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~ himegoto's Final Tier list. 2013-04-03. Builds included ~

Débuté par himegoto , avril 03 2013 12:17

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#151
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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 03:50

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Maurader Sackboy wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...
[the Reegar is] a crutch weapon, so is the Acolyte to some extent ...

Please define crutch?  If it means getting kills easily then why wouldn't they be top-tier weapons? Or do you mean something like: only used by scrubs that can't effectively handle more powerful weapons (Javelin, Claymore, etc.)?

Mega just meant to say how the OP plays every kit in the same manner with the same weawpons(hurriLame,acolyte,lolreegar) and judges every kit based on how well they are with those weapons.

Really you shouldn't be getting into discussion if you such small things are beyond your comprehension.

Star fury wrote...

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When you see all the unoptimal ways the characters have been specced and then judging them on their performance, and then flaming anyone who disagrees, i'd say it's a troll AND a flame bait.

Well done OP, well done.


Troll will not spend so much time and effort into making all these lists, builds. Himegoto is legit, he truly believes that his list is full of optimal builds. 

The proper links were made by Zjarcal FYI(and loads of kudos to him); OP didn't even put any effort to the formatting let alone making proper links.

#152
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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 04:05

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wngmv wrote...

Human Adept is easily Tier 1, And Ex-Cerb Adept is Tier 2 for me. Any kits with the new Singularity is an automatic Tier 2 at least.


this. I own plat with HuDept. And why wouldn't you spec singularity for detonate (if you're not soloing)? Throw it out, you got 8 sec to unleash hell then you get another BOOM. Love it

#153
Dr. Tim Whatley
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 04:23

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Rip The Reaper wrote...

wngmv wrote...

Human Adept is easily Tier 1, And Ex-Cerb Adept is Tier 2 for me. Any kits with the new Singularity is an automatic Tier 2 at least.


this. I own plat with HuDept. And why wouldn't you spec singularity for detonate (if you're not soloing)? Throw it out, you got 8 sec to unleash hell then you get another BOOM. Love it

Did I just play a game with you? Cerberus/Reactor?

#154
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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 04:25

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These threads always cause problems, but... anyone saying the cabal vanguard is a better character than the volus engineer and the human soldier is living in chuckle town.

Seriously, in what universe do half of the "tier 2" characters come even remotely close to out playing an equivalently astute h-sol or volus engineer?

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 04:59

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b00g13man wrote...

Rip The Reaper wrote...

wngmv wrote...

Human Adept is easily Tier 1, And Ex-Cerb Adept is Tier 2 for me. Any kits with the new Singularity is an automatic Tier 2 at least.


this. I own plat with HuDept. And why wouldn't you spec singularity for detonate (if you're not soloing)? Throw it out, you got 8 sec to unleash hell then you get another BOOM. Love it

Did I just play a game with you? Cerberus/Reactor?


Well i played a Cerberus/reactor plat yesterday. Haven't gotten on yet today though.

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 05:07

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Rip The Reaper wrote...

Well i played a Cerberus/reactor plat yesterday. Haven't gotten on yet today though.

Must've been someone with a very identical GT

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 06:16

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b00g13man wrote...

Rip The Reaper wrote...

Well i played a Cerberus/reactor plat yesterday. Haven't gotten on yet today though.

Must've been someone with a very identical GT


then that's an interesting coincidence. 

Edit: unless our time zones are different or something and my late last night was your today:)

Modifié par Rip The Reaper, 04 avril 2013 - 06:29 .

#158
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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 08:47

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Oh man, as if this thread isn't bad enough. Now there's a TIME PARADOX inside it.

Maybe that's the answer. Maybe on a completely different tangent of time - in a parallel universe, if you will - these builds make sense, and this tier list is accurate. Rip and Boogieman are geniuses!

#159
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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 10:25

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hime's at it again I see.

Novaguard in Tier 3? On a Gold list? BELOW the Cabal?  Batguard in Tier 1? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Seriously. No.  We went through this last time you posted a Tier list, but your evaluation of the Vanguard's in particular continues to be absolutely terrible.

Modifié par MP-Ryan, 04 avril 2013 - 10:26 .

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 10:29

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Maurader Sackboy wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...
[the Reegar is] a crutch weapon, so is the Acolyte to some extent ...

Please define crutch?  If it means getting kills easily then why wouldn't they be top-tier weapons? Or do you mean something like: only used by scrubs that can't effectively handle more powerful weapons (Javelin, Claymore, etc.)?


A weapon that trivializes the game... turns it into EZ mode, takes no skill to use, etc.

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 10:30

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Annomander wrote...

These threads always cause problems, but... anyone saying the cabal vanguard is a better character than the volus engineer and the human soldier is living in chuckle town.

Seriously, in what universe do half of the "tier 2" characters come even remotely close to out playing an equivalently astute h-sol or volus engineer?


this. 

Cabal is a mediocre character IMO. 

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 10:31

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Also QME tier 3?

trollmeter is peaking. 

Modifié par DHKany, 04 avril 2013 - 10:32 .

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 10:34

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DHKany wrote...

Annomander wrote...

These threads always cause problems, but... anyone saying the cabal vanguard is a better character than the volus engineer and the human soldier is living in chuckle town.

Seriously, in what universe do half of the "tier 2" characters come even remotely close to out playing an equivalently astute h-sol or volus engineer?


this. 

Cabal is a mediocre character IMO. 


Indeed.  Of course, he's basically specced his cabal as a weapon build, so he's going for the soldier/BF crutch anyway.

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 10:41

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megabeast37215 wrote...

A weapon that trivializes the game... turns it into EZ mode, takes no skill to use, etc.


What, and every other shotgun does take more skill?  The Reegar is no different than any other shotgun - most of them benefit from reload cancelling, all of them have specific niche's.  The Reegar is no more a crutch than is the claymore for more experienced players - basically, if you learn how to reload cancel there are a number of highly-effective weapons in the game that outclass everything else.

I agree that it's a lot more forgiving than some of the other shotguns, but it only really shines with reload cancelling and on classes than can stand toe-to-toe with enemies.  It's no more a crutch than the Claymore, Javelin, Hurricane, Talon, Harrier, etc - it's just a highly effective weapon, and therefore people use it.

And before the crutch claims start at me, I have two characters that carry a Reegar - Juggernaut (as backup to the PPR), and Kroguard, because it's more effective than every other weapon in the game on his slow and otherwise non-powerful self.

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Posté 04 avril 2013 - 10:42

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MP-Ryan wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Annomander wrote...

These threads always cause problems, but... anyone saying the cabal vanguard is a better character than the volus engineer and the human soldier is living in chuckle town.

Seriously, in what universe do half of the "tier 2" characters come even remotely close to out playing an equivalently astute h-sol or volus engineer?


this. 

Cabal is a mediocre character IMO. 


Indeed.  Of course, he's basically specced his cabal as a weapon build, so he's going for the soldier/BF crutch anyway.


Cabal lacks identity. I have no idea what it wants to be besides a melee build which can be somehwat fun but get boring after a while. 
Not to mention that two of her abilities are pitiful. 

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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 10:33

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DHKany wrote...

MP-Ryan wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Annomander wrote...

These threads always cause problems, but... anyone saying the cabal vanguard is a better character than the volus engineer and the human soldier is living in chuckle town.

Seriously, in what universe do half of the "tier 2" characters come even remotely close to out playing an equivalently astute h-sol or volus engineer?


this. 

Cabal is a mediocre character IMO. 


Indeed.  Of course, he's basically specced his cabal as a weapon build, so he's going for the soldier/BF crutch anyway.



Cabal lacks identity. I have no idea what it wants to be besides a melee build which can be somehwat fun but get boring after a while. 
Not to mention that two of her abilities are pitiful. 



After the Talon mega-buff Cabal is the worst/most boring Reckoning character.

Modifié par GohanOwns, 05 avril 2013 - 10:36 .

#167
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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 10:50

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why is the batguard tier 1 when kroguard is tier 2?

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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 11:08

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valium wrote...

why is the batguard tier 1 when kroguard is tier 2?


Just in the same way that Collector Adept and QME are tier 3. 

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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 11:14

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So I am not missing out on anything? I can only see batguard as a slightly better weapon/worse charge/lower barrier kroguard.

Modifié par valium, 05 avril 2013 - 11:28 .

#170
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Posté 07 avril 2013 - 03:36

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valium wrote...

So I am not missing out on anything? I can only see batguard as a slightly better weapon/worse charge/lower barrier kroguard.

Slightly faster + slightly lesser shields > slightly slower + slightly more shields.


And bumping DI to tier 1.

#171
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Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 03:27

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just checking in.. wow this has been a long while.

 

and Bump!!!!!!!


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Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 03:33

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QME and TSent are in Tier 3? Both are top 10 kits.

Also you got balls son, dat necro, inb4lock, etc.

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Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 03:39

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That list blows...  :whistle:


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#174
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Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 03:41

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Tier I:

Smashdept

Drelldept

Infidrell

Smashguard

Drellguard

 

Tier II:
Salarian Engineer

Salarian Infiltrator

Turian saboteur

N7 Shadow

Asari valkyrie

 

Everything else - tier III and below


#175
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Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 04:44

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==============
Tier 1
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Everyone except Volus

 

 

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Tier 2
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Volus

 

 

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Tier 3
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None


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