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[ForThessia]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Bruh. I'mma need you to reread this thread and critically examine how dislike for the character is expressed and justified.

Oh.... I see TheProtheans has posted...... nevermind.

Modifié par ForThessia, 01 avril 2013 - 12:21 .

[MegaSovereign]

Random Jerkface wrote...

This is the most poorly-disguised homophobic thread I've ever had the displeasure of reading here.

Didn't know Kevin was a gay rights activist.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

(Awesome animated fanart)

That image is the best thing in the history of everything. I love how Steve is just totally relaxed while Vega makes him gravity's plaything.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 01 avril 2013 - 12:28 .

[HiddenInWar]

Random Jerkface wrote...

This is the most poorly-disguised homophobic thread I've ever had the displeasure of reading here.

[DiebytheSword]

I liked Cortez and his story, worth my time every play through.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I'm surprised this topic hasn't been closed yet.

[Lars Honeytoast]

His banter with Joker in the Citadel DLC was fun. He was much more fleshed out through Leviathan and the Citadel. Before that, I didn't really care for him.

[thepringle]

Really? I liked him a lot.

[RenatoDep]

o Ventus wrote...

The "depressed gay guy" card? How often do you actually see that to constitute it as a "card"? If a character who's problem you're describing (which are purely optional and avoidable) are bringing the quality of the ENTIRE STORY down, then I think that's a "you" problem.

The majority of the OP makes me wish I was illiterate.

Well said

[Versus Omnibus]

Demonique wrote...

Sorriest excuse for a character? Really?


*Cough*

[Ryzaki]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

I love everything about this.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

Ryzaki wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

I love everything about this.

I don't want to start a war or anything and I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion...but I have to say this is why I wish that post was never made.

Guys are suppose to go up to girls and ask them out....thats how it works for the majority.  And a lot of us are nice guys and it's like our fear of being embarrassed when asking a girl out is trumped by the minority and awful chance that a woman might get asked out by a bad guy.

Just sucks to know when I hold a door open for a woman that in the very next encounter with a different woman I might be seen as a rapist.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 01 avril 2013 - 03:27 .

[tevix]

@Dude in the room

Seconded. I like the point that hating a gays because one made an unwanted pass at you is silly because it's what guys do with women all the time.

It's just how it works. Awkward? Probably. Normal? Definately.

And if a gay guy presses the issue even when you say no, it's still not fair to generalize. Straight guys do it too. Women do it, to men and each other. It's just bad people.

Aside from that, it's just how you meet people.

That article seems more geared at telling men they are pigs for making passes at women than defending homosexuals, though.

[KingZayd]

hah. Not even close. Starchild.

[IllusiveManJr]

Lars Honeytoast wrote...

His banter with Joker in the Citadel DLC was fun. He was much more fleshed out through Leviathan and the Citadel. Before that, I didn't really care for him.

Sorry for the late reply. Was sleeping then had to plow snow off my driveway. 

Maybe the Citadel DLC will improve his character. I've heard that it's very character focused, I just didn't get a chance to download it last month as there was eight new releases to play through. 

[BLAHBLUE2001]

Op must be trollin' ...

Steve Cortez is a sorry character? I just can't even understand that idea when you have so many characters that are really sorry to choose from *glares at Allers, starbrat, and space ninja*

I thought Steve was a great guy and after a post like this I really need to make it a point to romance the character and appreciate the things Bioware did well.

[Skvindt]

If anyone brought the story down, it would be the Catalyst, Diana Allers, Kai Leng, and Jacob.

Cortez is not even as remotely poor as them.

Modifié par SRX, 01 avril 2013 - 04:57 .

[NeroonWilliams]

BLAHBLUE2001 wrote...

Op must be trollin' ...

Steve Cortez is a sorry character? I just can't even understand that idea when you have so many characters that are really sorry to choose from *glares at Allers, starbrat, and space ninja*

I thought Steve was a great guy and after a post like this I really need to make it a point to romance the character and appreciate the things Bioware did well.

The romance was actually the most off-putting part of the character for me.

I liked Steve.  I thought he was a pretty good character.  I felt sooooo creepy going through the romance though.  He's just letting go of his deceased husband.  Through the first half of the game he still hasn't.  Tell me that isn't a bad place to start a romantic relationship with ANYONE, and I will ask for more of what you are smoking.

I also find it hard to believe that this man, who was a blubbering fountain of tears over his husband's death 6 months after the fact, could just flip a switch and be totally into Shepard without that baggage in the short space of the game.  Even if the game represents a few months of realtime.

Modifié par NeroonWilliams, 01 avril 2013 - 05:12 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
Just sucks to know when I hold a door open for a woman that in the very next encounter with a different woman I might be seen as a rapist.

That article seems more geared at telling men they are pigs for making passes at women than defending homosexuals, though.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 01 avril 2013 - 05:28 .

[4stringwizard]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

I love everything about this.

I don't want to start a war or anything and I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion...but I have to say this is why I wish that post was never made.

Guys are suppose to go up to girls and ask them out....thats how it works for the majority.  And a lot of us are nice guys and it's like our fear of being embarrassed when asking a girl out is trumped by the minority and awful chance that a woman might get asked out by a bad guy.

Just sucks to know when I hold a door open for a woman that in the very next encounter with a different woman I might be seen as a rapist.

Agreed.  There is so much bad reasoning in that post I don't know where to begin, even excluding the super-obvious implication that this was an older man hitting on an UNDERAGE boy, which instantly sets it apart from a guy making casual advances toward a woman. 

Regarding the OP's post, Steve Cortez never impressed me as a character.  Although he grew on me a little as the game went on, there's no denying that the only reason he exists in the game is to give manshep another gay romance option.  His whole character centered on the fact that he had a husband.  It couldn't have been more forced.  On the other hand, I thought Samantha Traynor was a much-better developed character. 

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 01 avril 2013 - 05:36 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Agreed.  There is so much bad reasoning in that post I don't know where to begin, even excluding the super-obvious implication that this was an older man hitting on an UNDERAGE boy, which instantly sets it apart from a guy making casual advances toward a woman. 

Yo, what world do you live in? Any woman can tell you the exact moment grown-ass men started giving her unwanted attention (and making unwanted advances), and it is usually between the ages of eleven and fourteen. And where is the implication of an age disparity in that post?

But once again, you've missed the point.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 01 avril 2013 - 06:08 .

[Adoramei]

(ignore this double post )

Modifié par Adoramei, 01 avril 2013 - 06:04 .

[Adoramei]

4stringwizard wrote...

Regarding the OP's post, Steve Cortez never impressed me as a character.  Although he grew on me a little as the game went on, there's no denying that the only reason he exists in the game is to give manshep another gay romance option.  His whole character centered on the fact that he had a husband.  It couldn't have been more forced.  On the other hand, I thought Samantha Traynor was a much-better developed character. 

The fact that he lost someone close to him was the central point of the character? Well, that's like taking an aspect of the character from their introductory scene and saying that that was the central aspect of the character. One could say that Traynor's central aspect was her sexual aggressiveness because it's mentioned when you first meet her that she was hitting on her.

I took into consideration that this was a short game and that there was barely any time to really develop the character. The fact that he had a husband wasn't so shocking to me that I hung on to the word. In fact, I was more concerned with the grief he carried and his turn-around during the course of the story. Personally, I played a FemShep and found him to be just as entertaining as when my fiance played it on his MaleShep.

He mentioned his husband once in passing with no pause at all. Not like when Ashley says in 1, "bla bla bla god. Wait.. it's okay that I believe in god, right?" Which wouldn't have been as big of a deal had she not made a big deal
out of it. In our society, unfortunately, the fact that the person he lost was of the same gender is going to stick out moreso than in this progressed, futuristic society. It would have been the same story had his husband been a wife.

Modifié par Adoramei, 01 avril 2013 - 06:03 .

[Dusk Wolf]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

You high mayn.