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[Lady Abstract]

 OK im on my second me3 playthrough my first playthrough i chose control because synthesis wasnt an option for me because of my EMS and i didnt want to destroy myself, geth, or edi. Only to learn i still died anyway and i couldnt help but feel like i made a stupid choice and the indoctrination theory didnt help. SO now in this playthrough i think im just going to turn the game off when i get to the God child and consider it a completed gameplay.

However i have a few questions about the endings ok

1. Control Ending. For one it feels like you're equivelant to the indoctrinated illusive man. And if you choose control ending that means your in control of whatever the reapers do? (supposedly) So what happens if/when shepard dies after jumping into the beam? How can he be in control of the reapers if hes/shes dead? Does that mean the boy tricked shepard into killing himself and the cycle continues? How can a person whos only been alive for (however old shepard is) control beings that are so alien and have been around for thousands of years? To control something you have to know everything about it and it cant be alien to you. Shepard really doesnt understand the reapers...so how is it that he can control something he doesnt even understand

2. Synthesis ending. Again for one i cant help be feel you'd be an equivelance of the indoctrinated Saren. Also how can we just force people into synthesis against their will? Isnt that what the reapers are doing anyway with the harvest? Genetically repurposing orgainics and replacing what makes them organic with technology? Wouldnt this effect the natural flow and balance of life itself? Why does this decision require more EMS than the others?What makes it so special? If shepard is half tech than why does he have to die with this ending? Accroding to bioware this is the happiest ending.

3. Destroy ending. I understand that we played all 3 games to destroy the reapers. If the synthesis ending is the happiest ending why is the destroy ending the only ending where shepard can potentially live? Why would they show a scene of him breathing if they dont plan on using him in future installments? So upon choosing destroy who's to say that idk 10k years later organic life creates machines and they end up becoming equivalent to another reaper phenomenon? 

4. The Indoctrination Theory. It seemed true until bioware shot it down. (i think bioware couldve made alot of money going along with it and cashing in on it  ) So who is the little boy? If the boy died how is it that hes the person to give you your choices? Is shep hallucinating? Is he dreaming? Or did he just come back to life for the end? Or is it similar to the geth missin where everything appeared to look like what you already know. If so why choose the boy? 

So idk its all wierd to me.  so what i have a million questions I dont even think i included all the questions i had. I just dont know what the best ending is. Is there even a best ending? Or is it the lesser evil or least worst type thing? I mean i thought we all had our own game depending on our decisions but it looks like every decision we ever made in all 3 mass effects were irrelevent because it all ends kinda the same. well yea thats it i guess

[Spartas Husky]

Control= Illusive Man
Synthesis= Saren
Destroy=.....

There is no best ending.

DO you want to eat a bowl of **** with a green, blue or red tie on top?

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

1. Did you have the EC installed?

2. Whether or not you had it installed, did you actually pay attention?

[AlanC9]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...
So what happens if/when shepard dies after jumping into the beam? How can he be in control of the reapers if hes/shes dead?

Do you have the EC installed? The ending cinematic should have made this clear. It's an AI with Shepard's memory and personality, not the original Shepard.

To control something you have to know everything about it and it cant be alien to you.

Really? So how am I controlling this IPad?

If the synthesis ending is the happiest ending why is the destroy ending the only ending where shepard can potentially live?

It's a tradeoff. Bio didn't want to make a single perfect ending.

Why would they show a scene of him breathing if they dont plan on using him in future installments?

Why shouldn't they? There's no particular reason to kill Shepard in all endings

So upon choosing destroy who's to say that idk 10k years later organic life creates machines and they end up becoming equivalent to another reaper phenomenon?

They might. If you think that might happen, don't pick Destroy.

So who is the little boy? If the boy died how is it that hes the person to give you your choices? Is shep hallucinating? Is he dreaming? Or did he just come back to life for the end? Or is it similar to the geth missin where everything appeared to look like what you already know. If so why choose the boy?

A fairly transparent attempt at emotional manipulation by the Catalyst; he's trying to project an image of innocence

 Is there even a best ending? Or is it the lesser evil or least worst type thing? I mean i thought we all had our own game depending on our decisions but it looks like every decision we ever made in all 3 mass effects were irrelevent because it all ends kinda the same. well yea thats it i guess

There's no single ending that everyone agrees is the best ending, no. But that certainly doesn't mean that the endings are "kinda the same."

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 avril 2013 - 08:00 .

[Ironhandjustice]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Control= Illusive Man
Synthesis= Saren
Destroy=.....

There is no best ending.

DO you want to eat a bowl of **** with a green, blue or red tie on top?

You have MEHEM.

Is more logical, of course.

@OP, the answer to all your questions is JUST-BAD-WRITING.

If you want to make yourself depressed, see Deus Ex endings. Don't worry about spoilers, you have already seen them in ME... :innocent:

[Spartas Husky]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Control= Illusive Man
Synthesis= Saren
Destroy=.....

There is no best ending.

DO you want to eat a bowl of **** with a green, blue or red tie on top?

You have MEHEM.

Is more logical, of course.

@OP, the answer to all your questions is JUST-BAD-WRITING.

If you want to make yourself depressed, see Deus Ex endings. Don't worry about spoilers, you have already seen them in ME... :innocent:

DEus Ex... god what an awesome end. I played it after ME3... then I saw!!, I SAW the DAMN!!! freacking room I was like.........................
...........................

wtf is this?... is this it?... are you serious!!!!!!!!!!!?

PLAy deus ex after mass effect, PERFECT therapy... so as long as you dont finish it. The Deus ex gameplay I liked... somewhat. The endings, god that was.... yeah

[Ecrulis]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

If you want to make yourself depressed, see Deus Ex endings. Don't worry about spoilers, you have already seen them in ME... :innocent:

Sad but true

[Ironhandjustice]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Control= Illusive Man
Synthesis= Saren
Destroy=.....

There is no best ending.

DO you want to eat a bowl of **** with a green, blue or red tie on top?

You have MEHEM.

Is more logical, of course.

@OP, the answer to all your questions is JUST-BAD-WRITING.

If you want to make yourself depressed, see Deus Ex endings. Don't worry about spoilers, you have already seen them in ME... :innocent:

DEus Ex... god what an awesome end. I played it after ME3... then I saw!!, I SAW the DAMN!!! freacking room I was like.........................
...........................

wtf is this?... is this it?... are you serious!!!!!!!!!!!?

PLAy deus ex after mass effect, PERFECT therapy... so as long as you dont finish it. The Deus ex gameplay I liked... somewhat. The endings, god that was.... yeah

Did you know that these... ending... was the same than Foundation's Edge (Issac Asimov) and Deus Ex 1?

Yup. I was depressed as well.

[Spartas Husky]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Control= Illusive Man
Synthesis= Saren
Destroy=.....

There is no best ending.

DO you want to eat a bowl of **** with a green, blue or red tie on top?

You have MEHEM.

Is more logical, of course.

@OP, the answer to all your questions is JUST-BAD-WRITING.

If you want to make yourself depressed, see Deus Ex endings. Don't worry about spoilers, you have already seen them in ME... :innocent:

DEus Ex... god what an awesome end. I played it after ME3... then I saw!!, I SAW the DAMN!!! freacking room I was like.........................
...........................

wtf is this?... is this it?... are you serious!!!!!!!!!!!?

PLAy deus ex after mass effect, PERFECT therapy... so as long as you dont finish it. The Deus ex gameplay I liked... somewhat. The endings, god that was.... yeah

Did you know that these... ending... was the same than Foundation's Edge (Issac Asimov) and Deus Ex 1?

Yup. I was depressed as well.

I googled the the first game after human revolution to see if it was better... turns out they live up to their damn title name in a very literal way. Obvious in hindsight of course. Weird things is the story is really nice... I like politically motivated stories but the endings... so damn lazy.

Funny how I just recently discovered emulators and was playing, square enix old games, snes and the like... and so nice. Guess all companies now are crap.

[PinkToolTheater]

I am also on my second playthrough and I kind of don't get/forgot why:

The Catalyst says the Illusive man is indoctrinated and that he controls him, yet sends reapers to destroy the research facility on Horizon?

[Spartas Husky]

PinkToolTheater wrote...

I am also on my second playthrough and I kind of don't get/forgot why:

The Catalyst says the Illusive man is indoctrinated and that he controls him, yet sends reapers to destroy the research facility on Horizon?

Just cuz....

Or Tim isn't as indoctrinate as they say... which means they are lying

or not

[AlanC9]

Because TIM was getting results with his Control experiments.  Up to the very end of the game, TIM and Cerberus still think they're fighting the Reapers rather than helping them, so Harbinger can't just phone TIM and tell him to knock it off.

Which means that TIM's not quite as indoctrinated as, say Saren or Kenson, yep. Not much of an issue, really -- Indoctrination was already shown to be completely incoherent in the earlier games.Benezia and Saren aren't at all alike, and Kenson's different from both, though much closer to Saren.

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 avril 2013 - 09:00 .

[SiriusXI]

PinkToolTheater wrote...

I am also on my second playthrough and I kind of don't get/forgot why:

The Catalyst says the Illusive man is indoctrinated and that he controls him, yet sends reapers to destroy the research facility on Horizon?

Haaaa yeah, Mass Effect 3 continues to be full of awesome =D

[Spartas Husky]

AlanC9 wrote...
, so Harbinger can't just phone TIM and tell him to knock it off.

I love that...

ring ring...

TIM: hello

Harbinger: hey... HEY... knock it off already.... I know what you did...


TIM:... ...awww man...

[Lady Abstract]

 I played Deus Ex but i still havent beaten it yet 

[Lady Abstract]

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

1. Did you have the EC installed?

2. Whether or not you had it installed, did you actually pay attention?

No at this time i didnt because the EC wasnt out yet

[Spartas Husky]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

 I played Deus Ex but i still havent beaten it yet 

Just remember the name of the game when you get to the ending. YOu already read all this so  lol you've been throughly warned.

[Dalael81]

The endings really needed some more elaboration. I'm curious to see if there will be any in 4.
I originally picked destroy but thought holding the Geth and Edi as narrative hostages was stupid. Especially seeing as how some item I found in the course of the game said it gave the Crucible pinpoint accurate locations of every Reaper in the galaxy. Then again as we've seen our EMS meant squat. I'd loved to have seen the Crucible do exactly what it did, but the result being different. The beam to the relays, then the relays send out the wave which pings for all the Reaper ships and disables kinetic barriers. Then the relays start pulling in space debris and using them as ammo in blowing the crap out of the Reapers. Then ground troops just have to waste the variety of husks who no longer have leadership.

I've kinda been thinking on the control ending more. I think one of the problems is that maybe it takes into consideration a much bigger picture which is sorta hinted at in the themes, but falls apart when that's all it is. It's been said the Reapers are needed, but we only focus on a galaxy wide perspective. If AI rises up to eliminate organics, then that'd mean other galaxies are full of uber synthetics. So the Reapers are a guard force against them, using organics in our galaxy to rebuild their forces. So control keeps them around to protect against that possibility, but it wasn't really elaborated on so *shrugs* It's just a thought I've had. Probably just a route they could have gone.

The synthesis ending just seems odd in that the whole first game was fighting against it. Plus changing everyone regardless of their wishes just seems wrong. I think it's my least favorite.

I chose destroy as it's what the whole series had revolved around, and the new choices seemed to just be against the whole thing I'd been fighting for.

[Hey]

It seems to me you are a refuser. Reject that ****, homie!