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[NovaBlastMarketing]

nope I liked the character and thought Jessica did a good job. I was surprised Emily Wong was not there but just becase she wasn't  it didn't change my opinion of Diana. Some people dont like Diana simply becase shes not  Emily Wong.

I think they could have done more with her but as wiith ME3 in general you can sum of one of its main faults in 2 words.

 Missed Potential . Alot of it.

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 01 avril 2013 - 02:24 .

[Nykara]

She gave me war assets so no other then that I didnt much care for her

[PirateMouse]

Han Shot First wrote...

I think where Dianna Allers also tends to irritate the fanbase is that Bioware spent resources modelling the face of a completly new and rather pointless character

Hilariously badly, I might add.  For what ... just good measure? Oh Bioware. 

[PirateMouse]

Archonsg wrote...

Hey, its not jusy Allers. That particular character had Tali, Miranda, and Jack as well. Last being Jack, before Shadow Broker came out.
Allers was just  ... there.

My other Shepards though,...
What, don't tell me you can't role play completely very different Shepards with very different needs, motivation and ideals?

No Shepard I'm capable of playing could ever have standards that low. 

[Archonsg]

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

[crimzontearz]

Archonsg wrote...

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

 
Renegade Shepard is an awful person

[PirateMouse]

Archonsg wrote...

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

Geesh, poor kid.  She's not very emotionally stable, is she? I guess it fits though ... all that touchy-feely behavior, the needing to be close to everyone and get positive feedback from everyone ... she probably has an incredibly fragile self-esteem.

[PirateMouse]

crimzontearz wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

 
Renegade Shepard is an awful person

Yes, he/she is.

And Paragon Shepard is a naïve idiot who arguably didn't even survive Arrival because there's no true Paragon solution to Arrival (for once, Space Jesus can't save everyone!), so 100 percent Paragon Shepard would have had to run the clock out desperately hoping for a last minute Paragon Interrupt or special Blue Space Jesus dialogue option ... that never came.  Paragon Shepard also gets Kelly killed anyway by not advising her to take precautions to conceal her identity from Cerberus.

The only Shepards who make any sense are mixed-alignment ... "Paragades" and "Renegons."

Modifié par PirateMouse, 01 avril 2013 - 02:35 .

[crimzontearz]

PirateMouse wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

Geesh, poor kid.  She's not very emotionally stable, is she? I guess it fits though ... all that touchy-feely behavior, the needing to be close to everyone and get positive feedback from everyone ... she probably has an incredibly fragile self-esteem.

Does the fact that I actually LIKE that about her purely because I imagine she would spend the entirety of her time with me trying to please me make me a bad person

[David7204]

That's stupid. You might as well say that the 'real' Paragon Shepard offers his enemies tea instead of bullets.

[PirateMouse]

crimzontearz wrote...

PirateMouse wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

Geesh, poor kid.  She's not very emotionally stable, is she? I guess it fits though ... all that touchy-feely behavior, the needing to be close to everyone and get positive feedback from everyone ... she probably has an incredibly fragile self-esteem.

Does the fact that I actually LIKE that about her purely because I imagine she would spend the entirety of her time with me trying to please me make me a bad person

I think you know it does. 

[crimzontearz]

PirateMouse wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

 
Renegade Shepard is an awful person

Yes, he/she is.

And Paragon Shepard is a naïve idiot who arguably didn't even survive Arrival because there's no true Paragon solution to Arrival (for once, Space Jesus can't save everyone!), so 100 percent Paragon Shepard would have had to run the clock out desperately hoping for a last minute Paragon Interrupt or special Blue Space Jesus dialogue option ... that never came.  Paragon Shepard also gets Kelly killed anyway by not advising her to take precautions to conceal her identity from Cerberus.

The only Shepards who make any sense are mixed-alignment ... "Paragades" and "Renegons."

lucky me I play Paragade/metagame shepard

[PirateMouse]

David7204 wrote...

That's stupid. You might as well say that the 'real' Paragon Shepard offers his enemies tea instead of bullets.

Ah look.  It's David, here to miss the point again. 

[David7204]

Your 'point' is that a Paragon Shepard doesn't get his hands dirty? Aside from the numerous people he kills, people he hurts, people he threatens, people he intimidates, and people he manipulates? Does that sound 'naive' to you? Or did you just miss all of that?

Modifié par David7204, 01 avril 2013 - 02:40 .

[crimzontearz]

PirateMouse wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

PirateMouse wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

@hanshotfirst

If you took the renegade response when Kelly admits to sending profile reports of you and crew to TIM, and you tell her that she is neither trustworthy nor forgiven.

Kelly than runs off and blew her brains out.
You hear it from Ken and Gabby.

Geesh, poor kid.  She's not very emotionally stable, is she? I guess it fits though ... all that touchy-feely behavior, the needing to be close to everyone and get positive feedback from everyone ... she probably has an incredibly fragile self-esteem.

Does the fact that I actually LIKE that about her purely because I imagine she would spend the entirety of her time with me trying to please me make me a bad person

I think you know it does. 

what? She would make an AMAZING submissive

[Asch Lavigne]

She provides more than just the "Diana Allers" 5 point asset. After her interviews some of your assets will "update" and you'll gain a few more points.

Also, if you kick her off your ship or never take her, or talk to her in the first place, she does not die during the Coup. How do I know? I was running around somewhere on the Citadel and one of the news broadcasts that play said something about something reported by Diana Allers aboard some ship whose name I don't remember either. Sorry to disappoint but she just gets on another ship.

I never take her because a news reporter does not belong on my Normandy.

[David7204]

He's right. She probably would.

[spirosz]

Are people really defending her existence?

[PirateMouse]

David7204 wrote...

Your 'point' is that a Paragon Shepard doesn't get his hands dirty? Aside from the numerous people he kills, people he hurts, people he threatens, people he intimidates, and people he manipulates? Does that sound 'naive' to you?

No, my point is something I actually already wrote, so go back and read it.  I actually explained why Paragon Shepard* arguably doesn't even survive Arrival.

And yes, Renegade Shepard** is a horrible person.

* Here I'm defining "Paragon Shepard" as a Shepard who refuses to take any Renegade-style actions unless actually run on rails into one by the game ... someone who tries to be 100 percent pure blue at all times.

** Ditto for red, basically.

[Isaidlunch]

Yes. I have nothing against Jessica Chobot but her voice acting literally breaks my immersion.

Modifié par Kazanth, 01 avril 2013 - 02:50 .

[Archonsg]

One of the reasons why I love RPGs.
I don't just play my character's as an extension of myself but also explore different psyche, different personalities.

ME3 for the most part handles this well, which makes it good RPG, its ending however only gelled with one of my Characters, my sociopathic, pro-human, coward at heart, bully Shepard.

[David7204]

So why is Paragon Shepard a 'naive idiot' again? And remember, you did literally just define him as someone willing to activate the Project.

[His Name was HYR!!]

crimzontearz wrote...

But as others said, what she represents and who she replaced result in anger

I'm aware of that. I get what people do not like about it, I just can't bring myself to care about it. Like "catsuits" in ME2 and 3.

I liked Emily Wong, but I liked a lot of other NPCs that don't resurface, for this reason or that. It is what it is.

What it represents and how it reflects on BioWare and related journalists is their problem, not mine.

[Archonsg]

@piratemouse

An all red, all the time Shepard doesn't survive ME2.
;-)

Difference of being a jackass bully and a badass hardcase.

[spirosz]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

But as others said, what she represents and who she replaced result in anger

I'm aware of that. I get what people do not like about it, I just can't bring myself to care about it. Like "catsuits" in ME2 and 3.

I liked Emily Wong, but I liked a lot of other NPCs that don't resurface, for this reason or that. It is what it is.

What it represents and how it reflects on BioWare and related journalists is their problem, not mine.

Because there is a difference between not designing armor in ME2 and spending some budget on that, compared to spending budget on getting Jessica's face and voice in the game, that to me - is a big difference.  It's not just a "catsuit" 

Modifié par spirosz, 01 avril 2013 - 03:05 .