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[Wayning_Star]

the OP is stirring something.. I'm not really sure what exactly... it worries me.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Steve was great.

Now this guy here:

is one of the sorriest excuses most ****** poor excuses worst absolute pieces of #### waste of pixels, computer memory, disk space, voice acting talent, graphics design, programming, and sound engineering I've ever seen for a character

There I think I've got it covered. Did I leave anything out?

[XI BlackHawx IX]

Jacob is part of the ME series sooooo yeah

Modifié par XI BlackHawx IX, 31 mars 2013 - 04:19 .

[Mr.House]

I like Steve.

[LinksOcarina]

OP is bad and should feel bad for making bad posts.

In all seriousness, I disagree.

[ThatDancingTurian]

tevix wrote...

@Aris

Hey, cortez is totally on joker's level. He outpiloted joker's own ship!

....Driven by a crappy pilot...but still! That deserves some credit!

I also loved the back and forth between vega and cortez. I liked to see that people interact without the almighty shepard around to approve conversation.

Finally, I don't hate jacob because he cheated on SHEPARD...I hate him because he cheated...period.

I'm not saying he's bad, but the guy just isn't Joker.

And agreed, Vega and Cortez's conversations helped make both of them feel more real. They're the embodiment of the Those Two Guys trope, they're like a buddy cop spinoff waiting to happen.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 31 mars 2013 - 04:22 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The only problem I had is he seemed a little...serious, if that's the word. He never really joked around that much. I suppose that's what professionalism is about though.

I actually liked that about him. We've got plenty of jokesters, some people straddling the line between jokesters and more serious types, but not a lot of real stoics. And the ones we do have (Javik, Samara, Thane) were all so... severe.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 31 mars 2013 - 04:32 .

[Wayning_Star]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Steve was great.

Now this guy here:

is one of the sorriest excuses most ****** poor excuses worst absolute pieces of #### waste of pixels, computer memory, disk space, voice acting talent, graphics design, programming, and sound engineering I've ever seen for a character

There I think I've got it covered. Did I leave anything out?

The DLC maybe?

[MetioricTest]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The only problem I had is he seemed a little...serious, if that's the word. He never really joked around that much. I suppose that's what professionalism is about though.

I actually liked that about him. We've got plenty of jokesters, some people straddling the line between jokesters and more serious types, but not a lot of real stoics. And the ones we do have (Javik, Samara, Thane), were all so... severe.

I liked the fact that he was the only one who backed your dancing in the Citadel DLC?

[Leonia]

This isn't a veiled parody thread to the one that won't be mentioned in the DA2 section by chance? Let's be happy we have gay characters at all. Can Bioware represent them better? Absolutely. But give them credit for trying.

I quite liked having a serious character on the Normandy, doesn't matter what orientation they are. Also you get to see Cortez relax more during Citadel. So, whatever. Sometimes you will only see what you want to see.

[Hazegurl]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Steve Cortez is entirely unlikable with no redeeming qualities to what small amount of character he has. He was poorly voice acted, had a terrible backstory, and served no purpose beyond another MM interest for Shepard. There isn't an iota of him that is even remotely interesting.

Every time I spoke with him, he was constantly playing the depressed gay guy card which I found to be an uniteresting and not very unique way to introduce a homosexual character. For me, he really brought the story down and I avoided speaking to him after my second Shepard.

Anyone else avoid him for similar reasons?


Note: I do see Steve Cortez as a missed oppurtunity. Bioware had the chance to introduce a relatable character who happened to be gay but it was squandered.

Soooo. A man who is depressed over losing his spouse is playing the "depressed gay card"?? The things you read on this forum.

[NoReapers]

To be honest, I don't really care for him. His backstory felt kind of forced... too much in a short period of time... I don't know if I would feel different if I were into men, but on the other hand, Diane Allers was not interesting either...

[ThatDancingTurian]

MetioricTest wrote...

I liked the fact that he was the only one who backed your dancing in the Citadel DLC?

That was one of those moments where I thought, "Cortez is such a good guy."

He backed up my Shepard when even her boyfriend was making fun of her.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 31 mars 2013 - 04:44 .

[Battlebloodmage]

I don't really have a strong opinion on Steve. He's not very interesting to me. A bit ironic since I romanced Kaidan, and that's what a lot of people accused him of.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

Better than the crappy comedy brought to you by the C list movie star...the one...the only....Seth Green.

That dude is such a pompous ass.

[Papa John0]

Didn't mind Steve at all. Not a particularly interesting character, but he served a nice role. I was recently thinking about ME2 and came to ask myself: who was flying the shuttle for all those drop-offs and evacs?

Steve was a good addition to the crew and it was nice to have another voice in missions and on the ship.

The only problem I had was the forced and cringe-worthy reaction to his crash by my male Shepard. It appears only one line was recorded whether you were friends or lovers and it is very abrupt. STEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVEEEEE.

It wouldn't bee so bad on its own if Shep didn't follow it up with a monotone "Are you sure?"

[Chala]

I disagree...
He is a fine guy, he worries about the squad and his banter with Vega is pretty good.

Also, there is something I really like about how he was treated:
He is not a gay character, he is just a normal guy who happens to be gay.

[IllusiveManJr]

leonia42 wrote...

This isn't a veiled parody thread to the one that won't be mentioned in the DA2 section by chance?

I don't go anywere near the DA2 forums anymore. Months ago there was some seriously inappropriate threads going on and it made a bad impression. 

[Shaleist]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Steve Cortez is entirely unlikable with no redeeming qualities to what small amount of character he has. He was poorly voice acted, had a terrible backstory, and served no purpose beyond another MM interest for Shepard. There isn't an iota of him that is even remotely interesting.

Every time I spoke with him, he was constantly playing the depressed gay guy card which I found to be an uniteresting and not very unique way to introduce a homosexual character. For me, he really brought the story down and I avoided speaking to him after my second Shepard.

Anyone else avoid him for similar reasons?


Note: I do see Steve Cortez as a missed oppurtunity. Bioware had the chance to introduce a relatable character who happened to be gay but it was squandered.

I KNOW that I find the "ME3 Triangle" of Vega, Cortez and Traynor too boring to listen to them at all after the first playthrough *Citadel notwithstanding*.  I don't think the VA was bad though, just a bland biography.

[Shaleist]

Papa John0 wrote...

 I was recently thinking about ME2 and came to ask myself: who was flying the shuttle for all those drop-offs and evacs?

Shuttle had a VI.  It talks to you a couple times, I know once on the mission with the virus infected mechs.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

Better than the crappy comedy brought to you by the C list movie star...the one...the only....Seth Green.

That dude is such a pompous ass.

Wh...why?

I remember seeing a story on TV...some filmography about something....I forget it was a while back.  Anyway, it said how Seth Green complained and whined and threatened to quit the movie or something along those lines "Enemy of the State" b/c he wanted his character to have more backstory and more lines and all that.

His character was short of a friggin extra or something.  He had not proven himself yet...still hasn't, but in any case....you don't do that without proving yourself to be worhty of that sort of thing.

And the way he acts....every role I've ever seen him in...he's so cynical.  I've seen him in interviews and whatnot and he's just an ass.  He just comes accross as the kind of guy who wants to control things but doesn't take into consideration that there is a pecking order.

His brand of comedy is all over Joker....and it just doesn't fit the tone of any of the games.  I wouldn't put it past him if he was like "Lemme do my jokes!!! Trust me!!!"

He is the boil on ME serie's butt.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 31 mars 2013 - 04:52 .

[tevix]

I think cortez was meant to be received as the everyman.

His background his average. He has nothing special to report. He didnt fly against sovereign. He's just a skilled alliance pilot who happens to be gay.

I always took him as what it would be like if you could get to know every crewmember serving aboard the normandy. Nothing special, no notable accomplishments. Just regular people, good at their jobs, with everyday stuff in their history.

I love the everyday stories you find in the game. Adds meat to the experience.

[tevix]

@Dude in the room

So is it seth you don't like, joker, or both?

I like the concept of jokers character. Was well directed in ME1, pretty decent in ME2 with some leak from green himself, and a valiant attempt at expanding the character in 3 with a lot of green takeover.

I agree, I don't care for green myself, but I do like the character concept of joker.