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Just what makes so many people hate the Asari so much?

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Argolas wrote...

Just what makes so many people hate the Asari so much?

Femininity, mostly. Also cultural success.

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Argolas wrote...

Just what makes so many people hate the Asari so much?


Allow me to explain:

-They think they're the most goddamn good looking species in the galaxy and that they can seduce anyone they want, when really nobody finds calamari heads attractive. :sick:

-They hold themselves above every other race because of their "technological advances" when the only reason they've made so many breakthroughs was because of the protheans giving it to them.

-They knew the reapers existed and were comming the whole time and didn't do sh*t.

-They're pu**ys when it comes to war, all they're really good for is being "exotic dancers".

-They make f@*king clones of themselves to reproduce and have no genetic diveristy what-so-ever. 

Overall they're basically just c*&ts.

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conjmk wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Just what makes so many people hate the Asari so much?


Allow me to explain:

-They think they're the most goddamn good looking species in the galaxy and that they can seduce anyone they want, when really nobody finds calamari heads attractive. :sick:

-They hold themselves above every other race because of their "technological advances" when the only reason they've made so many breakthroughs was because of the protheans giving it to them.

-They knew the reapers existed and were comming the whole time and didn't do sh*t.

-They're pu**ys when it comes to war, all they're really good for is being "exotic dancers".

-They make f@*king clones of themselves to reproduce and have no genetic diveristy what-so-ever. 

Overall they're basically just c*&ts.


That's sheer nonsense. The prothean beacon is not the only reason they've made so many breakthroughs. They didn't know the reapers existed. They actually put up a lot more of a fight than the Alliance does. Asari reproduction is not cloning. And there are enough people who find the asari atteactive.

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That's sheer nonsense. The prothean beacon is not the only reason they've made so many breakthroughs. They didn't know the reapers existed. They actually put up a lot more of a fight than the Alliance does. Asari reproduction is not cloning. And there are enough people who find the asari atteactive.


lol

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XI BlackHawx IX wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

That's sheer nonsense. The prothean beacon is not the only reason they've made so many breakthroughs. They didn't know the reapers existed. They actually put up a lot more of a fight than the Alliance does. Asari reproduction is not cloning. And there are enough people who find the asari atteactive.


lol


The Fall of Thessia
The assault on Thessia did not go as smoothly as the Reapers' strikes against other races. While other species met the Reapers head-on, the asari resorted to dangerous hit-and-run tactics to harass their attackers. By engaging in guerilla strategies--blast a Reaper ship, then jumping to FTL where they could not be tracked--the asari forced the Reapers to remain on the defensive.

The Fall of Earth
The Reapers took Earth in a matter of hours. The Alliance knew the first wave would arrive from batarian space, but they were unprepared for the speed and scale of the attack.


You could also check the planet descriptions of several asari colonies (Lusia, Illium, Trategos,...I posted them in this thread /p. 10)

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I'd burn the asari with fire.

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ThatBigStupidJellyfish wrote...

I'd burn the asari with fire.

I'll bring the marshmallowsImage IPB

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I don't understand it when people are given a choice between saving something and not saving something.

If they were threatened with an extinction level event for their species, and you could save them, the only logical option would be to save them. We're talking about an entire race here, and one of the oldest and most advanced races in the galaxy. And in the fight against the reapers, you need every force you can get. Save the Asari, earn their support. It's the only logical thing, even if you don't like them. Yeah, they made some seriously stupid mistakes and can be more stubborn than an IT believer, but their support would be worth it.

The same goes for squadmates. There are a few squadmates I don't particularly like, but I would never engineer my playthrough to have them killed, because all I'm doing is missing out on content, and losing support.


However, if it was a one-or-the-other choice, without the ability to save both, then things get more complicated. I'd save them over the Vorcha, Hanar, Drell, Volus, Elcor, Rachi definitely. Probably Krogan, too. Salaraisn... unlikely. Turians, no. Humans, maybe. Quarian or Geth, no.

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Barquiel wrote...

XI BlackHawx IX wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

That's sheer nonsense. The prothean beacon is not the only reason they've made so many breakthroughs. They didn't know the reapers existed. They actually put up a lot more of a fight than the Alliance does. Asari reproduction is not cloning. And there are enough people who find the asari atteactive.


lol


The Fall of Thessia
The assault on Thessia did not go as smoothly as the Reapers' strikes against other races. While other species met the Reapers head-on, the asari resorted to dangerous hit-and-run tactics to harass their attackers. By engaging in guerilla strategies--blast a Reaper ship, then jumping to FTL where they could not be tracked--the asari forced the Reapers to remain on the defensive.

The Fall of Earth
The Reapers took Earth in a matter of hours. The Alliance knew the first wave would arrive from batarian space, but they were unprepared for the speed and scale of the attack.


You could also check the planet descriptions of several asari colonies (Lusia, Illium, Trategos,...I posted them in this thread /p. 10)


EVERY race knew the attack was coming sooner or later and the first place hit always falls the fastest while the Asari had weeks after seeing earth to get prepared and did nothing.

Alliance was building the Crucible and Commander Shepard an Alliance Soldier was recruiting the other races of the galaxy to join together AFTER taking the first hit of the invasion.

The Asari didnt join the effort sooner even though the other council races had  weeks in advance. Not until Thessia fell and they knew what everyone else knew for a while, you can't do it alone. The Krogan and Turians put aside there differances because of that, sure the Genophage had to be "cured" but it was due time. The Geth and Quarians potentially put aside theres but the Asari being the greatest race ever didnt join until they couldn't accept the truth aynmore. The Asari have one of the biggest populations if not the biggest and the most assests they can offer is equal to Ex-Cerburus assests while the Alliance blows every other force out of the water besides Full-Krogan support.

Everyone knew the War would be won on Earth not Pavelen, not Tuchanka, not Rannoch, not even Thessia which is why the Krogans help the Turians, the largest fleet in the galaxy (Quarians) and possibly the geth threw everything they had in, but all the Asari can offer to win the War is assests equal to Cerberus defectors

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themikefest wrote...

ThatBigStupidJellyfish wrote...

I'd burn the asari with fire.

I'll bring the marshmallowsImage IPB


Maybe we can camp using the mass asari graves as a fire for heat?

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Barquiel wrote...

XI BlackHawx IX wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

That's sheer nonsense. The prothean beacon is not the only reason they've made so many breakthroughs. They didn't know the reapers existed. They actually put up a lot more of a fight than the Alliance does. Asari reproduction is not cloning. And there are enough people who find the asari atteactive.


lol


The Fall of Thessia
The assault on Thessia did not go as smoothly as the Reapers' strikes against other races. While other species met the Reapers head-on, the asari resorted to dangerous hit-and-run tactics to harass their attackers. By engaging in guerilla strategies--blast a Reaper ship, then jumping to FTL where they could not be tracked--the asari forced the Reapers to remain on the defensive.

The Fall of Earth
The Reapers took Earth in a matter of hours. The Alliance knew the first wave would arrive from batarian space, but they were unprepared for the speed and scale of the attack.


You could also check the planet descriptions of several asari colonies (Lusia, Illium, Trategos,...I posted them in this thread /p. 10)

All of the alliance retreated in order to help end the war on the long term scale, sacrificing Earth and some of its own fleets in the process, while the Asari wouldn't lift a finger until the Reapers attacked their home planet. 

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jacob taylor416 wrote...

All of the alliance retreated in order to help end the war on the long term scale, sacrificing Earth and some of its own fleets in the process, while the Asari wouldn't lift a finger until the Reapers attacked their home planet. 

Dont insult his race of waifus

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All of the alliance retreated in order to help end the war on the long term scale, sacrificing Earth and some of its own fleets in the process, while the Asari wouldn't lift a finger until the Reapers attacked their home planet.

Almost all of the asari support comes long before Priority: Thessia. The meat of it comes immediately after Tuchanka.

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Xilizhra wrote...

All of the alliance retreated in order to help end the war on the long term scale, sacrificing Earth and some of its own fleets in the process, while the Asari wouldn't lift a finger until the Reapers attacked their home planet.

Almost all of the asari support comes long before Priority: Thessia. The meat of it comes immediately after Tuchanka.

. After the coup actually.

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Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

All of the alliance retreated in order to help end the war on the long term scale, sacrificing Earth and some of its own fleets in the process, while the Asari wouldn't lift a finger until the Reapers attacked their home planet.

Almost all of the asari support comes long before Priority: Thessia. The meat of it comes immediately after Tuchanka.

. After the coup actually.


Which is immediately after Tuchanka.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

All of the alliance retreated in order to help end the war on the long term scale, sacrificing Earth and some of its own fleets in the process, while the Asari wouldn't lift a finger until the Reapers attacked their home planet.

Almost all of the asari support comes long before Priority: Thessia. The meat of it comes immediately after Tuchanka.

. After the coup actually.


Which is immediately after Tuchanka.

. Not necessarily.  I can do From Ashes, that Niveria mission, Rachni, Tuchanka bomb

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This is still going on? I thought we settled this. Burn them all. 

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XI BlackHawx IX wrote...

EVERY race knew the attack was coming sooner or later and the first place hit always falls the fastest while the Asari had weeks after seeing earth to get prepared and did nothing.


That's irrelevant (btw, the alliance didn't prepare either...the Reapers hit the Batarians first). Earth fell in a matter of hours, Thessia obviously not -> the asari put up a lot more of a fight than the Alliance does, that was my point. Nothing lolworthy here.

XI BlackHawx IX wrote...
Alliance was building the Crucible and Commander Shepard an Alliance Soldier was recruiting the other races of the galaxy to join together AFTER taking the first hit of the invasion.


Your point? The alliance didn't build the crucible alone. They didn' even defend it alone during the construction period.

Turian Seventh Fleet
Military Strength: 90
The turian seventh fleet was assigned the privilege and burden of guarding the Crucible during the weapon's construction and deployment. The fleet flies constant surveillance around the massive device, coordinating with Alliance security patrols and VI-run counter-intelligence programs. The Seventh Fleet knows what it would cost the galaxy if the Reapers breached their defenses: every vessel's captain is prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice if it ensures the Crucible's safety.


XI BlackHawx IX wrote...
The Asari didnt join the effort sooner even though the other council races had  weeks in advance. Not until Thessia fell and they knew what everyone else knew for a while, you can't do it alone. The Krogan and Turians put aside there differances because of that, sure the Genophage had to be "cured" but it was due time. The Geth and Quarians potentially put aside theres but the Asari being the greatest race ever didnt join until they couldn't accept the truth aynmore. The Asari have one of the biggest populations if not the biggest and the most assests they can offer is equal to Ex-Cerburus assests while the Alliance blows every other force out of the water besides Full-Krogan support. Everyone knew the War would be won on Earth not Pavelen, not Tuchanka, not Rannoch, not even Thessia which is why the Krogans help the Turians, the largest fleet in the galaxy (Quarians) and possibly the geth threw everything they had in, but all the Asari can offer to win the War is assests equal to Cerberus defectors


The asari contribute more war assets than the Turians, the Salarians and the Geth/Quarians (depending on your choice in ME2), they also join before the reapers attack Thessia (after Tuchanka). And Earth wasn't special, despite Udina's and Shepard's best efforts to treat is as such. Earth only becomes important after the Citadel gets moved there, but that doesn't happen until late in the game.

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Ser Bones wrote...

 
This is still going on? I thought we settled this. Burn them all. 


Exactly, heck, if it was the batarians or the asari, looks like it's the batarians' lucky day.

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The Asari give less war assets if you sacrificed the council.

And the Thessia fell in hours, communication is completely cut as said by the Asari councilor. Five minutes later I can talk to Anderson on Earth. Tell me which world is doing better?

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Steelcan wrote...

The Asari give less war assets if you sacrificed the council.

And the Thessia fell in hours, communication is completely cut as said by the Asari councilor. Five minutes later I can talk to Anderson on Earth. Tell me which world is doing better?

Well, you only have a personal QEC line to Earth, those things are still extremely rare and expensive, and it was already built into the Normandy by Cerberus long before. Communications are an extremely poor way to judge the situation.

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And the Alliance couldn't prepare really, no one knew the batarians were under attack. The Asari had all the warning in the world.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

The Asari give less war assets if you sacrificed the council.

And the Thessia fell in hours, communication is completely cut as said by the Asari councilor. Five minutes later I can talk to Anderson on Earth. Tell me which world is doing better?

Well, you only have a personal QEC line to Earth, those things are still extremely rare and expensive, and it was already built into the Normandy by Cerberus long before. Communications are an extremely poor way to judge the situation.

. It also works to the Citadel, the Crucible, the Dalatrass....

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Xilizhra wrote...

All of the alliance retreated in order to help end the war on the long term scale, sacrificing Earth and some of its own fleets in the process, while the Asari wouldn't lift a finger until the Reapers attacked their home planet.

Almost all of the asari support comes long before Priority: Thessia. The meat of it comes immediately after Tuchanka.

I'm not going off EMS, (even though that's a joke too) I'm going off of the story, the Asari would not attend any summit or listen to Sheppard until he saved the councilor's life? That's even worse. And even the description of the Battle for Thessia seem like they wasted a lot of their resources trying to defend something that was already lost. 

Modifié par jacob taylor416, 05 avril 2013 - 06:25 .