all that, but at least try to stall them or put them off their guard. This playthrough is taking me out of my comfort zone a lot. It's just not how I picture shep, but I will say she's never boring.
 
The next mission where I had to disarm the old nuke was much more satisfying, pretending I didn't even know who the guy was. Now I'm off to deal with my old CO major Kyle. That should be fun.

I did a playthrough like that. There are some fun parts and other parts just made my feelers hurt.

[SporkFu]

I did a playthrough like that. There are some fun parts and other parts just made my feelers hurt.

Exactly. I'm already not looking forward to Virmire, but some things just have to be done.