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[sasukeuchiha225]

Hey guys just wanted to make a quick post about romances are they really worth it in the Dragon Age franchise. The reason i ask is because we don"t know if  the romances are returning or if they will only be mentioned ( I think I spelled that right). So what is your take do you not mind if the romances return or do you want to see the love of your Warden and Hawkes life again. Thanks for taking the time to read.

[JasonPogo]

Yes they are. If the story falliwes a new character who cares about your old romance? As long as they don't say my Warden or Hawke fell in love with someone other the. Who I picked in my game I am good with them never being referanced again in some other characters story.

[BouncyFrag]

They are in there. I saw a thread talking about the dialog wheel where a dev said that the 'heart' icon will return in DA3 to make romance dialog options crystal clear. I don't mind romances but I wonder how the game will end up with all the attention they get on the forum and how ridiculous some of the topics are.

[Maria Caliban]

sasukeuchiha225 wrote...

The reason i ask is because we don"t know if  the romances are returning or if they will only be mentioned ( I think I spelled that right).

If romances don't return, I shall eat my cat.

[ironcreed2]

Sure they are worth it. Relationships across the board are a BioWare staple because they make party-based role playing games. You will align with the ideals of some, while you will hate others. Beyond that, you can even form romantic relationships. The characters and your relationships with them are always at the heart of BioWare games and are what makes the experience feel so personal and replayable. Would not be a proper BioWare game without this feature.

Modifié par ironcreed2, 01 avril 2013 - 04:29 .

[BouncyFrag]

Maria Caliban wrote...

sasukeuchiha225 wrote...

The reason i ask is because we don"t know if  the romances are returning or if they will only be mentioned ( I think I spelled that right).

If romances don't return, I shall eat my cat.

What will happen if there are no romances, from the meme thread.

[sasukeuchiha225]

Thanks for the replys. The reason i asked this question was because a friend of mine thinks they are not worth it because he thinks they won"t show up again. For example in origins Morrigan was his favorite romance she obviously wasn't in DA2 and in DA2 Isabela was his (and mine) favorite romance and we are just concered if your romance dosen't show up or at least gets mentioned is it worth it lol. But I can see that they are.

[Killdren88]

Never really got into romance be it in books or film until I began playing Bioware games. Fighting along my comrades made me care for them and such. Plus if the story is dark I like soft spots like that to lighten the mood. I would love to see the same thing here in DA:I. I'm confident that Bioware will create characters that I want see. Character s that I want to protect form the woes of the story like Merrill and Liara. Or characters that can be my PC's shells like Ashley and Leliana. So yeah romance in these games are great for getting people invested

[JasonPogo]

sasukeuchiha225 wrote...

Thanks for the replys. The reason i asked this question was because a friend of mine thinks they are not worth it because he thinks they won"t show up again. For example in origins Morrigan was his favorite romance she obviously wasn't in DA2 and in DA2 Isabela was his (and mine) favorite romance and we are just concered if your romance dosen't show up or at least gets mentioned is it worth it lol. But I can see that they are.

ok again I have to say that would be a valid argument if you were playing the same character again in the next game.  But say you did Romance Isabela in DA2.  Then in DA3 you play someone other than Hawke.  Would you want Isabela as a romance again?  Poor Hawke...

[sasukeuchiha225]

JasonPogo wrote...

sasukeuchiha225 wrote...

Thanks for the replys. The reason i asked this question was because a friend of mine thinks they are not worth it because he thinks they won"t show up again. For example in origins Morrigan was his favorite romance she obviously wasn't in DA2 and in DA2 Isabela was his (and mine) favorite romance and we are just concered if your romance dosen't show up or at least gets mentioned is it worth it lol. But I can see that they are.

ok again I have to say that would be a valid argument if you were playing the same character again in the next game.  But say you did Romance Isabela in DA2.  Then in DA3 you play someone other than Hawke.  Would you want Isabela as a romance again?  Poor Hawke...

Good Point lol

[ironcreed2]

sasukeuchiha225 wrote...

Thanks for the replys. The reason i asked this question was because a friend of mine thinks they are not worth it because he thinks they won"t show up again. For example in origins Morrigan was his favorite romance she obviously wasn't in DA2 and in DA2 Isabela was his (and mine) favorite romance and we are just concered if your romance dosen't show up or at least gets mentioned is it worth it lol. But I can see that they are.

I'll be fine with a fresh experience and a new character as long as the game is great. But I absolutely want Morrigan and the child to be part of the plot in some meaningful way, even if she does not return as a romance option.

[themikefest]

Yes. The romances are worth it. Since the majority of my playthroughs are as a ruthless b*t*h, its nice for her to go back to camp/home and share some downtime with my LI..

[Fast Jimmy]

I would say they are not worth it, for my own opinion, but that Bioware has reeled in too many fans that get a great deal of enjoyment from them at this point, so they are stuck doing them.

You may as well ask if being able to kill people in a GTA game is worth it, or if having an open-world, sandbox experience in an Elder Scrolls game is worth it. Regardless of if the developer even wanted to cut said content out, they are stuck doing so unless they want to start an entirely new IP.

So, any new DA or ME game that is for a major platform will have romances and sex scenes. "Worth it" probably will never enter into the equation. The fans will demand it, so it will be included. They could strip out fighting, levels, equipment, races, choices, imports and/or dragons out of Dragon Age and still sell units if they had romances. So they will never ditch them.

[SmokePants]

What is the "it" in "worth it"? Emotional investment? The effort required to select dialogue options? What do you mean, exactly? Is there some labor involved in experiencing optional romance content that I'm not seeing?

I've noticed it a lot on the BSN. Some people are of the mind that if a choice or action doesn't carry over into the next game via save import, then it was pointless. But if self-contained choices are really pointless, then why do you play video games? Only a handful even have a save import feature. You've lost sight of why we're given choices in the first place.

There is value in the here and now, people. Being presented with a choice has immediate value. In fact, most of its value is immediate. Seeing the choice pay off later in the game is great, but it is merely icing on the cake. And having that choice carry over to the next game is the cherry on top.

The cherry does not validate the cake. The cake is still a cake without it.

Modifié par SmokePants, 01 avril 2013 - 04:53 .

[Fast Jimmy]

I think the "it" involved is the work required by the development team to write, animate, voice, program and script the romances involved.

[wsandista]

No. Romances(and any other kind of relationship) are only worth it if they serve a thematic purpose or help advance the story/character development in some way other than "LOL I'm banging Anders".

Good romances are like Gann and Safia in MotB.

[Legbiter]

Romances, yes. Romance obsessives on the BSN, not so much. Too much like this:

http://www.rooshvfor...nt.php?aid=9777

[zsom]

Fast Jimmy wrote...
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They could strip out fighting, levels, equipment, races, choices, imports and/or dragons out of Dragon Age and still sell units if they had romances. So they will never ditch them.

That is... disturbingly accurate. I like romances in Bioware games, I've liked them since they were first introduced in BG2. But I do feel they are getting a bit too much attention lately. Less romantically available characters and more "normal" dialogue would be a welcome change.

[schalafi]

krul2k wrote...

the word "resources" keeps getting used for alot of things, so i say strip out romances and companions and use the "resources" from them elsewhere

Like more killing?

[Sutekh]

Maker. Someone posts an innocent romance question and it's automatically "unleash the dogs of war". Never fails. Like clockwork.

@ Legbiter: (most) people don't become romance-obsessive because they want pixel sex. It comes from a completely different place. The sex point is only brought up by (some) anti-romance. And, if I might add, in a really desingenuous way.

@krul2k : Where would you put those resources?

Companions (and romance, to a lesser extent) are an integral part of the DA franchise. They're part of its identity. Strip them, and you're not in Thedas anymore. There's plenty of good games out there without, or with very little, companions / romance. Do we need yet another one?

I love the setting enough that I'd still buy the game, but there would certainly be something missing.

@OP: Romance's worth it only if you feel like it. If one or more character attract you, then Bioware do it decently enough (albeit far from perfectly) to justify the effort, whatever that is. If not, it's completely optional and won't get in the way of the gaming experience if you don't want to.

As for past LI showing up in next games, sometimes they do, sometime they don't. When they do, sometimes, it's a good thing, sometimes, it isn't. Depends, really.

[Battlebloodmage]

I like the series, so if there is no romance, I wouldn't mind. It's one of the better features in the series, but it wouldn't be a make or break deal for me. Most of the games I play had no romance anyway.

[Medhia Nox]

Romances as they are currently? They serve their marketing purpose.

I look forward to the day when romances are actually integrated into a storyline (without necessarily being "about" the romance) and serving an actual purpose aside from said marketing gimmick.

[LolaLei]

OP: The romances are returning in DA3. Gaider made a post in one of the threads about how the protagonist will be able to kiss his/her love interest whenever he/she wants in the game.

[Maclimes]

David Gaider wrote...

I can safely say that romance will have no greater and no lesser place than in any of our recent titles.

 http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/14235800&lf=8

Modifié par Maclimes, 01 avril 2013 - 07:24 .