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[Steelcan]

David Gaider wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

I have to ask. Is anybody sure he didnt get synthesis by accident. Maybe he was just expolring the crucible and got too close to the beam forcing the synthesis cutscene but was so disgusted by the endings he couldnt bring himself to reload and choose destroy..

I weighed the options and chose what I felt was the lesser of three evils. I stand by my choice and am perfectly capable of thinking for myself, thanks.

. Just wondering, Why did you think Synthesis was the lesser of three evils? 

Modifié par Steelcan, 02 avril 2013 - 07:49 .

[dreamgazer]

David Gaider wrote...

I said at the time that Twilight wasn't to my personal taste, but obviously that means I love it and Edward is totally my waifu. It's funnier to say that, and evidently people will believe anything if you repeat it enough.

So, you yearn for Edward to be your waifu. Got it. 

As for the ME3 ending-- I'm uncertain why anyone should care which one I chose in that playthrough from almost a year ago. If someone needs my character's choice to lend theirs legitimacy... I'm not sure what that says about their own convictions, but it's not good.

Indeed.

[Auintus]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Wait...are you honestly comparing the curing of the genophage to synthesis?

Widespread biological improvement, little input of the affected into the decision-making process, difficulty in reversal(considering the destruction of the Shroud).
In a word: Yes, yes I am.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Kel Riever wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Ecrulis wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

David Gaider also liked the romance in Twilight.

JUST SAYING.

Not sure how I missed this one, but if it's true.....well yea it kind of speaks for itself

Is that nugget seriously still being passed around?

I read the first Twilight novel because I thought it was worth examining. The romance in it obviously struck a chord with some, and I wanted to take a look at how and why rather than relying on the judgement of others-- many of whom probably have neither read the book for themselves or seen any of the movies. I imagine these are the same people who would deride fundamentalists for condemning the content of books they've never read, or hated the reports on "graphic sexual content" in Mas Effect by people who'd clearly never played it or given said content even cursory examination.

I said at the time that Twilight wasn't to my personal taste, but obviously that means I love it and Edward is totally my waifu. It's funnier to say that, and evidently people will believe anything if you repeat it enough.

As for the ME3 ending-- I'm uncertain why anyone should care which one I chose in that playthrough from almost a year ago. If someone needs my character's choice to lend theirs legitimacy... I'm not sure what that says about their own convictions, but it's not good.

Holy earth mother.  Twilight is Mass Effect 4 and you get to play David's waifu.  Proven by the above quote!

You did it now. You forgot to put the [sarcasm] [/sarcasm]

This is the Internet. People take things way too seriously if you don't.

And I agree with him. If someone needs his character's choice to lend their's legitimacy... there is a problem with that person's convictions. I don't need Gaider's character's choice to lend mine legitimacy one bit. However, that's not what I was asking. I'm not going to flame him over it.

We joke, and jab, but as far as writing story content, Mac is no David Gaider. We've known that since DA:O. I still have hope for DA3 only because of David.

[_- Songlian -]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Well, damn. If David Gaider chose Synthesis, then I guess I should, too!

) Yeah, my thoughts exactly. 

[dreamgazer]

Eterna5 wrote...

This thread sums up everything that is wrong with the BSN.

.... bloody animals...

Why so toxic, Eterna?

[Ieldra]

yesikareyes wrote...
The right response to this thread is: Yes, let's just accept that everyone has their own canons and their own basis of what is right and wrong. There is no better ending objectively. It's all a matter of perspective. I've played through all three or four endings, and they aren't all perfect. Each has its own pros and cons. Forums should be a place where we discuss the intricacies of each ending, instead of calling each other names or contributing to a hateful and toxic aura.

QFT x 1000000

[Eterna]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

"What about me?" Said the wolf. "Why did I have to be changed?"



Yet synthesis even changes these creatures, making them hybrids. It changes all life.

And there is the crux of the problem isn't it? You fear change. You fear the unkown. 

[Eterna]

dreamgazer wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

This thread sums up everything that is wrong with the BSN.

.... bloody animals...

Why so toxic, Eterna?

I'm not being toxic, Im pointing out peoples behaviour. Some of the behaviour in this thread is so irrationa that it is animalistic in nature. 

[CosmicGnosis]

Auintus wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

As for the ME3 ending-- I'm uncertain why anyone should care which one I chose in that playthrough from almost a year ago. If someone needs my character's choice to lend theirs legitimacy... I'm not sure what that says about their own convictions, but it's not good.

I think the OP meant to say that if a reasonable individual can select Synthesis, it is clearly not the abomination that some claim it to be.

Yes, this was the intention.

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 02 avril 2013 - 07:56 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Ieldra2 wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...
The right response to this thread is: Yes, let's just accept that everyone has their own canons and their own basis of what is right and wrong. There is no better ending objectively. It's all a matter of perspective. I've played through all three or four endings, and they aren't all perfect. Each has its own pros and cons. Forums should be a place where we discuss the intricacies of each ending, instead of calling each other names or contributing to a hateful and toxic aura.

QFT x 1000000

The sad truth until I build my own crucible to destroy and control all the people who like the ending and synthesis.

There are no pros to synthesis. The whole ending is a Faustian Bargain.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 02 avril 2013 - 07:59 .

[ruggly]

Will it make you feel better if I post this sloth?



because baby sloths are effing adorable

[CDR David Shepard]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Auintus wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

As for the ME3 ending-- I'm uncertain why anyone should care which one I chose in that playthrough from almost a year ago. If someone needs my character's choice to lend theirs legitimacy... I'm not sure what that says about their own convictions, but it's not good.

I think the OP meant to say that if a reasonable individual can select Synthesis, it is clearly not the abomination that some claim it to be.

Yes, this was the intention.

That still means that the OP needed Gaider's character's choice to lend theirs legitimacy.

If they didn't...this thread wouldn't exist...or at least it would be titled "Can we just accept that every ending has shades of gray" without any mention of Gaider's choice.

Even then...the thread would still be about the OP lacking their own conviction and needing others to agree with their choice.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 02 avril 2013 - 08:04 .

[KENNY4753]

@Gaider

1. I was making a joke about others who accidently got to close and had forced synthesis.

2. I wasnt impling that you couldnt think for yourself. Maybe you misunderstood my post and maybe I am misunderstanding your response but either way I wasnt trying to speak for you. The way I read your response you sounded like a real d***.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

KENNY4753 wrote...

@Gaider

1. I was making a joke about others who accidently got to close and had forced synthesis.

2. I wasnt impling that you couldnt think for yourself. Maybe you misunderstood my post and maybe I am misunderstanding your response but either way I wasnt trying to speak for you. The way I read your response you sounded like a real d***.

Yup. The first one was me. I am not speaking hyperbole here: I still get angry just thinking about how that first playthrough ended.

[Eterna]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...
The right response to this thread is: Yes, let's just accept that everyone has their own canons and their own basis of what is right and wrong. There is no better ending objectively. It's all a matter of perspective. I've played through all three or four endings, and they aren't all perfect. Each has its own pros and cons. Forums should be a place where we discuss the intricacies of each ending, instead of calling each other names or contributing to a hateful and toxic aura.

QFT x 1000000

The sad truth until I build my own crucible to destroy and control all the people who like the ending and synthesis.

There are no pros to synthesis. The whole ending is a Faustian Bargain.

Wow, the utter arrogance. 

[Fawx9]

Eterna5 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

"What about me?" Said the wolf. "Why did I have to be changed?"



Yet synthesis even changes these creatures, making them hybrids. It changes all life.

And there is the crux of the problem isn't it? You fear change. You fear the unkown. 

Or it's that the galaxy isn't so broken that we feel the need to change it. 

Modifié par Fawx9, 02 avril 2013 - 08:03 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Eterna5 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...
The right response to this thread is: Yes, let's just accept that everyone has their own canons and their own basis of what is right and wrong. There is no better ending objectively. It's all a matter of perspective. I've played through all three or four endings, and they aren't all perfect. Each has its own pros and cons. Forums should be a place where we discuss the intricacies of each ending, instead of calling each other names or contributing to a hateful and toxic aura.

QFT x 1000000

The sad truth until I build my own crucible to destroy and control all the people who like the ending and synthesis.

There are no pros to synthesis. The whole ending is a Faustian Bargain.

Wow, the utter arrogance. 

From you, I give my thanks. 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

ruggly wrote...

Will it make you feel better if I post this sloth?



because baby sloths are effing adorable

Well, it helped me. The stupidity in this thread was getting in my head, but it's better now.

Cheers! 

[Mr.House]

[quote]sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Holy earth mother.  Twilight is Mass Effect 4 and you get to play David's waifu.  Proven by the above quote! [/quote]

You did it now. You forgot to put the [sarcasm] [/sarcasm]

This is the Internet. People take things way too seriously if you don't.

And I agree with him. If someone needs his character's choice to lend their's legitimacy... there is a problem with that person's convictions. I don't need Gaider's character's choice to lend mine legitimacy one bit. However, that's not what I was asking. I'm not going to flame him over it.

We joke, and jab, but as far as writing story content, Mac is no David Gaider. We've known that since DA:O. I still have hope for DA3 only because of David.

[/quote]Pretty much my feelings Julia.

[AresKeith]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...
The right response to this thread is: Yes, let's just accept that everyone has their own canons and their own basis of what is right and wrong. There is no better ending objectively. It's all a matter of perspective. I've played through all three or four endings, and they aren't all perfect. Each has its own pros and cons. Forums should be a place where we discuss the intricacies of each ending, instead of calling each other names or contributing to a hateful and toxic aura.

QFT x 1000000

The sad truth until I build my own crucible to destroy and control all the people who like the ending and synthesis.

There are no pros to synthesis. The whole ending is a Faustian Bargain.

Wow, the utter arrogance. 

From you, I give my thanks. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/kissing.png[/smilie]

From him it feels like a compliment lol

[CosmicGnosis]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Auintus wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

As for the ME3 ending-- I'm uncertain why anyone should care which one I chose in that playthrough from almost a year ago. If someone needs my character's choice to lend theirs legitimacy... I'm not sure what that says about their own convictions, but it's not good.

I think the OP meant to say that if a reasonable individual can select Synthesis, it is clearly not the abomination that some claim it to be.

Yes, this was the intention.

That still means that the OP needed Gaider's character's choice to lend theirs legitimacy.

If I want to combat the fanaticism of BSN, I need all the help I can get. Really, though, I just want people to consider other perspectives.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

KENNY4753 wrote...

I have to ask. Is anybody sure he didnt get synthesis by accident. Maybe he was just expolring the crucible and got too close to the beam forcing the synthesis cutscene but was so disgusted by the endings he couldnt bring himself to reload and choose destroy..

You know I've had friends accidently do this. This actually could have happened. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

It is pretty well known, at least from my own personal experience, that most end game boss fights, or in this case Charlie Foxtrot, come in the wee hours of the morning after several drinks. You've just gone through an hour of playing in a dark room in the dark of London, then had the "laser blast" from Harbinger, gone to the "conduit", confronted Marauder Shields in a disoriented state, then had the discussion with The Illusive Man. You're pretty wasted, and you just shot your character's father figure! Now if you've done a "self-insert" it's pretty bad. You're feeling like s***. Then Anderson dies. Then you collapse, and then WTF happens.

You meet "Child" who suddenly dictates to you the three choices from hell, and if you've had enough to drink and it's like 3:00 am you've probably already forgotten half of what he said, and just walked over to see what the hell was down there where that beam was and suddenly you started running toward it and jumped into it and boom the game was over. You'd chosen Synthesis!!!!!!!!

And you reload and it puts you way back at your last save game (1 hr out) or your autosave which is now where you're running down the ramp, or you get to restart the mission. So you say f*** this and put the game away and go to bed.

That is quite possibly what happened since three people on my friends list did exactly this.