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[Seival]

...Yes, this is that simple.

While the process isn't over yet, evolution demands changes. Evolution demands saying farewell to old ways.

If you don't wanna be changed, if you don't wanna change others, if you don't have desire to shape the world around you, then you are dead-end and will become extinct eventually. And the ones who always look forward, who's mind is opened to changes and innovations - will prevail.

This is the way the universe works.

[sveners]

Evolution is natural. Synthesis is everything but.

Still, I see your point.

[Revthejedi]

What in the heck are you talking about?

[Spartas Husky]

ANd if you have reached the end of your journey move aside so others with bigger brains can move ahead of you.

[KiwiQuiche]

Synthesis is such weird, creepy crap and this is coming from an Oddworld fan.

[Ecrulis]

Seival wrote...

...Yes, this is that simple.

While the process isn't over yet, evolution demands changes. Evolution demands saying farewell to old ways.

If you don't wanna be changed, if you don't wanna change others, if you don't have desire to shape the world around you, then you are dead-end and will become extinct eventually. And the ones who always look forward, who's mind is opened to changes and innovations - will prevail.

This is the way the universe works.

And evolution is not a process forced upon an entire galaxy by one man/woman with a god-complex

[KENNY4753]

Synthesis is not the final evolution of life. Everything adapts to things different and everything evolves overtime. There is no final evolution. That would mean being perfect and perfecting every living thing is impossible

[Seival]

Spartas Husky wrote...

ANd if you have reached the end of your journey move aside so others with bigger brains can move ahead of you.

Indeed.

[Ecrulis]

not to mention "final evolution" makes no sense, evolution does not work that way, and is not as conformed and generalized as synthesis, as said above, evolution is natural, synthesis is anything but.

[AresKeith]

*sees another weird Seival thread*

I disagree

[Revthejedi]

Synthesis makes no sense. If it weren't an option at the end no one would think "hey I wish we could just merge synthetics and organics together to solve all the galaxies problems".

Mass Effect 4 can be about synthorganics fighting synthorganics. Yay.

Seival's posts are routinely filled with opinions with no logical reasoning to support them. 

Modifié par Revthejedi, 02 avril 2013 - 08:39 .

[Seival]

Ecrulis wrote...

not to mention "final evolution" makes no sense, evolution does not work that way, and is not as conformed and generalized as synthesis, as said above, evolution is natural, synthesis is anything but.

"Natural" and "unnatural" are just subjective terms. They only show someone's attitude towards something.

[Maganese]

The Reapers have been around for millions of years. And their cycle is limiting the way that life evolves, they themselves do this for their own convenience so their work is much easier. So the way I see it, if the Reapers are destroyed then life in galaxy can evolve further in a much more natural way. Maybe even reaching the stage of synthesis in the future if the Catalyst is to be believed.

Life should be allowed to evolve naturaly. A single intelligence shouldn't be the one pulling the strings.

Modifié par Maganese, 02 avril 2013 - 08:44 .

[Spartas Husky]

if is green, glowing and related to goo... dont touch it, it never ends well regardless of the game. Last gooish thing I remember is the FEV from Fallout. Not good, your penis/boobs fall off. Nasty stuff.

Stay away from anything green/goo

[in it for the lolz]

Looks like Seival is on one of it's mad rants again....

[Eterna]

I actually disagree. The endings aren't really about evolution or advancement, Synthesis just carries that perk. The endings are about your stance on the technological singularity.

Destroy is the outright refusal of the technological singularities existence. You choose it hoping that it doesn't exist and organics will be able to care for themselves without intervention.

Control is agreeing that organics should be policed and protected from themselves but not under the same principles that the Catalyst used.

Synthesis is advancing organics to a point where they no longer need to fear being undone by their own creations because they will always be on the same level as their creations.

[Ecrulis]

Seival wrote...

Ecrulis wrote...

not to mention "final evolution" makes no sense, evolution does not work that way, and is not as conformed and generalized as synthesis, as said above, evolution is natural, synthesis is anything but.

"Natural" and "unnatural" are just subjective terms. They only show someone's attitude towards something.

No, no they are not; one man pushing a green space magic button forcing uniform genetic change on an entire galaxy is unnatural, a species mutating and evolving in order to adapt to a change in their environment is natural.

[thedancingdruid]

Because "Uplifting" species before they are ready has worked out so well in MEU in the past, uh, no thanks, SHOOT THE TUBE FTW!

[Seival]

Ecrulis wrote...

Seival wrote...

Ecrulis wrote...

not to mention "final evolution" makes no sense, evolution does not work that way, and is not as conformed and generalized as synthesis, as said above, evolution is natural, synthesis is anything but.

"Natural" and "unnatural" are just subjective terms. They only show someone's attitude towards something.

No, no they are not; one man pushing a green space magic button forcing uniform genetic change on an entire galaxy is unnatural, a species mutating and evolving in order to adapt to a change in their environment is natural.

And this is also just a subjective point of view. You could just say that you don't like Synthesis - shorter and the same meaning of what you wanted to say.

[Ecrulis]

dafangirl wrote...

Because "Uplifting" species before they are ready has worked out so well in MEU in the past, uh, no thanks, SHOOT THE TUBE FTW!

Also this, Synthesis has WAY more in common with the practice of Uplifitng species than evolution.

[Seival]

Eterna5 wrote...

I actually disagree. The endings aren't really about evolution or advancement, Synthesis just carries that perk. The endings are about your stance on the technological singularity.

Destroy is the outright refusal of the technological singularities existence. You choose it hoping that it doesn't exist and organics will be able to care for themselves without intervention.

Control is agreeing that organics should be policed and protected from themselves but not under the same principles that the Catalyst used.

Synthesis is advancing organics to a point where they no longer need to fear being undone by their own creations because they will always be on the same level as their creations.

Well, personally I see the endings and the trilogy in general as a huge philosophical thinking about evolution and advancement.

[Yestare7]

 
Hahahahaha :lol:


In Synthesis your letting three big bad things happen: 
1. Reapers Survive
2. Shepard is dead
3) Play God and alter all genetic code of species of galaxy 

more:

1. Synthesis is the Starbrat's favorite. And therefore proly wrong.(everything else he did over the past 50 billion years has been wrong.... see a trend there?)
2. Over the course of 3 games, my Shepard has been hellbent on DESTROYING the Reapers,why change my mind at the last second? 

more:

Hackett knows the score: "Dead Reapers is how we win this"
Anderson: "we destroy them, or they destroy us"
Ripley: "Tis the only way to be sure"

*Anyways, thanks for tonight's entertainment!!!:kissing:

Modifié par Yestare7, 02 avril 2013 - 08:53 .

[Big I]

I don't care that Synthesis makes people cyborgs. I care that it makes them cyborgs against their will. Control FTW.


Also, how can the artifical inclusion of something that cannot occur naturally (cyborg implants) into the biology of everything possibly constitute evolution? It seems to fall outside the paradigm.

[Ledgend1221]

Seival is insane.

Yes, it is that simple.

[Reorte]

Evolution and change are all about adapting to the environment as that changes. The OP tries to make it sound as if change is something desirable in its own right, which it is not.

Also evolution doesn't demand anything, it just happens. It is certainly not change for the sake of change.