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Christian video games - Are they marketable to a mature audience?


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Vortex13 wrote...

*snip*

Yeah, it's a little GOW-ish but that's just something off the top of my head.


Already done, say hello to Dante's Inferno

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Legatus Arianus wrote...

People cannot live like lone panthers. Humans need to live in society like successful creatures e.g ants, horses, penguins etc. Moreover of living in a society, the necessity for a government and a dominant ideology should be fulfilled (because of free will and the possible trend toward wicked acts). A nation (consisted of the society and the government) has its laws, morals and customs. Like it or not you will be preached by persons in the society, the corporations or the big guys in the government. So STOP WHINING or go live in a cave alone.

I don't have to pay for the privilege.  Like I'm going to wilt if I don't play a certain video game.  Whatever.

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TheJediSaint wrote...

Vortex13 wrote...

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Let's try and keep the political discussion out of it, please. THat kind of thing gets threads locked.

On topic, what about Left Behind: Eternal Forces?

EDIT: Ninja'd.


Yeah, it's a little GOW-ish but that's just something off the top of my head.


Already done, say hello to Dante's Inferno


True, but Dante's Inferno is based off of the epic poem and not so much Christianity itself. The idea that the Devil could "infiltrate" heaven, or a sinful man being able to redeem a person's soul (whom they more or less sold to the Devil) flies in the face of what the Religion teaches. 

At best, it's a Hollywood version of how they think Christianity would work.

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I think a game adaption of the bible or any related texts would be pretty awesome. Revelation would probably be the soonest book picked up for a game, but any would do. And I imagine there already are many RTS games for all of those battles that take place.
Maybe even a game that takes things off in a maybe heretical path. I think an RPG would be good. We need a story where humanity tries to redeem Satan & return him to Heaven. So many stories start out with him falling because he was either jealous or mistrustful of us, so I think a redemption story would be the next logical step.
But it doesn't have to be an exact bible adaption. Could do something more modern, like the crusades or a game that tries to do something really special & address all the issues Christianity is facing with its Siblings. I know there was some kind of Israel/Palestine simulator out that had you working to bring peace to the region.

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I don't understand really what is meant by "based on Christianity." What type of story would you want told? Would you want a game based on Bible stories? (actually, thinking about the OT, that could deal with some pretty hideous things so may be interesting). Is it that you want the name of the diety to be named Jesus but have the rest be standard videogame fare? Do you want to deal with corruption within the Church? The Inquisition? The Reformation?  OR do you want a story of some godless society and your goal is to save as many people as possible before the rapture? 

I would need to know what is actually meant by a game based on Christianity before I could even begin to think about whether it could be interesting and engaging.  As it is, I probably wouldn't buy it.  I really hate being witnessed to, and I'm certainly not going to buy a game and spend my free time for it.

Edit: If you just mean a game that doesn't have gratuitous sex and violence but a rich and engaging story with some religion mixed in, while it sounds extremely boring to me (and I'm a Sims 3 fan), perhaps someone would buy it.  Maybe a kickstarter thing could be in order.

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I'd find a game based off the bible, especially Old Testament quite very interesting, especially the Israeli journey to set up their kingdom.

Lot's of suffering, death, pain, murder, more suffering, more death and pain.

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I hope not. The Bible is full of plotholes and nonsensical stuff. Imagine the fan feedback :P

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A Christian themed game seems plausible. E.g. a platformer about Jesus Christ's quest to hunt down his betrayer, and former disciple Judas across the Middle East and The Roman Empire.
Spoiler


During the journey Jesus Christ encounters the sick, the hungry, the feeble, the poor, the faithful, non believers, and the sinners who he can assist. Jesus has to be wary as pagan cultists, bandits, Roman Legionnaires, Lucifer and his demonic forces try to foil his efforts during the course of the journey. Mind you there's no combat from Jesus only pacifism as Jesus battles with his words, and miracles to either escape, dissuade, exorcise or baptize willing foes into the faithful.

To aid him in his tasks Jesus is gifted by God the miracles that made him legendary such as water walking, matter conversion (water into wine, food multiplication), healing, exorcism, 6th sense, 3 day auto revive, precognition, and pure unfiltered empathy. Assisting the downtrodden, and pacifying your foes gives Jesus samaritan points that allow him to level up which further boosts his stats (Agl, Str, Def, Hp, Mrc, etc.) and grants the player one miracle point to upgrade preexisting miracles.

Think about it.

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The Hierophant wrote...

A Christian themed game seems plausible. E.g. a platformer about Jesus Christ's quest to hunt down his betrayer, and former disciple Judas across the Middle East and The Roman Empire.

Spoiler


During the journey Jesus Christ encounters the sick, the hungry, the feeble, the poor, the faithful, non believers, and the sinners who he can assist. Jesus has to be wary as pagan cultists, bandits, Roman Legionnaires, Lucifer and his demonic forces try to foil his efforts during the course of the journey. Mind you there's no combat from Jesus only pacifism as Jesus battles with his words, and miracles to either escape, dissuade, exorcise or baptize willing foes into the faithful.

To aid him in his tasks Jesus is gifted by God the miracles that made him legendary such as water walking, matter conversion (water into wine, food multiplication), healing, exorcism, 6th sense, 3 day auto revive, precognition, and pure unfiltered empathy. Assisting the downtrodden, and pacifying your foes gives Jesus samaritan points that allow him to level up which further boosts his stats (Agl, Str, Def, Hp, Mrc, etc.) and grants the player one miracle point to upgrade preexisting miracles.

Think about it.


I have not laughed so hard in a long time.  I think you need to get a job with Zynga!

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Why thank you :)

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The Hierophant wrote...

A Christian themed game seems plausible. E.g. a platformer about Jesus Christ's quest to hunt down his betrayer, and former disciple Judas across the Middle East and The Roman Empire.

Spoiler


During the journey Jesus Christ encounters the sick, the hungry, the feeble, the poor, the faithful, non believers, and the sinners who he can assist. Jesus has to be wary as pagan cultists, bandits, Roman Legionnaires, Lucifer and his demonic forces try to foil his efforts during the course of the journey. Mind you there's no combat from Jesus only pacifism as Jesus battles with his words, and miracles to either escape, dissuade, exorcise or baptize willing foes into the faithful.

To aid him in his tasks Jesus is gifted by God the miracles that made him legendary such as water walking, matter conversion (water into wine, food multiplication), healing, exorcism, 6th sense, 3 day auto revive, precognition, and pure unfiltered empathy. Assisting the downtrodden, and pacifying your foes gives Jesus samaritan points that allow him to level up which further boosts his stats (Agl, Str, Def, Hp, Mrc, etc.) and grants the player one miracle point to upgrade preexisting miracles.

Think about it.


LOL, I'd even play that.:lol:

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 Perhaps some should pay the licencing feet to make Bible Blaster a reality.

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Bioware is actually treading close to that mark as they seem to be embracing a social justice angle. I'm not going to pay to be sermonized, by anyone.

I hadn't noticed.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
Bioware is actually treading close to that mark as they seem to be embracing a social justice angle. I'm not going to pay to be sermonized, by anyone.

I hadn't noticed.

What the hell is he talking about, J?

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J. Reezy wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
Bioware is actually treading close to that mark as they seem to be embracing a social justice angle. I'm not going to pay to be sermonized, by anyone.

I hadn't noticed.

What the hell is he talking about, J?

Bisexualize all the things? I don't know. I don't pay enough attention to romances in BioWare games to find some increasingly apparent social agenda perpetuated by the BSN government.

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Would the bible make a great game?

Hell yeah!

Go around rape'n, swarming the hills with Locust, Wars, more rape, Incest, talking snake demons, stoning people. That game would be like COD Meets, DA Meets, Mortal Kombat. That would be ballin.

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RedArmyShogun wrote...

Would the bible make a great game?

Hell yeah!

Go around rape'n, swarming the hills with Locust, Wars, more rape, Incest, talking snake demons, stoning people. That game would be like COD Meets, DA Meets, Mortal Kombat. That would be ballin.


To be fair, that's just the first half.

Edit:  Old Testament: The Videogame.  Pre-order now, and get the New Testament Day-One DLC for free!

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On a serious note, I was thinking about this just yesterday. Despite the perpetual threat of (literal) deus ex machine, I think such a narrative could be extraordinary if done properly, especially since there is no single game I think of that explores religious faith with any depth. Hell, I think the last time I was impressed with how spirituality was handled in a fictional work might have been TNG.

...But seeing as how a large portion of game consumers are annoying atheists who smell of Reddit, I question how successful it would be.

I think I'll come back to this thread later when I'm not on my mobile

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Dude it would be like Game of thrones except with even more rape and incest, and political subterfuge (King David gets a guy killed just so he could f*ck the dude's wife zomg!)

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Random Jerkface wrote...

On a serious note, I was thinking about this just yesterday. Despite the perpetual threat of (literal) deus ex machine, I think such a narrative could be extraordinary if done properly, especially since there is no single game I think of that explores religious faith with any depth. Hell, I think the last time I was impressed with how spirituality was handled in a fictional work might have been TNG.

...But seeing as how a large portion of game consumers are annoying atheists who smell of Reddit, I question how successful it would be.

I think I'll come back to this thread later when I'm not on my mobile


I agree that a game that explores religious faith could be very powerful.   I think the trick is to avoid any questions about the existence of the divine and instead focus on conflict between a character's faith and the world around them.  It needn't be specifically about any one religon, either.   

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Assassin's Creed.

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Assassin's Creed.

Hmm...

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TheJediSaint wrote...

I agree that a game that explores religious faith could be very powerful.   I think the trick is to avoid any questions about the existence of the divine and instead focus on conflict between a character's faith and the world around them.  It needn't be specifically about any one religon, either.   

Exactly. Hell, even if it did focus on a single religion and leant toward the existence of divinity, it could very easily be a narrative exploring the struggle between faith and disbelief (something I desperately wanted to see from Ashley in Mass Effect), or the pain inherent in trying to balance inner piety and obedience...fear, doubt, loathing, resentment—think something like the Aqedah. No matter how you approach the subject, the stories will always be very human, and with a skilful writer, poignant. Combat doesn't even need to be the primary mechanic. In fact, I'd love if it weren't, because we need more games like that. It'd be difficult, but there are infinite permutations a project like that could take, and just as many chances to strike gold.

But yeah, I don't think it would be marketable. Ashley said "God" once and fans had such a visceral negative reaction that they still to this instant claim she's a "Bible-thumper," never mind she never mentioned what religion she subscribes to, if any. From what I've seen the majority (or a very loud minority) of gamers refuse to tolerate reflections about spirituality unless it's included tangentially in a pseudo-Biblical, hyper-violent/sexual backdrop, or if the concept itself is being dragged through the mud.

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I'm more into the spiritual aspect, personally, compared to the actual "religions", but I wouldn't mind certain games to dive more into these type of themes, depending on the game as well. Doesn't even have to be focused mainly on religion, but have that be a main focus or element for a character, that goes through stages of enlightenment or tragedy that make them doubt their own beliefs that they were raised on, it would be neat.

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spirosz wrote...

Assassin's Creed.


I don't think that really count's as an example.   It's themes are more grounded in the philosphy of Fredrick Nietzsche then having anything do to with religious faith.

I mean in the first game (which is the only one I played) is basically about Altair developing from a steroytypical nihilist into an Ubermech.

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