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[Gunboat Diplomat]

MisterGunfighter wrote...

Tricky D 92 wrote...

 or a high leveled Geth Juggernaut as that's just easy mode

There could be other reasons as well, such as team synergy and how the characters compliment or complete against each other (priming/detonating, sharing grenades, etc)

Juggernaut example: If there are already 2 well equipped Juggernauts in the lobby, the 3rd weakest Juggernaut may be asked to change characters because 2 Juggernauts is more than enough (I'm interested to hear others' thoughts on this one).

I think one Juggernaut per team is more than enough

[Megamen502]

MisterGunfighter wrote...

Tricky D 92 wrote...

 or a high leveled Geth Juggernaut as that's just easy mode

There could be other reasons as well, such as team synergy and how the characters compliment or complete against each other (priming/detonating, sharing grenades, etc)

Juggernaut example: If there are already 2 well equipped Juggernauts in the lobby, the 3rd weakest Juggernaut may be asked to change characters because 2 Juggernauts is more than enough (I'm interested to hear others' thoughts on this one).

I don't know about you but in most lobbies i join no one has a mic and speaks english at the same time and i bet that if people don't like your class they'll just kick you and wait for another person to join with a different one.

[phiorala]

If you see just one kick vote and you have a mic on, usually I will withdraw my kick vote if you just let the rest of the lobby know you can handle yourself and you know what difficulty this is.

Using the Juggernaut is a bit better since people tend to not kick (even if the player is still new, the Jugg will survive most things), but they probably shouldn't say anything about a level 20 AA with Paladin.

[Megamen502]

phiorala wrote...

If you see just one kick vote and you have a mic on, usually I will withdraw my kick vote if you just let the rest of the lobby know you can handle yourself and you know what difficulty this is.

Using the Juggernaut is a bit better since people tend to not kick (even if the player is still new, the Jugg will survive most things), but they probably shouldn't say anything about a level 20 AA with Paladin.

I agree but i'd stick with the juggernaut if i were you ... People kick a lot faster AA than a class with good survival

[BL00DTHORNz]

I'll play matches with you. GT same as BSN name.

[DaveT]

Tricky D 92 wrote...

gold and I get booted from probably 1 out of every 3 or 4 games

As other have noted, the problem is your loadout, not your N7 rating.  I have been playing off and on since November and have an N7 rating of 1066 now.  But I still am playing Silver at best, and won't venture into Gold games.

But if you are determined, you could try hosting.  If you can survive a round or two alone, then people will show up in your game automatically.

But honestly, you should be able to solo Bronze games and top the scoreboard in Silver games before venturing into Gold.  The ramp up between levels is pretty steep.

[DaveT]

Tricky D 92 wrote...

Dala Kaar wrote...

If I'm kicking you from a gold I'm judging you based on a variety of factors, least of which is your N7 score.

What level character did you bring?
What class?
What weapons?
Any equipment?

I see, I didn't think of this as the reason

If I am in Gold I'm usually using a Level 20 Asari Adept with a Phalanx 1/Paladin 1 or a high leveled Geth Juggernaut as that's just easy mode

Uhm, tell that the the Juggernauts that I end up reviving in my games.  But then I can't survive a single bronze wave solo with my level 20 AA, so maybe I'm not the best judge.

[tetsutsuru]

I'd be more than happy to help you get started, however I'm on PC. Sorry, couldn't help you there.

It's a good thing that you posted in here. There are good folks on Xbox who can help you out.

[CapitateGoose]

I just started an N7 1 new player, and after an initial kick in a platinum game, I got 4 gold PUGs without a single kick.
Surprising - I was going to see how many kicks I get before joining.

Also, it went relatively well: I brought my contribution and 2 games were full extractions.

[Amusingthree93]

Play bronze. Seriously.

Beating single player on insanity will not even make you qualified for silver. You have to start from the bottom.

[Cassandra Saturn]

Amusingthree93 wrote...

Play bronze. Seriously.

Beating single player on insanity will not even make you qualified for silver. You have to start from the bottom.

look who is being mean to our new player.
seriously, you need to give this player a break.

sometimes new players like this one wants to go for gold, but that's no problem.
I don't kick anyone regardless of their N7 level or gear level, weapon level etc.

[Beerfish]

I don't kick myself but I would leave the lobby you are in if you do not have good guns to go along with that poor N7, do you ALWAYS equip consumables? As for giving a low N7 with poor gear and not equipping things a chance....I've given a lot of chances to these players and they suck 90% of the times.

Pay your dues and play bronze and silver.

[HoochieHamiltoe]

Cassandra Saturn wrote...

Amusingthree93 wrote...

Play bronze. Seriously.

Beating single player on insanity will not even make you qualified for silver. You have to start from the bottom.

look who is being mean to our new player.
seriously, you need to give this player a break.

sometimes new players like this one wants to go for gold, but that's no problem.
I don't kick anyone regardless of their N7 level or gear level, weapon level etc.

He should start on Bronze. That is where you get an understanding for how multiplayer works. 

Recommending new players to try Gold is wrong.

[Amusingthree93]

Cassandra Saturn wrote...

Amusingthree93 wrote...

Play bronze. Seriously.

Beating single player on insanity will not even make you qualified for silver. You have to start from the bottom.

look who is being mean to our new player.
seriously, you need to give this player a break.

sometimes new players like this one wants to go for gold, but that's no problem.
I don't kick anyone regardless of their N7 level or gear level, weapon level etc.

Actually I wasnt being mean. I am sorry if I seem to come across as such. All I am saying is, being N7 80+ indicates to other players that he hasnt even seen all the maps fully.  He should get a high enough N7 rating where people wont have a good reason to kick him on gold.

[RamsenC]

Trying a class other than Asari Adept may help. If there were more biotic death squads it would be more enticing, but a decent pistol, self explosions, and stasis is not that potent in the eyes of randoms. Just pick something with the Flamer and you should never get kicked, although some people hate the blinding flames

[Cassandra Saturn]

Hooch, it's only himself/herself to try a difficulty that's much higher than bronze, by all means he/she can go for it to try it out. that's all on him/her. not us to recommending that said person to try a difficulty. that's what i'm trying to say..

[Froswald]

 I'm a miser when it comes to levels so I never promote unless I get the urge, but probably half my ME3 playtime is MP now. Strange, as I am not a big fan of MP games but slap some geth and quarians in and I love it

[Cassandra Saturn]

Amusingthree93 wrote...

Cassandra Saturn wrote...

Amusingthree93 wrote...

Play bronze. Seriously.

Beating single player on insanity will not even make you qualified for silver. You have to start from the bottom.

look who is being mean to our new player.
seriously, you need to give this player a break.

sometimes new players like this one wants to go for gold, but that's no problem.
I don't kick anyone regardless of their N7 level or gear level, weapon level etc.

Actually I wasnt being mean. I am sorry if I seem to come across as such. All I am saying is, being N7 80+ indicates to other players that he hasnt even seen all the maps fully.  He should get a high enough N7 rating where people wont have a good reason to kick him on gold.

ah I see. it was easily misunderstood that you seemed mean, but no worries.

[Amusingthree93]

Cassandra Saturn wrote...

I don't kick anyone regardless of their N7 level or gear level, weapon level etc.

Even if they are an N7 38  Juggernaut who doesnt even know that their heavy melee recharges their shields and they die five times a wave, each wave? (yes, I had such a player in the lobby today)

[codsquallic]

I usually back out of Gold and Plat, if people are under N7 120, because it is worse than soloing. Of course if one other person looks good, then I'll go. It does take time to figure out different elements of the game. Bronze can be annoying at times, but jumping into Gold seems a bit premature.

[Tricky D 92]

I'm not really jumping in, maybe my title is misleading

I played a little bit of MP just after the game was released, you know when the Quarian with Sabotage was being spammed by everyone and the human vanguard would spam charge then nova on everything.

I've just not played since all the new classes and weapons have been introduced. I'm by no means a great player but i'm not bronze level

I just solo'd silver with my Geth Jug (not saying that's a huge achievement but just implying that I'm not a bronze player)

[Dunvi]

HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

Cassandra Saturn wrote...

Amusingthree93 wrote...

Play bronze. Seriously.

Beating single player on insanity will not even make you qualified for silver. You have to start from the bottom.

look who is being mean to our new player.
seriously, you need to give this player a break.

sometimes new players like this one wants to go for gold, but that's no problem.
I don't kick anyone regardless of their N7 level or gear level, weapon level etc.

He should start on Bronze. That is where you get an understanding for how multiplayer works. 

Recommending new players to try Gold is wrong.

superblaze1 is the scrubbiest and the leechiest of the scrubby leeches. of course s/he suggests that it's okay to play at high levels when you can't pull your own weight.

To the OP: I don't mean to imply that you might not be ready for a higher difficulty already. If you know what you're doing and you pick good loadouts you can pull your own weight despite a minimal maxifest. I don't particularly like the AA and find her fairly underpowered (I strongly prefer the HA for a bad-weapon build), but for a player with low-quality weapons it's a fine choice, and similarly I don't like Juggies period (especially for trying higher difficulties because it trivializes the tactics and requirements to succeed at said difficulty with any other class), but if you know what you're doing it's reasonable.

That said, the vast majority of players are not capable of really pulling their weight on gold with low quality manifests and less than maybe 100-200 hours experience. You might judge success by extraction, but many of us vets consider extraction a given and success is judged more by whether we had fun - and newsflash, carrying players who deal <20k damage (remember you get between 10-20k for completing the game) and go down twice a wave isn't fun.

I am willing to believe that you might be capable of pulling your weight, I just am warning you that most at your experience level are not and that is why you are getting kicked.

And depending on how I am feeling and whether I have friends in the lobby to help carry you, I would probably kick you. A level I Paladin is a piece of crap, a Phalanx I is worse, AA isn't a good enough caster in gold to survive without a high levelled caster weapon, and Juggies ****** me off like crazy.

[Taritu]

Yeah, I might kick you. N7 95 means you haven't even leveled every character class to 20 once, you can't have good weapons, gear, and probably don't use equipment. Perhaps you are a GOD of MP and can contribute at that level, but most people can't and have to be carried. Most people w/your N7 can't even make a Juggernaut work properly.

Again, you may be the exception, but I have a TON of experience with low N7s with lousy manifests and most of them suck.  Sometimes I don't mind carrying, but sometimes I do, and I assume I'm going to be carrying.

Not sure what's wrong with bronze and silver for new players unless you're really find them too easy.  Me, I didn't play Gold for the first 4 months I played

Modifié par Taritu, 02 avril 2013 - 10:14 .

[Tricky D 92]

Dunvi wrote...

To the OP: I don't mean to imply that you might not be ready for a higher difficulty already. If you know what you're doing and you pick good loadouts you can pull your own weight despite a minimal maxifest. I don't particularly like the AA and find her fairly underpowered (I strongly prefer the HA for a bad-weapon build), but for a player with low-quality weapons it's a fine choice, and similarly I don't like Juggies period (especially for trying higher difficulties because it trivializes the tactics and requirements to succeed at said difficulty with any other class), but if you know what you're doing it's reasonable.

That said, the vast majority of players are not capable of really pulling their weight on gold with low quality manifests and less than maybe 100-200 hours experience. You might judge success by extraction, but many of us vets consider extraction a given and success is judged more by whether we had fun - and newsflash, carrying players who deal <20k damage (remember you get between 10-20k for completing the game) and go down twice a wave isn't fun.

I am willing to believe that you might be capable of pulling your weight, I just am warning you that most at your experience level are not and that is why you are getting kicked.

And depending on how I am feeling and whether I have friends in the lobby to help carry you, I would probably kick you. A level I Paladin is a piece of crap, a Phalanx I is worse, AA isn't a good enough caster in gold to survive without a high levelled caster weapon, and Juggies ****** me off like crazy.

Thanks man, I will take what you have said on board.

Could you recommend any classes/weapons I should be looking to aquire for a good Gold build?