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[Wolfva2]

Ummm...I hate to have to point this out...but errr.....Mass Effect? IT'S JUST A FREAKING GAME!!!!

Just thought I should point that out.

[Lenimph]

Taboo-XX wrote...

David Gaider also liked the romance in Twilight.

JUST SAYING.

This ^ 

[AtreiyaN7]

Bill Casey wrote...

Bull****...
It's ****ing deplorable...
David Gaider should be ashamed of himself...

It's the most evil ****ing thing I've seen in fiction...
My DNA is not your toy...

If I weren't already a proponent of Synthesis, posts like yours would have driven me to do it. Your viewpoint seems to be that anything you don't personally like or approve of (even if it doesn't affect your life in any way, shape, or form) is "evil." 

You know what's "evil"? Committing genocide is evil. Murdering people is evil. Kicking puppies and kittens is evil. Making me slave over hundreds of edits in a day is evil.

Saving as many lives as humanly possible? Well, after reading your piddling posts, it's clear to me that valuing all species equally and wanting to save everyone that I possibly could was, like, totally Satan-level evil!!!! Man, I'm so glad that you have enlightened me about what a terrible, horrible degenerate I am for having made a choice in a game that you disagree with!!!!!!! *sarcasm to the infinite power*

I chose Synthesis because I believed in part that it was evolutionary leap forward (with only some minor biochemical tweaking) that would ultimately benefit everyone and that there was nothing to fear in merging. Now I don't agree with Destroy or Refuse since they go against my principles, but I don't make it my life's mission to whinge about their choices in their games just because I disagree with those options. And I certainly don't go throwing the word "evil" around so lightly. *rolleyes*

In my eyes, anyone who displays a whit of humanity - including synthetic lifeforms such as EDI or Legion - is worth saving if I can do it without harming others, and clearly no one was harmed. I could have made the wrong call, sure - but I didn't (too bad for you!).

[Yestare7]

No, we don't agree on shades of grey.

We came here to destroy the Reapers, anything else is betrayal.

Hackett knows the score: "Dead Reapers is how we win this"
Anderson: "we destroy them, or they destroy us"
Ripley: "Tis the only way to be sure"



(doesn't mean you are a bad person, you just made a wrong choice!)

[New Display Name]

David Gaider chose wisley in both cases.

[Bill Casey]

Mr.House wrote...

No, he simply does not like an easy way out option, which is what peace is. Does Xen start to try control geth or betray the fleet for science? No. All the geth act like angles after peace ect.  Nothing bad happens AT all. The option should not be there, it's Redcliffe all over again and I can see why that does not appeal to gaider at all.

To be fair, there was a cut mission on the Citadel where Xen did try to control the geth and betrayed the fleet for science...

[Yestare7]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Saving as many lives as humanly possible? Well, after reading your piddling posts, it's clear to me that valuing all species equally and wanting to save everyone that I possibly could was, like, totally Satan-level evil!!!! Man, I'm so glad that you have enlightened me about what a terrible, horrible degenerate I am for having made a choice in a game that you disagree with!!!!!!! *sarcasm to the infinite power* 

Someone forgot their pills this morning.

[Zjarcal]

leonia42 wrote...

Does it really matter which ending anyone in particular likes?

Bill Casey wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
There may actually be something wrong with you.

I have severe depression from the ending...

Even a year later? LAWL

Modifié par Zjarcal, 02 avril 2013 - 07:27 .

[Mr.House]

Bill Casey wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

No, he simply does not like an easy way out option, which is what peace is. Does Xen start to try control geth or betray the fleet for science? No. All the geth act like angles after peace ect.  Nothing bad happens AT all. The option should not be there, it's Redcliffe all over again and I can see why that does not appeal to gaider at all.

To be fair, there was a cut mission on the Citadel where Xen did try to control the geth and betrayed the fleet for science...

Which should have happen. Peace should have had some negatives, it should not have been an easy way out. The fact that they did have plans for it and cut it makes it far worse, it didn't even make it to audio which means the idea was cut very very early. It's Redcliffe all over again in my eyes.

Modifié par Mr.House, 02 avril 2013 - 07:27 .

[Bill Casey]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

You know what's "evil"? Committing genocide is evil.

I know...
I'm a monster...
It was the least evil thing I could do without everyone dying...
And I'm dead inside for it. I hate myself...
I'm pretty much waiting to die...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 02 avril 2013 - 07:27 .

[Zjarcal]

Mr.House wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

No, he simply does not like an easy way out option, which is what peace is. Does Xen start to try control geth or betray the fleet for science? No. All the geth act like angles after peace ect.  Nothing bad happens AT all. The option should not be there, it's Redcliffe all over again and I can see why that does not appeal to gaider at all.

To be fair, there was a cut mission on the Citadel where Xen did try to control the geth and betrayed the fleet for science...

Which should have happen. Peace should have had some negatives, it should not have been an easy way out. The fact that they did have plans for it and cut it makes it far worse, it didn't even make it to audio which means the idea was cut very very early. It's Redcliffe all over again in my eyes.

Agreed.

Also, yeah, now I remember his comments about regretting the Redcliffe choice, which I totally agree with. I've always hated that option being there with zero negatives involved. At least with the Geth/Quarians thing you can argue the ending choices can sort of balance it out in a way.

P.S.: Bill Casey's posts are comedy gold and sig worthy.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 02 avril 2013 - 07:33 .

[Zazzerka]

Zjarcal wrote...

Even a year later? LAWL

lololol depression is funnay huh?

[Bill Casey]

Yeah, it's real ****ing funny...

[Zjarcal]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Even a year later? LAWL

lololol depression is funnay huh?

The idea that someone would be depressed over a goddamn story ending for a whole year is hilarious and pathetic (assuming he ain't just trolling, which he probably is).

[Zazzerka]

Zjarcal wrote...

The idea that someone would be depressed over a goddamn story ending for a whole year is hilarious and pathetic (assuming he ain't just trolling, which he probably is).

Real-world problems could be exacerbating the issue. You never know. I just think it's a good rule of thumb to not laugh at people when they say they're depressed, just in case.

[Lenimph]

GT Zazzerka wrote...


Real-world problems could be exacerbating the issue. You never know. I just think it's a good rule of thumb to not laugh at people when they say they're depressed, just in case.

Oh please there's a clear cut difference from being depressed from actual stressful situations and those spawning from being a spoiled brat. 

[Costin_Razvan]

In my eyes, anyone who displays a whit of humanity - including synthetic lifeforms such as EDI or Legion - is worth saving if I can do it without harming others, and clearly no one was harmed. I could have made the wrong call, sure - but I didn't (too bad for you!).

Sure that's why there's control.

I find it hilarious that Gaider would pick synthesis, which is considered the perfect option, while at the same time complaining about the peace deal on Rannoch.

[Eterna]

Bill Casey wrote...

Yeah, it's real ****ing funny...

You like, actually need help. 

[HolyAvenger]

Here's a thought. Multiple playthroughs, multiple endings...

[Peranor]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Even a year later? LAWL

lololol depression is funnay huh?

Remember kids, It's ok to mock someone for having a depression. But god help you if you have the gall to criticize a video game!

[Eterna]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

In my eyes, anyone who displays a whit of humanity - including synthetic lifeforms such as EDI or Legion - is worth saving if I can do it without harming others, and clearly no one was harmed. I could have made the wrong call, sure - but I didn't (too bad for you!).

Sure that's why there's control.

I find it hilarious that Gaider would pick synthesis, which is considered the perfect option, while at the same time complaining about the peace deal on Rannoch.

Synthesis isn't just about peace, it is also about advancement and change, it is also about eliminating all threat of the technological singulairty. 

[Mr.House]

Eterna5 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

In my eyes, anyone who displays a whit of humanity - including synthetic lifeforms such as EDI or Legion - is worth saving if I can do it without harming others, and clearly no one was harmed. I could have made the wrong call, sure - but I didn't (too bad for you!).

Sure that's why there's control.

I find it hilarious that Gaider would pick synthesis, which is considered the perfect option, while at the same time complaining about the peace deal on Rannoch.

Synthesis isn't just about peace, it is also about advancement and change, it is also about eliminating all threat of the technological singulairty. 

How does it stop technological singularity? What is stopping the Reapers from deciding to kill everyone?

Modifié par Mr.House, 02 avril 2013 - 07:51 .

[Eterna]

Mr.House wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

In my eyes, anyone who displays a whit of humanity - including synthetic lifeforms such as EDI or Legion - is worth saving if I can do it without harming others, and clearly no one was harmed. I could have made the wrong call, sure - but I didn't (too bad for you!).

Sure that's why there's control.

I find it hilarious that Gaider would pick synthesis, which is considered the perfect option, while at the same time complaining about the peace deal on Rannoch.

Synthesis isn't just about peace, it is also about advancement and change, it is also about eliminating all threat of the technological singulairty. 

How does it stop technological singularity? What is stopping the Reapers from deciding to kill everyone?

Organic life is perfected by being intergrated with technology. They no longer need to fear dying to their creations because they are now on equal footing with their creations. The Reapers don't need to Harvest anymore because organics are no longer a danger to themselves and all organic life. 

[Mr.House]

Eterna5 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

In my eyes, anyone who displays a whit of humanity - including synthetic lifeforms such as EDI or Legion - is worth saving if I can do it without harming others, and clearly no one was harmed. I could have made the wrong call, sure - but I didn't (too bad for you!).

Sure that's why there's control.

I find it hilarious that Gaider would pick synthesis, which is considered the perfect option, while at the same time complaining about the peace deal on Rannoch.

Synthesis isn't just about peace, it is also about advancement and change, it is also about eliminating all threat of the technological singulairty. 

How does it stop technological singularity? What is stopping the Reapers from deciding to kill everyone?

Organic life is perfected by being intergrated with technology. They no longer need to fear dying to their creations because they are now on equal footing with their creations. The Reapers don't need to Harvest anymore because organics are no longer a danger to themselves and all organic life. 

So mind control.

[Eterna]

Mr.House wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

In my eyes, anyone who displays a whit of humanity - including synthetic lifeforms such as EDI or Legion - is worth saving if I can do it without harming others, and clearly no one was harmed. I could have made the wrong call, sure - but I didn't (too bad for you!).

Sure that's why there's control.

I find it hilarious that Gaider would pick synthesis, which is considered the perfect option, while at the same time complaining about the peace deal on Rannoch.

Synthesis isn't just about peace, it is also about advancement and change, it is also about eliminating all threat of the technological singulairty. 

How does it stop technological singularity? What is stopping the Reapers from deciding to kill everyone?

Organic life is perfected by being intergrated with technology. They no longer need to fear dying to their creations because they are now on equal footing with their creations. The Reapers don't need to Harvest anymore because organics are no longer a danger to themselves and all organic life. 

So mind control.

No? Where did I imply mind control at all?