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[Legion of 1337]

 I was just replaying Mass Effect 1, and since normally I don't read the planet descriptions, this time I thought I'd indulge myself in lore. Then I came to Klencory. Read the description:

Klencory is a rock and ice planet with an atmosphere composed of chlorine and argon. The frozen surface is mainly composed of potassium with deposits of iron.

Klencory is famously claimed by the eccentric volus billionaire Kumun Shol. He claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light." These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."

Shol has been excavating on Klencory's toxic surface for two decades, at great expense. No government has valued the world enough to evict his small army of mercenaries. 

Now, aside from the fact that Kumun Shol is obviously indoctrinated:

Casey, Mac, please tell this isn't where you got it from. It may have been terrible, but at least you appeared to have used some of your own creativity to come up with it.

 If this is what I think it is, you two are officially talentless hacks.

Modifié par Legion of 1337, 01 avril 2013 - 02:45 .

[David7204]

What the hell are you talking about? This is IN Mass Effect. Are you trying to say the stole from themselves?

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Wat

[Taboo]

I think the Catalyst was thought up without much thought, very little peer review and with an attempt to send Mass Effect into the upper echelons of Science Fiction.

You got something more emotionally sterile than 2001: A Space Odyssey. That in itself is an accomplishment. The thing about 2001 is that it engages you on multiple levels, especially intellectually.

The Catalyst is an addition to the plot in the Falling Action of a story. Not only is this a huge writing no-no it has a tendency to make the audience angry.

Hacks is not the right word and it's not a nice one either.

I truly believe neither of these two men had any idea what they were doing.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 01 avril 2013 - 02:50 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Well, for starters this is old news, and is a topic that has been discussed many times since in the year post-release.

Secondly, I'm almost certain this was just an unhappy coincidence.

Third...wat?

[Legion of 1337]

David7204 wrote...

What the hell are you talking about? This is IN Mass Effect. Are you trying to say the stole from themselves?

Casey and Mac wrote the whole ending themselves. Since the ending of ME3 wasn't thought up until a ways into ME3's development cycle, this tidbit was, I assume, just supposed to be an interesting factoid, as are many other little bits of unimportant info you get from the planet descriptions.

It's too similar to the Catalyst for me to ignore the possibility that they contrived his existence from this.

THIS.

[Legion of 1337]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Well, for starters this is old news, and is a topic that has been discussed many times since in the year post-release.

Secondly, I'm almost certain this was just an unhappy coincidence.

Third...wat?

I've never seen it posted, so unless it was in the IT thread, which I didn't bother to read past the first page, I had no idea.

[GreyLycanTrope]

I'd say they got the idea from Deus Ex myself.

[Isaidlunch]

It's not how they came up with it. You're welcome.

[JPN17]

Greylycantrope wrote...

I'd say they got the idea from Deus Ex myself.

[Starkzard]

What's so wrong with that? it's pretty cool that this is something that was sort of planned since the first game and not something they came up within the last days of development like I've heard some people state.

Hell I remember someone predicted the ending using Klencory before ME3 came out or something along those lines, I forgot the name, and it was on this forum, I recall he/she getting a lot of messages for it.

[The RPGenius]

What happened is that the night before the ending was written, Mac finished reading Isaac Asimov's Foundation's Edge, while at the same time Casey finished playing Ion Storm's Deus Ex. The next day:

Mac: Dude! I just finished reading this book by the most incredible science fiction writer to ever live, and it's like so awesome and artistic! I wanna make an ending just like Asimov's!

Casey: Man, I know how you feel, I just finished playing this iconic classic RPG last night and now it's all I can think about! I wanna make an ending just like Deus Ex's!

(Enter Patrick Weekes)

Patrick: Hey guys, an EA exec is on the phone for you. I'll put him on speaker.

EA: HAY GUYS I SAW TRANSFORMERS BEAST MACHINES LAST EPISODE LAST NIGHT, I LIKE ROBOTS WHO R ANIMALS LIKE MONKEYS, OMG OMG MAKE UR GAME JUST LIKE IT KK

Mac: Our ending will be like Asimov's pure sci-fi poetry!

Casey: Our ending will be lhought-provoking and powerful, like Deus Ex!

Mac: Our game will be remembered for its creativity and depth!

Casey: And its edgy art and speculation!

EA: MAEK SURE IT DOES HAS GREEN IN IT CUZ GREEN = MONEE$ LOL

Patrick: Uh, guys, Asimov was a literary genius whose unique talent and narrative style could make a bizarre out-of-the-blue concept still seem valid to his story. Deus Ex was a different game from ours with different thematic focuses, and intended messages, not to mention a different tone. Transformers is a series that barely makes sense half the time and even its fans often don't know what to make of the Beast Machines part of the franchise. You can't just take an ending that works for one story and put it into a completely different story with different values and narrative direction and expect it to--

Mac: Yeah, well, what would you know about artistic integrity, anyway?

Patrick: That's just a cheap buzzword facade to hid behind when you can't actually rationalize your--

Casey: That's it, you're banned from the writing room today! In fact, all the writing staff is!

Patrick: But we're all major parts of this project and this has been a team effort so--

EA: STFU WEAKS UR LIKE SOME WHINY LITTLE GHOST OH **** GUYS U SHOULD USE THAT


That or they just lost their goddamn minds.

Modifié par The RPGenius, 01 avril 2013 - 04:28 .

[RocketManSR2]

More like they cracked under the pressure.

[Megaton_Hope]

My personal favorite planet was Antirumgon:

The deeper layers of Antirumgon's interior are semi-liquid slush, due to the presence of methanol. It is thought that bacterium in the deep core create this natural anti-freeze. Some species of Terminus pirate drill through the ice crust to recover this natural alcohol.

,,,But WHY is the rum gone?

[FirstBlood XL]

The RPGenius wrote...

What happened is that the night before the ending was written, Mac finished reading Isaac Asimov's Foundation's Edge, while at the same time Casey finished playing Ion Storm's Deus Ex. The next day:

Mac: Dude! I just finished reading this book by the most incredible science fiction writer to ever live, and it's like so awesome and artistic! I wanna make an ending just like Asimov's!

Casey: Man, I know how you feel, I just finished playing this iconic classic RPG last night and now it's all I can think about! I wanna make an ending just like Deus Ex's!

(Enter Patrick Weekes)

Patrick: Hey guys, an EA exec is on the phone for you. I'll put him on speaker.

EA: HAY GUYS I SAW TRANSFORMERS BEAST MACHINES LAST EPISODE LAST NIGHT, I LIKE ROBOTS WHO R ANIMALS LIKE MONKEYS, OMG OMG MAKE UR GAME JUST LIKE IT KK

Mac: Our ending will be like Asimov's pure sci-fi poetry!

Casey: Our ending will be lhought-provoking and powerful, like Deus Ex!

Mac: Our game will be remembered for its creativity and depth!

Casey: And its edgy art and speculation!

EA: MAEK SURE IT DOES HAS GREEN IN IT CUZ GREEN = MONEE$ LOL

Patrick: Uh, guys, Asimov was a literary genius whose unique talent and narrative style could make a bizarre out-of-the-blue concept still seem valid to his story. Deus Ex was a different game from ours with different thematic focuses, and intended messages, not to mention a different tone. Transformers is a series that barely makes sense half the time and even its fans often don't know what to make of the Beast Machines part of the franchise. You can't just take an ending that works for one story and put it into a completely different story with different values and narrative direction and expect it to--

Mac: Yeah, well, what would you know about artistic integrity, anyway?

Patrick: That's just a cheap buzzword facade to hid behind when you can't actually rationalize your--

Casey: That's it, you're banned from the writing room today! In fact, all the writing staff is!

Patrick: But we're all major parts of this project and this has been a team effort so--

EA: STFU WEAKS UR LIKE SOME WHINY LITTLE GHOST OH **** GUYS U SHOULD USE THAT


That or they just lost their goddamn minds.

LOL --- I like the "artistic integrity" part the best.   

[Yestare7]

Asimov foundation

[Ninja Stan]

Not a productive discussion. Please use one of the existing threads to discuss the endings. Thank you.

End of line.