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[Astartes Marine]

Eterna5 wrote...
Destroy is the outright refusal of the technological singularities existence. You choose it hoping that it doesn't exist and organics will be able to care for themselves without intervention.

I look at it as not outright denial, but leaving it in the hands of those who've survived the Reaper conflict with lessons learned and experience gained to build a hopeful future.  Unlike Control and Synthesis, we can achieve it on our own terms and at our own pace.  We will earn everything through perseverance and hard work rather than simply have it "given" to us.

"Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the Old Machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."
~~Legion, Mass Effect 2~~

[MassivelyEffective0730]

yesikareyes wrote...
I respect everyone else's choices, but this is exactly how I feel about Synthesis. 

How ironic...

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Here is why Synthesis is crap.

http://social.biowar...9404/4#16076107

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 03 avril 2013 - 03:05 .

[Auld Wulf]

Yay, more hatred and vitriol aimed at Synthesis. This doesn't do anything other than make non-Synthesis fans look like sub-human troglodytes, you realise?

Oh for intelligent discussion...

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Yay, more hatred and vitriol aimed at Synthesis. This doesn't do anything other than make non-Synthesis fans look like sub-human troglodytes, you realise?

Oh for intelligent discussion...

You are a troll. Reported.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Yay, more hatred and vitriol aimed at Synthesis. This doesn't do anything other than make non-Synthesis fans look like sub-human troglodytes, you realise?

Oh for intelligent discussion...

So anyone who doesn't concur with you is sub-human? That's a very insulting term. I am genuinely offended by this statement.

You preach open mindedness, yet you also say that people can only be open minded if they think the same as you.

Someone doesn't like synthesis and has problems with it? You call them luddites and troglodytes. And sub-humans.

You aren't even making any real defense for synthesis, just making ad hominems towards people who don't agree with you.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 03 avril 2013 - 03:13 .

[Asharad Hett]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Yay, more hatred and vitriol aimed at Synthesis. This doesn't do anything other than make non-Synthesis fans look like sub-human troglodytes, you realise?

Oh for intelligent discussion...

I abhore Synthesis.  Therefore I am a Troglodyte.

[Ticonderoga117]

Seival wrote...

...Yes, this is that simple.

While the process isn't over yet, evolution demands changes. Evolution demands saying farewell to old ways.

If you don't wanna be changed, if you don't wanna change others, if you don't have desire to shape the world around you, then you are dead-end and will become extinct eventually. And the ones who always look forward, who's mind is opened to changes and innovations - will prevail.

This is the way the universe works.

Yes! Let's become the next version of husks to be used by the Reapers!

I think lemmings are smarter than this.

[Asharad Hett]

synthesis = pinnacle of evolution = reapers

Right?

[Tron Mega]

what if evolution doesnt require having a half human/half organic body?

"where were going, we dont need synthesis."

Modifié par Tron Mega, 03 avril 2013 - 04:09 .

[Obadiah]

There is no such thing as the "final evolution of life."

[Boneyaards]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Here is why Synthesis is crap.

http://social.biowar...9404/4#16076107

I find it hilarious that you look at the physics behind Synthesis with such disdain when every single ending has the exact same "pseudo-science" behind it. Sure, running and jumping into a beam in order to alter the matrix of every sentient being is a little far-fetched, but please explain to me how shooting a pipe and causing it to blow up destroys all technology? Better yet, explain how grabbing onto two electrically charged handles all of a sudden turns you into an AI.

Second of all, you make it seem like by choosing Synthesis you submit to the Reaper's will. Wrong. The Catalyst is nothing but a 100% business kind of guy. He doesn't care how it gets done, as long as it gets done. He's not trying to trick you, because all he knows is that he must preserve organic life. Boom, all of a sudden, the variables have aligned perfectly and we find a new alternative to preserving organic life. He's all game, because like I said, he doesn't care how it gets done, as long as it gets done. You don't turn into a husk, you don't become a mindless zombie, you become the peak of evolution. 

Third, why wouldn't you want humanity to reach the pinnacle of evolution? "Oh, because it's morally wrong to force that on someone!" Really? It's morally wrong to bring a race to it's highest potential? Is it morally wrong to try and achieve universal unity? 

Que the "but the Catalyst said 'it's not something that can be... forced' and yet we're forcing it!!!11one!!" He's implying that forcing Synthesis on a galactic society that is not ready can yield disappointing results, not that forcing Synthesis on anyone and anything at anytime is ultimately wrong. This cycle is ready, so he offers you the choice. 

There's no problem with Synthesis. We are the problem. The BSN community is the perfect example of a society that is not ready for Synthesis.

[JDee3]

The green eyes in synthesis was very weird to me but yeah I always saw it as just the final evolution. I chose control though.. didn't want to see anything about the galaxy my Shep knew, change

and think about it.. just because the reapers can think for themselves or whatever now doesn't mean that eventually they'll do something bad. Just one mean, angry reaper thinking fir itself can destroy millions 

Modifié par JDee3, 03 avril 2013 - 07:04 .

[Megaton_Hope]

I'd report this stuff as trolling, if the report system on BSN had an in-built awareness of the existence of trolls. Which I find odd, considering the active moderator presence.

[Applepie_Svk]

Megaton_Hope wrote...

I'd report this stuff as trolling, if the report system on BSN had an in-built awareness of the existence of trolls. Which I find odd, considering the active moderator presence.

I did it with most of OPs threads yet most of them remained open... BSN report system suck or better said works only if you are negative about BioWare or their games.

[Yestare7]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...


Yes! Let's become the next version of husks to be used by the Reapers!

I think lemmings are smarter than this.

LMAO!!!:P

[KennyAshes]

OP, you claim that synthesis is the next step in evolution, because without evolution we are doomed to perish. Yet synthesis is claimed to be the pinacle of "our" evolution. So basically synthesis is a dead-end without a free choice in what way we evolve.
While an evolution based on natural, selfchosen or external events can lead us on a road to all new possibilities and 'evolution'.

Again, I am not saying synthesis is a bad choice. But I am not willing to make a choice when knowing only 'ABC' but not the rest of the alphabet which is the case with synthesis. There are to many unknowns.

[Megaton_Hope]

There's literally no such thing as an evolutionary "pinnacle," of course, unless you count the point at which a species becomes stagnant and is edged out by a more adaptable competitor which survives to breed more effectively.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Seival wrote...
Synthesis is the final evolution of life. Control is one step before the final evolution of life.

lol

I can't believe you think the final evolution of anything is good, because you know what happens to things that stop evolving?

They stagnate and go extinct.

Your posts are getting more absurd, honestly with your reasoning, you would have to be a moron to pick synthesis.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 03 avril 2013 - 08:22 .

[KennyAshes]

Megaton_Hope wrote...

There's literally no such thing as an evolutionary "pinnacle," of course, unless you count the point at which a species becomes stagnant and is edged out by a more adaptable competitor which survives to breed more effectively.

Given the fact that its said that we'd end up at the pinnacle of our evolution I assume that we'd be stagnant.
And even then, life did spring out of nothing so to speak, even after synthesis, organic life will still come to be, it will just take a whole lot longer.

[Reorte]

Yestare7 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Life has no meaning.

Please go and talk to someone, seriously.

As much as I hate to say it there's no reason to think that he isn't right on that one - there's no reason whatsoever to think that there's any meaning or purpose to anything in the universe, there's just stuff that happens as a consequence of having a load of matter, energy, and laws of physics.

That doesn't rule out being able to make your own meanings for your life of course, and you're entirely free to do so without feeling that you shouldn't be because it runs contrary to some nebulous undefined meaning.

[Reorte]

Boneyaards wrote...

I find it hilarious that you look at the physics behind Synthesis with such disdain when every single ending has the exact same "pseudo-science" behind it.

No, there are different levels of far-fetched nonsense.

There's no problem with Synthesis. We are the problem. The BSN community is the perfect example of a society that is not ready for Synthesis.

Well, it's still got too many people in it who actually think it's a good idea for starters.

[shodiswe]

Ecrulis wrote...

not to mention "final evolution" makes no sense, evolution does not work that way, and is not as conformed and generalized as synthesis, as said above, evolution is natural, synthesis is anything but.

The synthesis ending also tells us the catalyst is wrong about it being the fina evolution, it's just that the catalyst fails to see any further than that point. Edi tells us its just the beginning and that they will keep evolving and that they can see new possibilities that they couldnt even have immagined earlier.

But we already know this, the catalyst isnt perfect or flawless.

[shodiswe]

Admittedly the catalyst has apoint but its crazy, an insane zelot dealing in absolutes when the problem and solution is actuly pretty simple.