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[Zjarcal]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

TchockTckocky wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

He's kinda' boring to play.

I don't know what it is, but charge, PD, repeat is not as interesting as Shoot, reload, shoot.
I just don't get it. Maybe it's his personality.

I find him a bit boring too myself actually.

Anyway, him being a great kit doesn't change the fact that he sucks off host, which is why I never use him.

[Credit2team]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

His damage against large boss targets is a bit weak. Also, lag sensitive. Otherwise a fairly solid kit.

PD speced for armor damage helps a lot with boss killing

[Mr_Happy]

overlordchin wrote...

Mr_Happy wrote...

He's a Vanguard, so host dependant.
He's pretty squishy for a Vanguard, so you have to be a bit careful with PD.
He's not that easy to do well with. I've seen people fail miserably with this kit, meaning: dying a lot.

Those are some reasons I can imagine.

that is me. I fail miserably with this guy. I think I just dont know how to properly play / spec him. I think my problem was that I tried to play him like a nova guard and that didnt seem to work very well at least not the way I was doing it. 

Do you mean the Biotic Charge -> Phase Disruptor combo? Because that really doesn't work so well. You'd rather not be in the enemies faces when you're in the process of depleting your barrier with PD.
Quick tip though: His light melee does good damage, staggers and gives great damage reduction, which is why some people prefer to Charge -> light melee like crazy, which does work to some extent.

Best Slayer video I've seen so far was a guy with a Graal w/ Incendiary ammo wrecking gold. He'd prime a target with a Graal shot and detonate with PD for quick fire explosions.. Melee only when he was sure he could get out of the situation alive.

[overlordchin]

Mr_Happy wrote...


Do you mean the Biotic Charge -> Phase Disruptor combo? Because that really doesn't work so well. You'd rather not be in the enemies faces when you're in the process of depleting your barrier with PD.
Quick tip though: His light melee does good damage, staggers and gives great damage reduction, which is why some people prefer to Charge -> light melee like crazy, which does work to some extent.

Best Slayer video I've seen so far was a guy with a Graal w/ Incendiary ammo wrecking gold. He'd prime a target with a Graal shot and detonate with PD for quick fire explosions.. Melee only when he was sure he could get out of the situation alive.

yes that is exactly what i mean and you are right it doesnt work well. I died a lot. I generally prefer to use kits that dont require ammo/consumables to be effective b/c I cant seem to get enough of them. I buy JEP a lot and always feel like i dont have enough ammo or str enhancers. Thats pretty much the only reason i dont play the shadow more as well. Do you have a link to that video by any chance?

[Deerber]

chipsandwich wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

chipsandwich wrote...

Host dependence, charge doesn't work properly sometimes

Also not as good on open maps, especially London and Hydra

I'll give you London... but I can do quite well with him on Hydra.

Did I say London and/or Hydra? I meant to add Geth and Collectors.

Challenge: accepted 

overlordchin wrote...

Mr_Happy wrote...


Do you mean the Biotic Charge -> Phase Disruptor combo? Because that really doesn't work so well. You'd rather not be in the enemies faces when you're in the process of depleting your barrier with PD. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]
Quick tip though: His light melee does good damage, staggers and gives great damage reduction, which is why some people prefer to Charge -> light melee like crazy, which does work to some extent.

Best Slayer video I've seen so far was a guy with a Graal w/ Incendiary ammo wrecking gold. He'd prime a target with a Graal shot and detonate with PD for quick fire explosions.. Melee only when he was sure he could get out of the situation alive.

yes that is exactly what i mean and you are right it doesnt work well. I died a lot. I generally prefer to use kits that dont require ammo/consumables to be effective b/c I cant seem to get enough of them. I buy JEP a lot and always feel like i dont have enough ammo or str enhancers. Thats pretty much the only reason i dont play the shadow more as well. Do you have a link to that video by any chance?

I don't know what is the video that guy is talking about, but I reckon my solo could help you a bit. Inside the thread there is also a link to another solo thread in which I play much more conservatively and I don't care much about time, resulting in only one death (by a stupid mistake). Hopefully they can both help you a little bit 

Modifié par Deerber, 03 avril 2013 - 04:32 .

[ThatOddGuy]

I don't play him because it takes way to long to start a match when I want to host. So I never host...

And Phase Disruptor is 100% useless off-host. Complete waste of button-mashing.

[overlordchin]

thanks deerber!

[ThatOddGuy]

Super Saiyajin wrote...

Phase Disruptor feels akward on consoles. He gets squishy because he uses up his shields for his power. I imagine people don't like that.

So it isn't just me having a horrible time using this power. 


But I should still try hosting.

[inversevideo]

billy the squid wrote...

Needs to be on host, lag is the bane of these types of characters.

Pretty much.

Phase Disruptor is very unreliable, for me, off host.

PD is 'bread & butter' for the N7 Slayer. The N7 Shadow is better at 'sword play'. So if PD is flaky, for the Slayer, then there is not much reason to use the slayer.

[Deerber]

overlordchin wrote...

thanks deerber!

You're welcome 





Anyway, to all those saying that the Slayer sucks off host... That's not entirely true. Sure, it's miles better on host, but even off host it can be used in a pretty good way. Take a look here. Obviously 3 of us were playing off-host, and yet the game wasn't bad at all. Sure, lots of frustration when you die doing stuff you know you could have pulled off on host, but still... It's not as bad as you are all picturing it.

[Stardusk]

Because 2 hurts too much after a while.

[d_nought]

Deerber wrote...

overlordchin wrote...

thanks deerber!

You're welcome 





Anyway, to all those saying that the Slayer sucks off host... That's not entirely true. Sure, it's miles better on host, but even off host it can be used in a pretty good way. Take a look here. Obviously 3 of us were playing off-host, and yet the game wasn't bad at all. Sure, lots of frustration when you die doing stuff you know you could have pulled off on host, but still... It's not as bad as you are all picturing it.

Oh. It's me

Still, having PD come out like half a second after you press the button is very annoying. Plus, we were a co-ordinated team with max level equipment. I'd hate to have to carry a PUG off host with the Slayer, especially from Australia .

[Deerber]

chipsandwich wrote...

Oh. It's me

Still, having PD come out like half a second after you press the button is very annoying. Plus, we were a co-ordinated team with max level equipment. I'd hate to have to carry a PUG off host with the Slayer, especially from Australia .

Yes it's you! 

Yeah sure, pugging off-host as a Slayer is not the best idea around. I was simply saying that he's not God-awful off host too.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Lag

[Zjarcal]

Deerber wrote...

overlordchin wrote...

thanks deerber!

You're welcome 

Anyway, to all those saying that the Slayer sucks off host... That's not entirely true. Sure, it's miles better on host, but even off host it can be used in a pretty good way. Take a look here. Obviously 3 of us were playing off-host, and yet the game wasn't bad at all. Sure, lots of frustration when you die doing stuff you know you could have pulled off on host, but still... It's not as bad as you are all picturing it.

Sure, try that when you're pugging with 3 bad players instead of 3 good friends... 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 03 avril 2013 - 06:26 .

[rlro]

I like him (not my favorite class, though), but he is unplayable off-host. Those that insist on playing him off-host are almost always noobs that do nothing but spawn BS.

[DarkseidXIII]

I'm not big on any Earth char. Like the Destroyer the most because he's stagger proof.

[Zjarcal]

Air Quotes wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Deerber wrote...

overlordchin wrote...

thanks deerber!

You're welcome 

Anyway, to all those saying that the Slayer sucks off host... That's not entirely true. Sure, it's miles better on host, but even off host it can be used in a pretty good way. Take a look here. Obviously 3 of us were playing off-host, and yet the game wasn't bad at all. Sure, lots of frustration when you die doing stuff you know you could have pulled off on host, but still... It's not as bad as you are all picturing it.

Sure, try that when you're pugging with 3 bad players instead of 3 good friends... 

 

But they are all bad....hah, I'm kidding, but srsly...nah I'm kidding...... or am I?

Listen to yourself, you're indoctrinated.

[Rodia Driftwood]

Off-host lag.

[DeathNyx]

Yeah he's a Biotic Slash spammer... many people use him only for that power.

[Thrasher91604]

I've been playing him exclusively in PUGs the last couple of days. Had to try out the newish PD buff. Very fun! I've had about a 75% success rate in games not being glitched or lagged enough to affect charge or PD significantly.

But I had a very frustrating experience vs Geth stunlock and lag on Rio no less. I had to stop with the apply ammo prime / charge combo after dying way too many times, and backpedaled to mostly safer long range ammo priming / PD combos. That map is better for long range sniping. Not very satisfying to not be able to clear spawns up close and personal, though. We did extract though I had to keep in the background.

Deerber what is your build? I have biotic slash at 6 just to be able to mix it up a bit. But fitness only at 3. Hardly ever melee. Usually prime with incediary ammo and then charge -> fire explosion followup with another shot or PD if needed on mooks. Should probably try the light melee out more.

Modifié par Thrasher91604, 03 avril 2013 - 06:49 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Ew @ Acolyte. 

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 03 avril 2013 - 07:07 .