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Christian video games - Are they marketable to a mature audience?


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Surviving the Flood sounds fun.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Sometimes I think it would be fun if there was a SRPG where America's culture wars actually become violent. In the Secular Humanist campaign you could wage war on Christmas, in the Conservative Christian campaign you could defend it and use roadblocks to stop trucks shipping textbooks full of Satanic lies etc.


Hehe, that sounds like the type of game Conservative Christians would use to generalize a set of people(in your example, secular humanists).

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 02 avril 2013 - 01:05 .


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Aren't people tired of the crass commercialization of their faith? Do we really need a "Christian video store" alongside the bookstores and TV networks?

I'm not in favor of games that promote any kind of agenda, be it political or religious or whatever. If it's overtly marketed as such, I'm 99.99% guaranteed not to buy it, no matter how good it is. Bioware is actually treading close to that mark as they seem to be embracing a social justice angle. I'm not going to pay to be sermonized, by anyone.


I kind of agree with you on Bioware.

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Capt. Obvious wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
Sometimes I think it would be fun if there was a SRPG where America's culture wars actually become violent. In the Secular Humanist campaign you could wage war on Christmas, in the Conservative Christian campaign you could defend it and use roadblocks to stop trucks shipping textbooks full of Satanic lies etc.

Hehe, that sounds like the type of game Conservative Christians would use to generalize a set of people.

Ideally, the Secular Humanist campaign would feel like a parody of the far left written by moderate conservatives and the Conservative Christian campaign would feel like a parody of the far right written by moderate liberals. The idea of the game is to make fun of the culture wars and the people far enough from the center to think they're worth fighting. Oh yeah, and with combat that feels similar to that of WarCraft III.

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Such a game would sell like hotcakes given an endorsement from any major denomination. Untapped potential here.

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Now I want an open world action rpg where you play as Jesus and walk the Earth, occasionally stopping to clear out encampments of Roman bandits.

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Ghost Lightning wrote...
Now I want an open world action rpg where you play as Jesus and walk the Earth, occasionally stopping to clear out encampments of Roman bandits.

After the "Djesus Uncrossed" controversy, that would be sure to turn a few heads.

Modifié par bobobo878, 02 avril 2013 - 01:13 .


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Medieval: Total War 2 and Crusader Kings have an themes centered around Christianity as you could go on crusades and had to please the papacy. It doesn't explore modern Christianity, but it does depict pretty well how annoying the church must have been for kings back when.

As someone mentioned, any game that explores the best teachings of the church like "thou shalt not kill" and so forth are probably the best examples. It doesn't have to be a total overkill in Christian themes.

Characters like Daniel and Joshua from Fallout: New Vegas truly explore how modern Christianity is done. We have both of these guys on opposite spectrums, Joshua serving the gun and the lord, and Daniel serving god and man. Even though they differ on their views, both consider themselves Christians. Now, that is the type of Christian theme I'd like to see explored in more games.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
Sometimes I think it would be fun if there was a SRPG where America's culture wars actually become violent. In the Secular Humanist campaign you could wage war on Christmas, in the Conservative Christian campaign you could defend it and use roadblocks to stop trucks shipping textbooks full of Satanic lies etc.

Hehe, that sounds like the type of game Conservative Christians would use to generalize a set of people.

Ideally, the Secular Humanist campaign would feel like a parody of the far left written by moderate conservatives and the Conservative Christian campaign would feel like a parody of the far right written by moderate liberals. The idea of the game is to make fun of the culture wars and the people far enough from the center to think they're worth fighting. Oh yeah, and with combat that feels similar to that of WarCraft III.


That's actually a neat idea. I'm all up for another parody of politics. Sometimes you gotta laugh at the ridiculousness of it all. Of course, that won't stop people people from feeling insulted. But then again, the ensuing  controversy could actually give it the attention it needs and that might spur people to buy it.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 02 avril 2013 - 01:27 .


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*shrug* I don't see why a game based on Christianity (somehow. eg. Third person protag who happens to be a Christian) couldn't deal with dark themes and terror. Marketing would be somewhat harder though, if you were actively marketing it as a Christian game, since it'd likely be perceived as a niche audience. I mean, I'm a Christian, but I don't go out looking for games that mention my faith. I buy games that look fun. :)

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Of course it's marketable, The Bible is violent and interesting. The old Testament and the book of Revelations specifically. It could be set after the rapture and you missed it all the while finding out what's happening and make meaningful choices during.

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I don't think that's the sort of game OP is talking about.

...Especially since those types of stories are already on the market.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 02 avril 2013 - 02:08 .


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@Avalon That already happened--the Left Behind video game and book series.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

*shrug* I don't see why a game based on Christianity (somehow. eg. Third person protag who happens to be a Christian) couldn't deal with dark themes and terror. Marketing would be somewhat harder though, if you were actively marketing it as a Christian game, since it'd likely be perceived as a niche audience. I mean, I'm a Christian, but I don't go out looking for games that mention my faith. I buy games that look fun. :)


I hear you on that, if a game is fun I buy it.

I would think that a (correctly) marketed game, especially one that delt with more mature themes could generate a fairly size able turn out. I mean look at "The Bible" series on History, the viewers on that show was large enough to garner attention from mainstream broadcasters so that is something. Granted not everyone who tuned in would be interested in an M for mature Christian based video game, but the market is there.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

@Avalon That already happened--the Left Behind video game and book series.

I owned the game and the books i don't know why i just said that when many possibilites are available

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It's a game concept that's had moderate attempts, but hasn't reached status enough to be considered a great/superb game - Super Noah's Ark 3D and Bible Games are infamous(particularly from AVGN) for being Do-Not-Touch titles.

Having said that, it's still an intriguing setting where there's space to try out new ideas. At the very least, someone could try building an indie game via Steam/GoG/etc. and see if there's a genuine market for it.

You could do some sort of personal side story in the middle of a biblical setting i.e. Moses and the plagues/Parting of the Red Sea or The Life/Death/Ressurection of Jesus. Whether or not you believe in those teachings, there's still a wealth of narrative content there.

Granted not everyone who tuned in would be interested in an M for mature Christian based video game, but the market is there.

Pretty much that.

Modifié par DominusVita, 02 avril 2013 - 02:32 .


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Vortex13 wrote...

I would think that a (correctly) marketed game, especially one that delt with more mature themes could generate a fairly size able turn out. I mean look at "The Bible" series on History, the viewers on that show was large enough to garner attention from mainstream broadcasters so that is something. Granted not everyone who tuned in would be interested in an M for mature Christian based video game, but the market is there.


I thought that the series had to do w/ the history of the bible and not actually based on the bible itself since it's the History Channel. I mean, wouldn't the History Channel have nonfiction programming about history?

I can't see why people wouldn't be interested in an M-rated Christian game when you consider the fact that the source material itself is certainly something that is only for a mature audience.

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Vortex13 wrote...

Erik Lehnsherr wrote...

I'm sure it is marketable, but until I'm given specifics, no-thanks.


What sort of specifics, if I may ask? I would agree that the concept of such a game would need to be well done, but apart from that, what other specifics are you referring to?

What about a game set during Lucifer's rebellion wherein you play as an angel fighting demons? 

Thats just something off the top of my head, I'm sure, given enough time and resources, a developer could make a more interesting concept then what I proposed. 




the Bible has a LOT of mature stories that can be played. Soddom and Gammora being rained upon by fire and brimstone (and results in Lot's daughters thinking they're the only people alive, so they get their dad drunk and sleep with him to try and preserve the human race), and you could play as a survivor. The Tower of Babel with all the languages being mixed up, and you could play as a tribe in a sim-city sort of style, building the tower. You could fight in one of the many wars between the Israelites and the Philistines. Topple the walls of Jericho with the aid of a prostitute from within the city. Haman trying to kill all the jews because Mordichai refused to bow to him because he wasn't the king and he wasn't God. Fight in defense of Jerusalem, trying to save as many lives as possible when Babylon invaded.

The Old Testament alone has PLENTY of themes that can be utilized, and used for a video game, ending with the theme that those who follow God's prophets tend to turn out better than those who don't, even if the choice makes no sense at the time (like walking around the walls of Jericho for seven days, and on the seventh day, walk around seven times then yell really loudly.)

The possibilities are endless.

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dragonflight288 wrote...

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the Bible has a LOT of mature stories that can be played. Soddom and Gammora being rained upon by fire and brimstone (and results in Lot's daughters thinking they're the only people alive, so they get their dad drunk and sleep with him to try and preserve the human race), and you could play as a survivor. The Tower of Babel with all the languages being mixed up, and you could play as a tribe in a sim-city sort of style, building the tower. You could fight in one of the many wars between the Israelites and the Philistines. Topple the walls of Jericho with the aid of a prostitute from within the city. Haman trying to kill all the jews because Mordichai refused to bow to him because he wasn't the king and he wasn't God. Fight in defense of Jerusalem, trying to save as many lives as possible when Babylon invaded.

The Old Testament alone has PLENTY of themes that can be utilized, and used for a video game, ending with the theme that those who follow God's prophets tend to turn out better than those who don't, even if the choice makes no sense at the time (like walking around the walls of Jericho for seven days, and on the seventh day, walk around seven times then yell really loudly.)

The possibilities are endless.


I agree that the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, if full of material for making a game.  Hollywood has been making movies based on the Bible for decades, afterall.

However, as I've stated before, I think a game that delves into Christian themes would have greater appeal tham one that delves into Biblical history and mythology.  

Modifié par TheJediSaint, 02 avril 2013 - 06:09 .


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SOLID_EVEREST wrote...
As someone mentioned, any game that explores the best teachings of the church like "thou shalt not kill" and so forth are probably the best examples. It doesn't have to be a total overkill in Christian themes.
Characters like Daniel and Joshua from Fallout: New Vegas truly explore how modern Christianity is done. We have both of these guys on opposite spectrums, Joshua serving the gun and the lord, and Daniel serving god and man. Even though they differ on their views, both consider themselves Christians. Now, that is the type of Christian theme I'd like to see explored in more games.

I'm inclined to agree on this point. Although I tend to run the other way when I come across pieces of media explicitly labeled as Christian, religious themes can work great in games when explored in depth.

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I only played the demo but doesn't El Shaddai focus on religion for the most part? I can't remember if it's about Christianity or about the divine in general though.

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Conclusion made by comments in this thread:
A Jewish game is more popular and exciting than a Christian game.