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[Dendio1]

iakus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...
My DNA is not your toy...

I need to remember this one...

Everyones played around with shep dna. From miranda to liara to TIM. Even clone shep had a taste

[NeonFlux117]

One of my old toenails chose synthesis, created a twitter account and twittered about it's choice.

[Argolas]

Dendio1 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...
My DNA is not your toy...

I need to remember this one...

Everyones played around with shep dna. From miranda to liara to TIM. Even clone shep had a taste

I don't think Miranda changed Shepard's DNA, that sounds like it was against the orders. But what have TIM or Liara done in your opinion? TIM just gave the order and resources for Lazarus, Liara only salvaged the body.

[Suron]

Argolas wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...
My DNA is not your toy...

I need to remember this one...

Everyones played around with shep dna. From miranda to liara to TIM. Even clone shep had a taste

I don't think Miranda changed Shepard's DNA, that sounds like it was against the orders. But what have TIM or Liara done in your opinion? TIM just gave the order and resources for Lazarus, Liara only salvaged the body.

learn comprehension and reading.  He didn't say "changed" he said "played with"...two COMPLETELY different things.

technically if I pull a hair off of your head I'm "playing" with your DNA..hell brushing up against you could be interpreted as "playing" with your DNA..since your DNA get's on just about anything you touch.

TIM is the only one on that list we're not sure ever touched shepard..so maybe TIM hasn't "played" with his DNA...but the rest on that list...yep.

[spirosz]

dreamgazer wrote...

 Hearing about Gaider's choice effectively has zero impact on my overarching feelings on the matter.

[Helios969]

anorling wrote...


Can't we just agree that all endings are idiotic in their own way?

As Ryzaki said. Even the actions to even pick all those options is pretty facepalm worthy in itself. And that is just the start of it.

^This times hundred.

I'm a pro-destroyer, but one of the things I find incredibly contradictory are those who despise synthesis cause of the freewill issue then rip apart anyone who makes a choice counter to their belief.  In the end it's just a RP videogame with no real world consequences.

[Suron]

And to the topic.

Why does what Gaider chose mean anything? The man has fallen far. I remember when he was a cool dude..had that little website with all those BG bug fixes...the tweaks and balancing he did on his own time to bosses and whatnot.

then he turned just like the rest of em...And he's one of the worst. Talks down to fans, holier-than-thou attitude...his outlook is the only "right" one...go back to a lot of his comments towards fans and criticism to DA:O and especially DA2.

He's the poster child to how far BioWare has fallen...from a great person that did things on his own time to tweak a game he loved and spent a lot of time with...to the stereotypical BioWare employee...criticize an idea or a direction something takes...you "don't get it" you're "toxic" or "whiney" holier-than-thou

So, again, why should anyone care what he chose as his ending? and how does it mean anything?

I chose Control my first time because I didn't want to destroy the Geth and EDI...or it woulda been Destroy hands down...guess what..my choice is just as meaningful as his.

[Slayer299]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Gaider chose synthesis even with the Geth dead?? :facepalm:

Maybe he was confused by the endings, or was enamored with the idea of making this




part machine? Synthesis -- it isn't just about advanced organics and synthetics.

^ This +10000. 

People do not seem to get that concept at all about the far-reaching implications on *all* life. 

[Reorte]

Helios969 wrote...

I'm a pro-destroyer, but one of the things I find incredibly contradictory are those who despise synthesis cause of the freewill issue then rip apart anyone who makes a choice counter to their belief.

Really? Nothing contradictory there when you think about it, and it's more than simple belief (which seems to require sticking with a point of view for the hell of it).

In the end it's just a RP videogame with no real world consequences.

Which is why we're discussing it on a board about that game. Besides, most opinions people hold have no real world consequences because they're rarely able to do much about them.

[spirosz]

Seriously though, who cares? If that ending works for him, by all means, embrace it. Not going to change how I view the way it was executed, but that doesn't make him any worse or better than me because I choose Destroy.

[Auintus]

Bill Casey wrote...
My DNA is not your toy...

I take it you didn't cure the genophage, then.

[AllThatJazz]

SilentK wrote...

Just a little note on David Gaider and the twilight-stuff a couple of people are saying. Remember now that he writes our characters, they sometimes have romances. If you are stating something then provide links to it. I get the impression that he finds it interesting to see what makes people tick.

David Gaider wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
You have a talent for writing romances that tear the reader's/player's heart out. It would be wrong for such abilities to go to waste and I encourage whatever sadistic elements you might think of in love interests you write. Morrigan leaving no matter what the PC said or did was perfect.

Well, I think Twilight is far more effective with its romantic elements than most people give it credit for. Granted, it has little else going for it-- but the romance it does well. I find it a fascinating exercise to analyze exactly why that is (which I do for many romances... thankfully Cori is a giant romance movie buff).

Just, you know, don't write any of the F/F romances.

I think I could swing it, if I needed to. You like another chick because she's more like a man, right? She can fix your car and stuff? I get it, I get it. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

David Gaider wrote...

MarginalBeast wrote...
Really? Many people feel that the romance in Twilight is incredibly unrealistic and/or creepy and/or unhealthy, and I tend to agree with them.

I doubt there's a romance that's ever going to be universally appealing--and while I don't find the romance in Twilight personally appealing it'd be silly to dismiss outright the fact that it has great appeal to some, and perhaps a little elitist to dismiss those who find it appealing as simple-minded. In the context of the books, Bella is designed as a character meant to be projected onto... but if one isn't willing/able to project themselves onto her they're never really going to get it.

The same could be said for, say, Alistair. For those who don't like him they'll never get those who do, and they can pretty easily deconstruct both his character and his romance if they want to.

Either way, I think the romance itself has some interesting elements in its construction and offers something to learn-- for those who are willing to try. And I've tried, God help me. This is what I do for you people. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Linky to quotes

Thanks for this, SilentK. When people in this thread started going on about DG liking the Twilight romance, I was sure I'd read otherwise somewhere, but I was too lazy to look!

What is it with BSN and latching on to small things and then exaggerating them/ taking them completely out of context? Why am I even asking this question? The answer is clearly Because Raisins.

Anyhow, why does it even matter? Guy's just another player whose particular Shepard made a particular choice. A dumb choice, I grant you, but all the choices have a bit of the dumb thing going on imo, so it isn't as though he was awash with fabulous ending scenarios ...

[CDR David Shepard]

OP - Can you just accept the fact that people will have their own opinion on different things...and select the ending you think is best because you think it's best.

I do not need anyone else's approval to select the ending which I think is best.

Anyways...I would rather die than be turned into what Synthesis turns everyone into.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 02 avril 2013 - 01:22 .

[M Hedonist]

iakus wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Does it really matter which ending anyone in particular likes?

As I said earlier:


As long as he doesn't decide to optimal solution to solve the mage-templar conflict is to forcibly turn everyone on Thedas into abominations, does his preference in ME3 really matter?

Heh. I'm calling it now, the way to solve the conflict is to turn everyone into mages...
"One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were." - Sandal

Modifié par Sauruz, 02 avril 2013 - 01:16 .

[Iakus]

anorling wrote...


Can't we just agree that all endings are idiotic in their own way?
As Ryzaki said. Even the actions to even pick all those options is pretty facepalm worthy in itself. And that is just the start of it.

Agreed

[spirosz]

He likes the Twilight romances? Ouch.

[Iakus]

dorktainian wrote...

Has anyone ever thought that the endings to mass effect 3 could be the equivelant of star treks 'kobyashi maru' test - so as to not find out the correct solution, but how you react when you find out there is no solution enabling us to win? A no-win scenario designed to test potential N7's / Spectres / insert class here?

I installed MEHEM.  I don't believe in no-win scenerios.

Does that make me Kirk? 

[Getorex]

iakus wrote...

anorling wrote...


Can't we just agree that all endings are idiotic in their own way?
As Ryzaki said. Even the actions to even pick all those options is pretty facepalm worthy in itself. And that is just the start of it.

Agreed

How can you say this!  EVERYONE would build a suicide death killing thingy so that to choose synthesis or control you simply pick a color but if you want to destroy then, well, you don't pick a color, push a button, wave your hand at a gesture recognition interface, etc, no.  You pull your sidearm and have to shoot a red tube up.  You also have to approach it as you shoot it.  EVERYONE approaches an exploding, fiery device they are shooting in order to activate it.  This is basic user interface design people! 

Sheesh.

[ruggly]

10,000 YEARS POST-DESTROY AND ORGANICS ARE STILL ALIVE, OH NOOOOOOOO! MAYBE THERE COULD BE PEACE BETWEEN NEW SYNTHETICS AND ORGANICS IN MY HEADCANON, OH NOOOOOOO! PERHAPS THEY COULD BE GOING FOR SYNTHESIS AS WELL, OH NOOOOOOOO!

Anyways, I really, reheheally don't care.

[Getorex]

iakus wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Has anyone ever thought that the endings to mass effect 3 could be the equivelant of star treks 'kobyashi maru' test - so as to not find out the correct solution, but how you react when you find out there is no solution enabling us to win? A no-win scenario designed to test potential N7's / Spectres / insert class here?

I installed MEHEM.  I don't believe in no-win scenerios.

Does that make me Kirk? 

There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with Kirk.  No need to fear emulating Kirk!

[Fawx9]

I'll say what I always have about Synthesis. It hits way to close at themes and ideas that have played out in our own past and have had terrible consequences.

It's almost remarkable that they never realized what they were writing.

[S.A.K]

Well atleast he saved the Quarians...

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Synthesis is 'high level'.

Mac Walters said so himself.

All you destroyers are just incompetent boobs.

[Seboist]

Synthesis is mind bogglingly moronic but expected coming from the same people who gave us giant baby arnold, lazarus,derpcibleand clockwork oranged autist.