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[iOnlySignIn]

Xcam901 wrote...

I will admit he is hard to use on hydra

Nothing is hard to use on Hydra if you don't mess up spawns.

[jamdjedi]

wow so much 'host' excuses..

LTP without being host.. I do fine off host with him, just got to survive that first wave were your BC isn't responding as well as you like

[jamdjedi]

Deerber wrote...

overlordchin wrote...

thanks deerber!

You're welcome 





Anyway, to all those saying that the Slayer sucks off host... That's not entirely true. Sure, it's miles better on host, but even off host it can be used in a pretty good way. Take a look here. Obviously 3 of us were playing off-host, and yet the game wasn't bad at all. Sure, lots of frustration when you die doing stuff you know you could have pulled off on host, but still... It's not as bad as you are all picturing it.

^^

too many using the 'it must be host crutch' I never even knew or even noticed a difference until reading it here

[jamdjedi]

rlro wrote...

I like him (not my favorite class, though), but he is unplayable off-host. Those that insist on playing him off-host are almost always noobs that do nothing but spawn BS.

if you're on PS3 add me -jamdjedi-and you host and I'll prove you totally wrong

[Invisible Juggernaut]

Just came from a game with him while I was off host. Dat Fire Rate drop. But yeah, PD feels so slow off host, and it really is hard as hell to aim. You literally have to point it at their feet and hope the splash damage hits the laggy hit box. Other than that, the game was great. Until I got sync killed. I also happened to be carrying scrubs as well, so we ended up wiping on wave five Reapers/Ghost/Gold. Yeah, lag really makes him lose appeal, not total usefulness, but you have to be extremely aware of the board and enemy placements to make sure you don't just teleport and have a banshee follow you through the wall, and another banshee behind you.

[mackfactor]

Lag is a killer of slayers. It makes him just brutal to use. Probably the most lag inhibited character in the game.

[Xcam901]

Ganglok3 wrote...

wow so much 'host' excuses..

LTP without being host.. I do fine off host with him, just got to survive that first wave were your BC isn't responding as well as you like

I can fire all my PD's very quickly on host, off host there is a .5-1 second time when I'm finished firing, that I can't fire again. It really reduces DPS.

[Grun7mas7er]

That title... deja vu. As for the question, I only use the Slayer when I get the chance to host with friends. If that's any indication of what other people do, he's not exactly underused, just exclusive.

[valium]

Host - kill all the things.

Offhost - die to all the things.

[RoZh2400]

I play the Slayer more than any other character on platinum because he is my best character: Mobile, survivable, incredibly high DPS, and, of course, I play on host.

[Zjarcal]

Ganglok3 wrote...

wow so much 'host' excuses..

LTP without being host.. I do fine off host with him, just got to survive that first wave were your BC isn't responding as well as you like

[jamdjedi]

Zjarcal wrote...

Ganglok3 wrote...

wow so much 'host' excuses..

LTP without being host.. I do fine off host with him, just got to survive that first wave were your BC isn't responding as well as you like

not at all, quite average I would say, no need to have a large E-Peen, if my R-peen is 'nicely sized' 

The difference is negligible and like I said once you get passed the first wave or two. (I ALWAYS seem to die more in wave 1-2 just getting a feel of the slight lag) The class plays the same..

PD is easy to aim.. I understand the lag issue, its apparent when you try to do the super Vanguard ninja crap and are like 'I pressed it I'm PRESSING IT-FIRE DAMNNIT!' then you die .

this is true every, time off-host I play the Slayer-I die mostly in waves 1-2 and perhaps wave 10-if I'm getting jumping and crazy.

Slayer is a great package carrier and can hit objectives quickly because of the wall phasing and speed

Modifié par Ganglok3, 03 avril 2013 - 10:00 .

[Thrasher91604]

Yep it takes a couple of waves to "calibrate" the lag. Then I back off further if its really bad. Super-ninja CQC spawn destroying frenzy goes into temporary retirement, for a more conservative approach. Not nearly as fun.

Modifié par Thrasher91604, 03 avril 2013 - 10:26 .

[RamsenC]

That's why I almost always host. Slayer = Ninja Gaiden. High skill cap, but awesome and worth it. Playing offhost isn't fun. 

Modifié par RamsenC, 03 avril 2013 - 10:31 .

[megawug]

Yeah, he's kinda boring. His sword is mostly for decoration. Nothing really wrong with the kit though.

[Thrasher91604]

What sort of gets under my skin is that I usually burn through a few gels to get through the calibration waves on laggy servers. Gel expensive class to play. Then I may be short on clutch waves 10 etc, reducing the chance for extraction.

Modifié par Thrasher91604, 03 avril 2013 - 10:40 .

[OniAngel]

i dont do well with one and i have yet to see a good one. i have out scored pd spaming slarers with a SE and even a volus while supporting them with the occasional shield recharge for more pd spam.

[PaperAlien]

Zjarcal wrote...

Ganglok3 wrote...

wow so much 'host' excuses..

LTP without being host.. I do fine off host with him, just got to survive that first wave were your BC isn't responding as well as you like

[Occurus]

Off host, a talon can fire five deadly arrows and get back in cover before a slayer pushes the light out out his palm. Yeah, people avoid him the same reason they avoid the talon before buff.

[Kaelis_33]

I dont use him for the same reason I dont use the other vanguards, its just too easy. I feel cheap like I am cheating the whole time. Also it kills strategy, you just charge and blast, boring.

[Ryumanjisen]

Mr_Happy wrote...

He's a Vanguard, so host dependant.
He's pretty squishy for a Vanguard, so you have to be a bit careful with PD.
He's not that easy to do well with. I've seen people fail miserably with this kit, meaning: dying a lot.

Those are some reasons I can imagine.

Squishy?

Before the Juggy jumped into the fray, the Slayer was the only char who could hold his ground against a couple of Geth Primes and two (or more) Hunters/Pyros.

[Red Panda]

Ganglok3 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Ganglok3 wrote...

wow so much 'host' excuses..

LTP without being host.. I do fine off host with him, just got to survive that first wave were your BC isn't responding as well as you like

Obvious silver player is obvious.

http://social.biowar.../index/16439991

[Red Panda]

Ryumanjisen wrote...

Mr_Happy wrote...

He's a Vanguard, so host dependant.
He's pretty squishy for a Vanguard, so you have to be a bit careful with PD.
He's not that easy to do well with. I've seen people fail miserably with this kit, meaning: dying a lot.

Those are some reasons I can imagine.

Squishy?

Before the Juggy jumped into the fray, the Slayer was the only char who could hold his ground against a couple of Geth Primes and two (or more) Hunters/Pyros.

Only if you can light melee spam properly without getting staggered by Hunter McScumbag.

[Ryumanjisen]

Mr_Happy wrote...

Only if you can light melee spam properly without getting staggered by Hunter McScumbag.

Of course. Cancel the third light melee into a Biotic Charge and you are nearly invulnerable.

Modifié par Ryumanjisen, 07 avril 2013 - 07:20 .

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Personally if I use him off host, it has to be with someone I know has a really good connection. Other than lag issues, he's really fun to use. I like sniping with the PD. Laser sniping ftw!