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[Caineghis2500]

Well does it?

[d_nought]

Smarts, patience and communication.

Not so much l33t quickscopes or whatever.

Although I'm starting to care less for rocket runs tbh. sub8 group hasn't done very many no rocket runs and I'd rather play PUGs.

Modifié par chipsandwich, 04 avril 2013 - 08:26 .

[Caineghis2500]

chipsandwich wrote...

Smarts, patience and communication.

Not so much l33t quickscopes or whatever.

Although I'm starting to care less for rocket runs tbh. sub8 group hasn't done very many no rocket runs and I'd rather play PUGs.

So a noob can learn to speed run effectively with just a few games??

[Titus Thongger]

I say it does.

You need
- knowledge of the map and spawns
- how to use soft cover
- know when to push or when to hang back
- be able to communicate with a team

[Cricketer15]

caineghis2500 wrote...

chipsandwich wrote...

Smarts, patience and communication.

Not so much l33t quickscopes or whatever.

Although I'm starting to care less for rocket runs tbh. sub8 group hasn't done very many no rocket runs and I'd rather play PUGs.

So a noob can learn to speed run effectively with just a few games??

if you are going for a record you need to know how to handle tight situations and hit a phantom in the head. 

that reminds me we havent attempt to get sub 12 in jade no rockets in a while.

Modifié par Cricketer15, 04 avril 2013 - 08:32 .

[megabeast37215]

caineghis2500 wrote...

chipsandwich wrote...

Smarts, patience and communication.

Not so much l33t quickscopes or whatever.

Although I'm starting to care less for rocket runs tbh. sub8 group hasn't done very many no rocket runs and I'd rather play PUGs.

So a noob can learn to speed run effectively with just a few games??

Yup.

This was proven when people were speed-farming before Reckoning (I know... I taught several lobbies full of them). If you can follow instructions and be self-less... you can speedrun. Epeeners struggle with it more than n00bs IMO.

Developing the speed-run strategy takes skill and know-how... executing it is pretty simple.

[megabeast37215]

Titus Thongger wrote...

I say it does.

You need
- knowledge of the map and spawns
- how to use soft cover
- know when to push or when to hang back
- be able to communicate with a team

I'd say this is true of objective waves... but not the others.

[Caineghis2500]

[quote]megabeast37215 wrote...

[quote]caineghis2500 wrote...

[quote]chipsandwich wrote...

Smarts, patience and communication.

Not so much l33t quickscopes or whatever.

Although I'm starting to care less for rocket runs tbh. sub8 group hasn't done very many no rocket runs and I'd rather play PUGs.
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So a noob can learn to speed run effectively with just a few games??

[/quote]

Yup.

 If you can follow instructions and be self-less... you can speedrun. Epeeners struggle with it more than n00bs IMO.
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I guess thats why a certain E-peener deleted me for showing a more effective strategy lol:lol:

[LegionofRannoch]

speed running takes the fun out of playing a "satisfying" game.

Modifié par LegionofRannoch, 04 avril 2013 - 08:39 .

[lightswitch]

Anyone can speed run and get ten minute times fairly consistently. But if you want sub 9 or even sub 8 times seems like you're going to need a good manifest, use appropriate builds, and practice/grind quite a bit.

[Geist.H]

Developing the speed-run strategy takes skill and know-how... executing it is pretty simple.

I agree, I never cared about speedrunning (and thus do not think of myself as a good speedrunner.) but when I joined cowwy for one to "get a taste", it took very little efforts for me to understand what was going on and how to reproduce it.

Coming up with new, faster strategies is probably the only "skillfull" thing about speedrunning. You will never be threatened. Your actual gaming skill will only be needed during objective waves or if something goes wrong.

I'd say this is true of objective waves... but not the others.

Indeed.

Anyone can speed run and get ten minute times fairly consistently. But
if you want sub 9 or even sub 8 times seems like you're going to need a
good manifest, use appropriate builds, and practice/grind quite a bit.

A <8 speedrun can be achieved on a small map with armored compartment and people with rank X URs/optimized builds.

This game remains a PvE grinder, it all boils down to how long you have played.

All in all, It was both an interesting, but yet underwhelming experience which further reinforced my lack of interest for speedrunning even though I understand why people may like it and seek to always find a faster setup.

The thought process behind the creation of new strategies/setup is much more interesting than the actual speedrun.

Modifié par Geist.H, 04 avril 2013 - 09:13 .

[Sovereign24]

Not anymore. Armoured Compartments ftw.

Agree with megabeast. Formulating the strategy does take skill but really any noob can execute it once you explain it to them.

Modifié par Sovereign24, 04 avril 2013 - 08:49 .

[Catastrophy]

Communication is the key. Decent loadout helps, too.

[RoZh2400]

Communication skills are paramount for speedruns. Without proper coordination, optimization simply won't happen.

[Caineghis2500]

Flaming Snake wrote...

No it doesn't, it's easy, and anyone can do it.

Is that why solo threads are spammed more than speed run threads???

[LegionofRannoch]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Flaming Snake wrote...

No it doesn't, it's easy, and anyone can do it.

Is that why solo threads are spammed more than speed run threads???

solo threads are spammed more because anyone can solo, silver solo, gold solo, platinum solo. its all personal.

speedruns, if it isnt a record why bother posting.

[Caineghis2500]

Paynez wrote...

Geist.H wrote...

Anyone can speed run and get ten minute times fairly consistently. But
if you want sub 9 or even sub 8 times seems like you're going to need a
good manifest, use appropriate builds, and practice/grind quite a bit.

A <8 speedrun is fairly easy to achieve on a small map with armored compartment and people with rank X URs/optimized builds.

This game remains a PvE grinder, it all boils down to how long you have played.

All in all, It was both an interesting, but yet underwhelming experience which further reinforced my lack of interest for speedrunning even though I understand why people may like it and seek to always find a faster setup.

The thought process behind the creation of new strategies/setup is much more interesting than the actual speedrun.

Have you got sub 8?

And only like the 2 good speed running teams from XBox and PC have gone sub 8

The record can only be attained by the blessings of the RNG god.

[Geist.H]

Have you got sub 8?

And only like the 2 good speed running teams from XBox and PC have gone sub 8

I think we had a 8:10-8:20 or something speedrun, I was asked to use my GI which was only level 8. This coupled with my own inexperience makes me think that cowwy's team could probably have lowered it below 8 with a level 20, experienced player.

I don't really see the legendary feat behind having one person rocket nuking 3 waves then swapping position with another for the following waves etc.. I'm only talking about AC based speedruns.

But yeah, since I do not bring evidences, you can only have my words, so feel free to disregard what i'm saying.

Speedrunning with such time, on any map, without abusive use of AC/Glacier/missiles, I will totally respect that and recognize the skill needed to achieve it.

Modifié par Geist.H, 04 avril 2013 - 09:49 .

[lightswitch]

Geist.H wrote...

A <8 speedrun is fairly easy to achieve on a small map with armored compartment and people with rank X URs/optimized builds.

Have you ever gotten a sub 8 time?

edit: ninja'ed...

yeah, going sub 8 isn't exactly 'easy' dude

Modifié par lightswitch, 04 avril 2013 - 08:58 .

[Caineghis2500]

LegionofRannoch wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Flaming Snake wrote...

No it doesn't, it's easy, and anyone can do it.

Is that why solo threads are spammed more than speed run threads???

solo threads are spammed more because anyone can solo, silver solo, gold solo, platinum solo. its all personal.

speedruns, if it isnt a record why bother posting.

Can a noob solo platinum??