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[Mordak55]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I will wait and see. It might be okay. I'll see how the RPGs go with other offerings but for offering female leads Bioware is one of the few who do so color me interested.

Very similer to above, but a lot will depend on if the pre release statements actually match the real game. Certainly will not pre order again. 

[Alien Number Six]

Since it will not be a sequel to Mass Effect 3 the answer is no. I will not pay for a prequel or anything else that will live in the shadow of the Mass Effect trilogy.

[Jadebaby]

mtmercydave09 wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

No, I can't trust BioWare with my immersion anymore, especially while Casey Hudson has any say in the game.

They didn't just screw the pooch with ME3, they murdered it, emptied it, stuffed it with dynamite and then screwed it until it exploded.


HOWEVER, if BioWare start making their games more mod friendly I'd definitely consider it!

Agreed, especially with what they did with Ash from ME1 to ME3.  It's hard to get immersed with characters when they end up messing up the characters.

yup, so many character assasinations, some literal (Thane). But how nice would it be if they were mod friendly? Imagine having Ash's look from ME1&2 in 3?

[mtmercydave09]

Jadebaby wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

No, I can't trust BioWare with my immersion anymore, especially while Casey Hudson has any say in the game.

They didn't just screw the pooch with ME3, they murdered it, emptied it, stuffed it with dynamite and then screwed it until it exploded.


HOWEVER, if BioWare start making their games more mod friendly I'd definitely consider it!

Agreed, especially with what they did with Ash from ME1 to ME3.  It's hard to get immersed with characters when they end up messing up the characters.

yup, so many character assasinations, some literal (Thane). But how nice would it be if they were mod friendly? Imagine having Ash's look from ME1&2 in 3?

Agree with you completely.  Would love the next game to be mod friendly for that reason.

[avatar0]

No.

It pains me because I have been a Bioware fan since Baldur's Gate.
I gladly bought any collector's edition I could get my hands on, and any soundtracks that I could.
That is, until the debacle that is ME3 ending.
I donated to children's charity (something worth doing regardless), bought cupcakes, and wrote like many other fans on the BSN and other sites alike.

In the end, Bioware still decided to write off our opinions and feelings as trivial, all because some vague "artistic integrity" that was oh-so-gratifying to the company.
Oh well, so be it.
What we had was real, and it was a hell of a ride through the years.
It almost feels like a when girlfriend, whom you have worked with for so long and so hard to create a stable and fantastic relationship with, suddenly wants to pursue some incomprehensible, personal, and higher aspirations, and is basically telling you to fxxk off.
It's a shame, but if she doesn't love you anymore and feels that how you feel reallyu doesn't matter to her, then it's so long.
And no, we can't be friends after the break up, because she broke my heart in the cruellest way possible: by not caring.

Modifié par avatar0, 05 avril 2013 - 12:39 .

[Matthias King]

I'm honestly not sure.

On one hand, Mass Effect is by far my favorite game series of all time, even with the ME3 ending disaster, which still doesn't sit well with me. Even with that, part of me looks forward to a new Mass Effect adventure.

But with that said, it won't be the Mass Effect as we know it. It won't be Shepard. It won't be the Normandy. It won't be Liara, Garrus, Tali, Wrex, Ash, or any of the rest of the gang. It won't even be the same studio behind it.

Part of me feels like they're only continuing it because EA doesn't want to lose a proven franchise. And it's sounding more and more like they're going to go with a prequel story, which is usually what people do when they're out of ideas.

So what will we be left with? A half-hearted, phoned-in story about some past events we already know quite a bit about and will have no real choice in, such as the Morning War or First Contact War, neither of which are long enough conflicts to sustain a really good, full-length game, let alone another three games.

Another part of me thinks I might just get the next game just for the multiplayer, assuming there is one, which I think is a safe assumption, but the thought of buying a Mass Effect game for something other than the story and characters is a very sad thought.

I don't want a prequel, and a game without Shepard and the Normandy crew just seems wrong.

I know it's a long way off, so I can only speculate right now, but it's not looking good. The odds of me buying it are not very good.

[mtmercydave09]

Matthias King wrote...

I'm honestly not sure.

On one hand, Mass Effect is by far my favorite game series of all time, even with the ME3 ending disaster, which still doesn't sit well with me. Even with that, part of me looks forward to a new Mass Effect adventure.

But with that said, it won't be the Mass Effect as we know it. It won't be Shepard. It won't be the Normandy. It won't be Liara, Garrus, Tali, Wrex, Ash, or any of the rest of the gang. It won't even be the same studio behind it.

Part of me feels like they're only continuing it because EA doesn't want to lose a proven franchise. And it's sounding more and more like they're going to go with a prequel story, which is usually what people do when they're out of ideas.

So what will we be left with? A half-hearted, phoned-in story about some past events we already know quite a bit about and will have no real choice in, such as the Morning War or First Contact War, neither of which are long enough conflicts to sustain a really good, full-length game, let alone another three games.

Another part of me thinks I might just get the next game just for the multiplayer, assuming there is one, which I think is a safe assumption, but the thought of buying a Mass Effect game for something other than the story and characters is a very sad thought.

I don't want a prequel, and a game without Shepard and the Normandy crew just seems wrong.

I know it's a long way off, so I can only speculate right now, but it's not looking good. The odds of me buying it are not very good.

My thoughts exactly.  I really would not be interested in a prequel, just because we've already played the trilogy to know how things end up anyways.  

I also agree, it's not going to be the same without Shep and all the characters.  It's going to take some doing for Bioware to create characters that actually feel like friends like the characters from the trilogy did, and I have my doubts whether they have it in them after they screwed up some characters (like Ash).

Where is everyone hearing that it's sounding like a prequel story though?

[Viper371]

do you plan on buying the new Mass Effect game that is being developed by Bioware, Montreal?
Personally, I know I'm going to be semi-interested just because, well, it's MASS EFFECT;

I don't mind a new cast, new setting, new engine & all.  I will be interested in seeing what it will be about, once details come out.

I doubt I'll be pre-ordering it, I've been burned with Bioware before (DA2) and I have no idea what kind of game it will be.  I'm not gonna play Mass Effect Sim.  Not gonna play Mass Effect MMO.  Not gonna play Mass Effect Mako Destruction derby either or Lego Mass Effect.

So, I'll see.

In general, I don't really like the direction that the videogame industry is going; It seems like corporate greed/pride seems to more crucial than the opinions of the consumers, but EA/Bioware is a business, so they have to make money; however, a business makes NO profit without the consumer, so I think it is wise for EA to think more about the consumer.

All businesses think of the consumer.  But what you like may not be what a majority of customers will like.  And the games have to be designed for consoles, not exclusive to PC.  So, we have hardware limitations to figure in.  Sure, the new consoles look fantastic. But by the time ME4 comes out, they'll be antiquated hardware, but they'll still figure for a huge portion of the sales.

I didn't really like ME2 when it came out, I felt it was dumbed down.  Still,lots of people bought ME3.  So, my tastes in gaming may not be everyone's tastes, even if I feel mine are superior tastes

I hope that they change their business tactics, given that their CEO just stepped down, so hopefully a more consumer-friendly person heads the corporation. My only hope for the franchise is that they actually WRITE the beginning and end before hand; I don't know about you guys, but I tend to think about how it ends after I start the story so that the plot stays coherent throughout.

I don't know.  Knowing *exactly* how it ends could restrict the author.  Having a general idea of where he/she/they are going is a must, but it must let them enough flexibility to make unforeseen adjustements.

Anyway, far from me the idea to tell the authors how to write a story, I think that by now, they have an idea or two on how to write a compelling story

With that being said, I just wished the game was longer when it comes out, and not simply rely on DLC to extend the story.  45-50hrs is a bare minimum, 80-100hrs like Dragon Age 1 is better

20hrs gameplay is for a very long FPS, not an RPG

So what do you guys think about Mass Effect 4 (I'm calling it ME 4 for now)? Yay/nay?

Neutral

[Matthias King]

To be honest, I haven't heard much except I think I read an article somewhere that hinted that they were leaning toward a prequel, but I couldn't direct you to where because I honestly don't remember.

Mostly it's just my intuition, which could turn out to be completely wrong. It's just the sense that I get, based on how it's shaped up.

The property has been handed off to a different studio, with virtually no one from the original trilogy on board.

A 'next chapter' would be very hard to do, given not only how bad the endings were, how badly they were received even after the Extended Cut, and the narrative nightmare it would be to try to follow three different outcomes.

My intuition tells me that rather than tackling the challenge, they'll just cop out and do a prequel, which as I said, seems to be the go-to avenue when ideas run dry. Can't think of the next step? Just do a prequel!

But on top of all that, I just get the strong sense that a sequel is only happening because EA wants it, and it's been handed off to another studio because the original one wanted to be done.

Like I said, this is all just my intuition, and I could be totally wrong, it's just how it all seems to fit together to me, and not in a conspiracty theory way.

Proven IP's are becoming increasingly important to publishers, especially in the past few years. They don't want to take risks, so they go with a proven franchise. EA wants more Mass Effect and if Bioware Edmonton doesn't want to do it, they hand it off to Bioware Montreal..

Modifié par Matthias King, 05 avril 2013 - 01:43 .

[Vertigo_1]

Modius Prime wrote...
Now that Shepard's story is over, do you plan on buying the new Mass Effect game that is being developed by Bioware, Montreal? 

I'd be hesitant to buy it with the way Omega DLC was handled...but who knows they might make a good game

[TheWerdna]

Depends directly upon the game itself. I am not going to commit to buying it or not until after I know more and fan feedback. The ending broke my trust in Bioware, and while the EC and Citadel DLC did enough to make me willing to buy future products, I am defiantly going to wait to see what people say before buying full price.

[-Skorpious-]

Maybe, but likely no. I have lost faith in Bioware to deliver a game that pleases more than it disappoints (I am still reeling over DA2 and ME3).

While I can't say I will never play it, I can definitely say I won't buy it new unless every single user on this board praises it, including The Angry One and Terror_K (if they are still here that is).

[Han Shot First]

It is hard to say because absolutely nothing about the game is known yet.

But I lean more towards 'yes' than 'no.' I enjoyed Mass Effect 3.

[tonofluck21]

I'm gonna be a bit cautious with metacritic scores. It seems like some people would just make the game sound horrible just to spite Bioware and EA even if it turns out to be good, but I understand their reasons for doing so.

[Sanunes]

No idea, I don't blindly buy any game and with how much BioWare games change I can't base my decision on a game that we don't know its name yet. Besides I have zero faith on anything posted about a game online if it would be either fan or professional for I find anything but a neutral representation unhelpful for its always biased by either emotions or money.

Modifié par Sanunes, 05 avril 2013 - 03:21 .

[zeypher]

Look for me to even consider buying it it will have to be in a reaper free universe. This means no blasted prequels, or a side story during the trilogy's timeline. Reapers were the worst part of this series. So sequel, no reapers will interest me in what they can do now.

[Ircasha]

 It's doubtful that I will pony up the cash to play any other bioWare games.  If ME4 came out with outstanding reviews (player reviews, not BS gamesite reviews) I might consider it, but after the fiasco that was the ME3 ending and bioWare's response to it (or lack thereof), I have very little confidence in their ability to make a compelling game anymore.  

I played ME1 and ME2 through dozens of times.  I played ME3 through once.  I just can't bring myself to run through a decent game (it does have its issues before the ending) to face the last 15 minutes again.  I still get angry at the thought of it.  

[Yestare7]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Yestare7 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

- Synthesis-- Crazy AI is crazy and "final evolution of life" is nonsense. After a few generations the "new DNA" is basically destroyed from within by the basic demands of ACTUAL evolution.

That is indeed the future of Synthesis.:lol:
...but I give it 6 weeks...

Probably, but I thought I'd give the Synthesis fans a generation or two of their green paradise before the bubble inevitably popped.

Yes!:P

[Yestare7]

LandoCalrisian wrote...

I think it's safe to say anyone who is still posting/reading the forums will buy ME4. We're all hooked on the series, even the people who come here just to moan.

QFT

[TheProtheans]

Yestare7 wrote...

LandoCalrisian wrote...

I think it's safe to say anyone who is still posting/reading the forums will buy ME4. We're all hooked on the series, even the people who come here just to moan.

QFT

You must be new to the internet or just fools.

[TheRealJayDee]

mtmercydave09 wrote...

Agreed, especially with what they did with Ash from ME1 to ME3.  It's hard to get immersed with characters when they end up messing up the characters.

I had a lot of problems with ME3, but damn, I would have definitely been at least more forgiving if they hadn't changed my favourite character's looks in a way that made me cringe most of the time she was on screen (armour + helmet was okay) and then gave me the feeling I had more dialogue with the paid Day1 DLC character than with my Shepard's trilogy spanning LI.

-Skorpious- wrote...

While I can't say I will never play it, I can definitely say I won't buy it new unless every single user on this board praises it, including The Angry One and Terror_K (if they are still here that is).

I've seen neither TAO nor Terror_K in a damn long time, don't know if they've simply moved on or been banned or whatever.

[Peranor]

[quote]LandoCalrisian wrote...

I think it's safe to say anyone who is still posting/reading the forums will buy ME4. We're all hooked on the series, even the people who come here just to moan.[/quote]




[/quote]


I think you'd be wrong.
Sure, many people still posting here will probably buy The-Next-Mass-Effect-Game-Which-Shold-Not-Be-Referred-to-As-Mass-Effect-4. But far from everyone.

Personally I'll buy it if it's good.
I can only say one thing for sure and that is that I will not pre-order.

Modifié par anorling, 05 avril 2013 - 10:59 .

[Ridwan]

anorling wrote...

LandoCalrisian wrote...

I think it's safe to say anyone who is still posting/reading the forums will buy ME4. We're all hooked on the series, even the people who come here just to moan.

I think you'd be wrong.
Sure, many people still posting here will probably buy The-Next-Mass-Effect-Game-Which-Shold-Not-Be-Referred-to-As-Mass-Effect-4. But far from everyone.

Personally I'll buy it if it's good.
I can only say one thing for sure and that is that I will not pre-order.

I think this will be the case for a lot of people. Though I'm sure they'll try and combat that by adding more shiny trinkets to those that do.

Modifié par M25105, 05 avril 2013 - 11:05 .

[Peranor]

M25105 wrote...

anorling wrote...

LandoCalrisian wrote...

I think it's safe to say anyone who is still posting/reading the forums will buy ME4. We're all hooked on the series, even the people who come here just to moan.

I think you'd be wrong.
Sure, many people still posting here will probably buy The-Next-Mass-Effect-Game-Which-Shold-Not-Be-Referred-to-As-Mass-Effect-4. But far from everyone.

Personally I'll buy it if it's good.
I can only say one thing for sure and that is that I will not pre-order.

I think this will be the case for a lot of people. Though I'm sure they'll try and combat that by adding more shiny trinkets to those that do.

Oh, I'm sure they will

[Ridwan]

Pre-Order Mass Effect 4 and you'll get an ehmm... this gun and this... robot mouse that spins around silly in your cabin, also you'll get Shepard's secret diary!

Here's an excerpt.

Day 459: Samara is being a ****, she won't put out. Think I'll bang Miranda instead.