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Custom Content Challenge: April 2013: Drow Stuff


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#151
HinnishPastry

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I like to make my NWN look like Baldur's Gate :)

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So I made some 'Ust Natha' drow placeables for you guys. Hope you like them!

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1x Rug
1x Bed
1x Armchair
2x Tables

PS: Does anyone have any advice for getting chairs working in-game? I can't get my pc to sit down on it at the right angle, unless I rotate the chair and export it again; but then the placeable no longer orients to the forward facing position. Maybe I just messed it up and should do it again?

Modifié par HinnishPastry, 25 avril 2013 - 06:16 .


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Shemsu-Heru

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Very nice; I wish there would be a tileset of a drow city in the style of BG2 Ust Nath!.....

#153
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Those look super awesome.

#154
Draygoth28

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I agree with Shemsu on the tile set, and good work on those placeables.

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MerricksDad

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Excellent placeables! Going to look great with Ssythilac's tileset

#156
Shemsu-Heru

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A new drow female head. It's a female variation of my previous head....

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NWN_baba yaga

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Drow stuff FTW guys/ gals!

Really good stuff...ehm meant tasty stuff yes precious tasty!!!

#158
Ssythilac

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Great placeables HinnisPastry! Ahh, I remember Ust Natha well... And yes, a tileset looking similar will be magnific, but all of these alien and floating architecture is maybe too much effort to remade in NWN. But, for me Ust Natha is one of the few "true looking drow city" I have seen in videogames.

@MerricksDad: Just my thoughts! ;) Sadly, my computer crashes yesterday (a horrid thing with the battery of the mother board), Anyway I saved before the crash all of my content in the Underdark module, and I hope the next week the thing are fixed and I can go back to work...

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I don't know if it's too late to request, but could we have more recolors of this? All items gold and all items purple to better mix or match?

http://social.biowar...8948/254921.jpg

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MerricksDad

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Just a few comment:

I know a lot of the 90's images of drow were black and white, or with little color, making the drow basically black. the 80's games and some of the 90's stuff made drow themselves a purple blue. Their description now is inky black, so I assume its like really really black (half lycan half vampire black, like in "underworld" movie) with a bluish hue in the shine. So really, we don't have any drow that look like drow. We just have drow that look like book cover drow so we can see their features.

Now for building stuff. I know the older stuff with all the purple faerie fire looks purple, but are the drow's only colors they can see purple? I bet not. Maybe we should be letting ambient and diffuse colors in an area color the tiles and placeables for us in the correct way. Make everything stone colored, or something the drow would be able to pick out as different colors. Clothing throughout the 2000's was mostly purple and black, but the new stuff coming out is really really black with mixtures of blood red, as well as more spider silk white and facepaints (not just Ebberon either.)

I personally like neutral colors, or just offset from earth tones. Then brighten with emitters, especially for tileset additions. Artwork through the 2000's had some great blue-green drow stuff, fungally lit underdark scenes, as well as non-purple drow attire.

May I also suggest anybody putting glow on drow eyes, especially mine which do not conform to standard elf height, either add emitters near the eyes right on the model, or modify the eye socket color in the texture to be really really high saturation, so even in darkness, the eye can be seen as colored. Note my pictures of the draegloth with the appearance of glowing eyes. That is NOT an emitter.

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Shemsu-Heru

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@MerricksDad:
Personally I try to avoid pure black or closer colors for the Drow skin, preferring different tones of purple , deep blue, or grey Instead.
It's not logical that a race which spend most of their existence away from the sun rays could conserve a dark tone in their skin.....

#163
Shemsu-Heru

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The Drow Snake Whip:
This is not my best work, but I didn't want to let pass this challenge without include such an iconic drow weapon. Don't misunderstand me the weapon works properly; However because of my lack of experience in animation and the use of skins, I couldn't do it looks better.
Please, if some skilful builder would had the intention to add a snake whip, don't left to do it for this.

There is two texture variations....

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Modifié par Shemsu-Heru, 25 avril 2013 - 11:29 .


#164
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I think in FR lore, drow were cursed black. So its a permanent magical feature of their sub race. Of course one of the more recent authors undid that fact and set some of the drow back to different color. Seems like that whole part of the FR story has been erased since 4th ed though. Kinda confusing, either that or I missed a book somewhere. I do think there was a 1st edition creature catalog that came up with shadow elves, and they were black haired white skinned cave dwelling elves. I do personally prefer they way we are drawing them up for this CCC.

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and awesome whip by the way!

Modifié par MerricksDad, 26 avril 2013 - 12:49 .


#165
Mecheon

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Cave dwellers end up white skinned, its a fact of nature. Check out olms or cave shrimp for key examples

Drow can probably blame curses, magic, or the Underdark being a terrible place, plus they may or may not have a bit of Svartalver (Black Elf, nordic phrase believed interchangeable with dwarf and dark elves) in 'em. They were the ones who made Fenrir's chains, hence probably mostly being interpreted as dwarf nowadays

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The Amethyst Dragon

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If you're thinking evolution...there is light in some places in the underdark, right? I think black skin would be an advantage, able to blend in better in such situations.

Of course, the white hair kind of messes that up, but so too do some of the displays of various wild creatures looking for mates..."hey! look at me! I wanna pass on my genes before I get eaten!"

Purple or blue skin? Probably just used so you could see some facial features of drow in the artwork. I personally prefer black-skinned drow...I don't expect to be able to see their faces well in the dark anyway.


For drow in my PW, I just use dynamic elf models and pick a black skin color and (usually) white or grey hair.  It works out well, since I can then assign them the "assassin" fighting style phenotype and they look cool doing it.  I then just put them in clothing/armor with the blacks, greys, and sickly greens associated with their patron deity (which is not a spider goddess in my PW).

Modifié par The Amethyst Dragon, 26 avril 2013 - 08:59 .


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Natural selection would favor dark skinned Drow in the Underdark for survivability.

I recall some lore decades back that said the Underdark held some strange radiation that may have contributed to drow abilities.
Drow are similar to Drough, in my opinion, and are based on them.

Great work going on here, btw! Awesome!

#168
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one more male and female.
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and I got ne of the mounts finished.
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Modifié par Draygoth28, 27 avril 2013 - 05:01 .


#169
Pstemarie

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You're killin me with anticipation Draygoth28. Gimme gimme gimme...

#170
MerricksDad

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That male armor is awesome!

#171
PLUSH HYENA of DOOM

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JENNA - For your mixing and matching delight, PLUSH HYENA of DOOM has slaved away in hour after hour of backbreaking toil beneath the electric whips of the kinky, PVC-clad Vixen Guards in the Dreaded Evil Placeables Mine of Morbidia to produce a complete set of Purple AND a complete set of Gold Drow Placeables as requested...

Actually it only took five minutes of easy button pressing, but it sounds better the other way...

I shall now go and e-mail them to Amethyst Dragon and urge him to stamp cruelly upon and throw away the package I already sent him and replace it with this one.

PS:- I don't want to hear about green or red versions! (I tested - they looked a bit rubbish). Besides, how many boxes with Spiders on them can you possibly need?

#172
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PLUSH HYENA of DOOM wrote...

PS:- I don't want to hear about green or red versions! (I tested - they looked a bit rubbish). Besides, how many boxes with Spiders on them can you possibly need?

I live in Australia, PHoD

You know this is a rhetorical question for me

#173
PLUSH HYENA of DOOM

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When I was out there, it was more a question of how many Spiders were IN the boxes than on them!

#174
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Alright, well I guess I am bout out of time to work on a tenth or eleventh drow. I'll be sending in mine this afternoon or tomorrow just to make sure it gets in. Here's 9 drow as good as they are going to get visually. I intend to compile at least half of them before release.

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About the draegloth: he will be included in the file, as well as the supermodel glabrezu. He's skinned, but if you prefer non skinned, just delete the skin and use the underlying bones as is, plus a little texture fixing. He DOES still have a shadow bug, even after massive tweaking. The bug is enough to make him NOT show in the toolset half the time. He also crashes NWN on module unload. During play, he works fine, but I don't know what all module unload entails, so it might break some stuff. I really just don't know.

And since I'm out of time and feeling exceptionally lazy to boot, the priestess, two wizards and the draegloth do not have proper 3e stats associated with their test entities. I figure you'd all change those anyway.

This has been the most fun challenge Ive seen so far!

#175
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@MerricksDad - have you tried turning off shadows on all parts of the model. If you have the skin set to render a shadow, turn that shadow off. If, after all the shadows are off, the model still has issues try reducing the geometry on the bones to as little as small you can get it then turn the shadows on for just the non-skinned geometry.

Alternatively, I'd be more than glad to take a look for you.

Modifié par Pstemarie, 27 avril 2013 - 06:05 .