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Are mics good or bad? - Do you suffer abuse?


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AustereLemur799

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Hi. First of all, sorry if this post is really long and comes across as a rant! But I do think that it's important. Image IPB

I should probably say that I play MP on Xbox. I suspect that the problem would be worse on PS3 since I've played a number of other MP games on PS3 and the oversight/policing has been much worse than on Xbox (mainly because you have to pay subscription for the latter).

On principle, I hate mics (mainly due to bad experiences). I know that the original idea to communicate with team-mates in order to coordinate matches seems like a good thing; but all in all, it often doesn't turn out that way. In private matches, it's great. If not...it's terrible.

I don't know if it's normal to get abuse. I also know that I'm a very sensitive person.

About a week ago, I partook in a gold match where someone was slagging off this other person who was, for all intents and purposes, quite a noob in terms of their N7 ranking, challenge points and loadout (I know you can't judge on solely one of those things alone). I don't mind playing with new people - hey, we all go through the learning process, right?

Basically the bully was calling them all sorts of names (focusing on gay and whatever else you can imagine). At the time, I was impressed that the person being bullied stayed on. I actually felt like leaving since I was offended by all of the things being said, even though they weren't directed at me (thank God; I can only speculate at how that other poor person was feeling).

The match in question was on the hazard version of FB Reactor and the bully took every chance to tell off the noob for venting the reactor at the wrong time, getting all the team-mates killed (even though I didn't think he/she did). The bully was telling us other two guys not to rev the noob when he/she went down because he/she was a gay person and dumb, and whatnot. We still revived them though and helped them along - he/she honestly wasn't the worst player I've seen on gold.

I don't have a mic. I used one on PS3 and gave it to one of my friends (he was a CoD slave, what can I say?). But, if I'd had a mic, I would've told this guy to shut up and that I would report him.

After the match, I sent the victim a message apologising for what he/she went through and that they should totally report the bully. But then they sent me a message back saying 'pardon?'. This person in question turned out to be Canadian - perhaps French canadian. In any case, I felt more than a little bit stupid when I tried to do a good thing.

Despite that setback, I still firmly believe that bullying should be stamped out. Saying that people are gay and stinky and not reviving them/helping them for those reasons is unacceptable.

Sorry about this long post - just had to get this out there. MP should be enjoyable for everyone - no matter what their gender, class, orientation, colour, religion, whatever.

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Red Panda

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I usually get told to go die in a fire.

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Alert; we have identified incoming TL;DR's to your current position.

OT, As a cynic I just assume that people are bad and vent at the slightest oppertunity to inflate themselves. I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt and let them dig themselves a hole before I throw them in it. I do like when people use mics to coordinate, but when people just use it for trash talking, at the end of the day I still wield the might of the mute button.

Modifié par Tokenusername, 01 avril 2013 - 03:44 .


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Titus Thongger

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internetz gona internetz.

we all got to deal with it.

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Dist0rt3d Hum0r

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I prefer my teammates to have mics, even if they do talk trash. I can always jump into a party if I dont want to listen to them.

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sparkydeltorro

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I don't really think mikes are necessary if the players are good.

I don't mind using it if the players stick to Mass Effect... I hate when people start talking about their ****ing lunch of something...

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Submit player review -> Avoid this player -> Language.

File Complaint.

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mics used to be a lot more common in pugs. it was part of the fun. now I just talk to myself.

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Oni Dark Clown

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what did you expect on Xbox? A happy flowery productive discussion?
It's Xbox. frankly I am shocked there was no Racial slurs or comments on the Klan.
Ahh Xbox, how you draw out the "Best" in people.

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Depends on the game. Me3 doesn't seem to have a bad community overall.

Cod is obviously a different story for example.


All in all I prefer when people ave mics. Im usually in a party but if I see someone talking ill go into game chat.

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Eh. I'm usually one of the people who simply sits there and talks crap to annoy other people, with or without friends around, just to make the game more interesting - that and it's always funny seeing people go "try-hard".
I personally don't care though, usually I just sit there and laugh at it, then say something along the the same lines - to a degree (There's certain topics I won't touch). But it's really hit/miss, overall though, the ME3 community is one of the "better" ones on Xbox (That I've played with, at least)

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I don't use gay slurs if I berate people, but I have taken to berating people, of late. If you are a noob, play bronze and silver before you step up to Gold. Too many people are playing Gold that haven't "earned" the right to do so.

For the longest time I didn't care, but for some reason these days, it just irritates the ****** out of me that these people don't want to take the time to practice a bit before jumping into the deeper end of the pool.

FFS people learn spawns, soft cover, power synergies, how to do objectives etc. before playing Gold blah blah blah. The internet is a thing, so there is little reason for people to not be able to seek out strategies/videos to get better at what they are doing.

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AustereLemur799

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I remember the days when everyone thought that mics were absolutely essential to successfully completing a gold match - I guess that now the same is true of plats (and not in the case of the MP masters).

I can deal with people talking general rubbish to themselves or screaming babies in the background (I've got used to it); but abusive language is unacceptable.

BTW, if you report these people; does anything actually happen? I would've reported this guy except that two people in the match had mics plugged in and I didn't want to risk reporting the wrong guy.

You can joke all you like, but I honestly find abuse unacceptable. At least on PS3, people just cheat and don't talk.

Modifié par AustereLemur799, 01 avril 2013 - 04:05 .


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DullahansXMark

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Nah, I'm good. They learn pretty quickly that the more they talk, the harder I outscore them. Shuts them right up.

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Grunt_Platform

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Playing on PC, I have had only good experiences when using my mic in PUGs. People can be a bit hostile about not wanting to carry anyone sometimes, but otherwise most people are pretty friendly and have a sense of humor.

Every now and then some idiot leaves their mic on right next to a washing machine or something and all kinds of horrible noise comes through, but that's pretty rare.

I'm really sorry to hear about the abuse people run into though...

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I rarely use my mic when PUGging, but when I do it's only when someone is actual speaking in a way that is useful (Team communication. rare for Pugs, but it does happen) the rest of the time, i have the luck of having nobody speak at all

otherwise, yeah, I only use it for privatre games with my friends.

Also, long time no see, Lemur :D

Modifié par Dark Satris, 01 avril 2013 - 04:14 .


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Mr Awesome 0ne

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I rarely use a mic - I either listen to Pandora Radio, ESPN Radio, or I am in a group chat with others while I play.

I use to plug in the mic all the time, but I get tired of all the people heavy breathing or arguing with their family/friends, or dogs barking etc etc....

Even though today I had my mic in on Plat and this guy kept getting grabbed by Banshees and screaming every curse word in the book. It was hilarious.

Modifié par Mr Awesome 0ne, 01 avril 2013 - 04:16 .


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eh, my headset has a independent voice control volume, so I can just mute them on the fly.

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Mystical_Gaming

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meh, I have not used a mic outside of party chat from my friends in literal years.

Doesn't matter if it's Halo, Cod, BF3, or Mass Effect 3 multiplayer I refuse to put it on unless I am in a party chat with people I know.

I got better things to do than hear some moron's loud music, hate speech, and random mic noises. And yeah sure, not everyone who has a mic is bad but I don't care. I play just fine in any FPS or 3rd person shooter game without use of communication anyways. Having excellent personal awareness trumps some random dude screaming call-outs of pointless stuff.

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Playing on PS3 is not as bad as you think, I've played hundreds of hours and only been verbally abused twice and both times it was in the lobby, And even then it wasn't that bad!

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All of my encounters with people on mics have been positive, except one.

For the most part, people are nice, have a sense of humor, and just want to have a good time.

The one negative experience I have had was with someone of very high N7 rank that was just acting like an elitist snob. Yeah he was outscoring me with a crappy gun, but I don't play a fraction the amount he did.

But that stuff is very rare (only once in my 250+ hours of playing), and people I tend to run into are pretty good folks. If I am pugging alone (IE im not in a party with other friends looking for a random to fill the last slot) and you have your mic on, I will join in.

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Only time I wish I had a mic was when people aren't helping with objectives.

I just curse to myself and put the team on mah back!

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The idea behind mics was good. The way people use them, usually not so much.
I have a really thick southern accent. Not quite Deliverance-level, but in that general ballpark.
So when I start talking into a mic in any game, not just ME3 but on PC too, I tend to get two responses.
"Is your accent legit?"
Or
"Oh my god dude go *radio edit* your sister and shut up!"

The first type isn't usually too bad. The second type usually ends with me trying to ignore them and talk to the reasonable people on the team/server, and getting drowned out by people who think it's funny to yell nonsense with fake accents into their mic every time I try to speak.
I very rarely take my mic off mute in ME3 because those second types and their RL equivalents have made me seriously self-conscious about it. Doesn't matter what you have to say, if you have my accent and you're playing with people from the US, a lot of people are gonna instantly label you stupid and ignore anything you have to say except to make jokes about squealing boys and purdy mouths like it's the most original jokes ever.

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I don't usually play with people who have mics. But on the occasions I have, no one has ever said anything out of the ordinary except for one guy who told me to stop using Flamer. His rant was pretty hilarious.

I just hate when people have crappy mics and you can't understand what they're sayng because there's either a ton of static or random ambient noise obscuring their voice.

Modifié par Rad_Rage, 01 avril 2013 - 04:58 .


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Wow. I probably would've told the bully he was a piece of garbage and to just find a cliff to dive off of. Do the world a favor, y'know?

As for mics, only use one on the PS3 when I'm playing with friends or people I know.

On PC it's pretty much the same, but with the occasional "Thanks" when someone has to scrape my carcass off the floor. :lol:

Modifié par Voxgizer, 01 avril 2013 - 05:00 .