****Does speed running take any skill at all?****
#51
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:22
#52
Guest_Paynez_*
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:23
Guest_Paynez_*
Modifié par Paynez, 04 avril 2013 - 09:27 .
#53
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:24
Paynez wrote...
Does around 6/11 near full waves count?caineghis2500 wrote...
Paynez wrote...
I haven't soloed a full game plat on glacier but I have soloed heaps of waves on it in a PUG match. It's actually fairly easy to kite enemies. But hazard glacier is hard as feck to kite around with the bees on a squishy charactercaineghis2500 wrote...
LegionofRannoch wrote...
i soloed platinumcaineghis2500 wrote...
LegionofRannoch wrote...
solo threads are spammed more because anyone can solo, silver solo, gold solo, platinum solo. its all personal.caineghis2500 wrote...
Flaming Snake wrote...
No it doesn't, it's easy, and anyone can do it.
Is that why solo threads are spammed more than speed run threads???
speedruns, if it isnt a record why bother posting.
Can a noob solo platinum??
Try it on jade, goddess, or by the heavens GLACIER. Thats where is matters now
Sorry bra but soloing a partial wave here and there on glacier platinum is nothing. Glacier isnt about kiting as there's very little room for it. If you actually do attempt a plat solo on glacier you will realize how many times yer gonna have to kill quickly and with skill to reach the other side.
Your comment was a bit ignorant but Ill let it pass
And a full wave 6 and 1/2 of wave 10?
Not even close. Redjohn will agree on that.
A full plat solo on glacier is where the true test is. It made me grow hair on my chest;)
#54
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:25
cowwy wrote...
Way to choose the worst possible video I'm in.
I don't recall the times we got so I'm gonna go with Geist's word and say it was 8:10 or 8:20. That was when we were first trying out our new strategy and we discovered it works pretty damn well. We definitely had issues in that session though that cost us some potential sub 8 runs because of splits and things like that.
That being said I am an honorary member of the sub 8 club with a 7:54 time.
lol sorry about that. Wish I could get a sub 8 though. Best I've ever gotten was an 8:49
I wonder how many times sub 8 runs have even been accomplished. The run that broke the 8:?? record only happened maybe 5-6 week ago right? I bet the 8 minute barrier has only ever broken maybe a couple dozen times, if even that.
#55
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:27
HolyAvenger wrote...
Nothing in this game takes skill, all players arescrubs.incompetent until proven worthy. you will never be master level.
Modifié par LegionofRannoch, 04 avril 2013 - 09:27 .
#56
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:29
Paynez wrote...
Not trying to be an ass or anything but when you attempted to solo live on glacier didn't you fail every time?caineghis2500 wrote...
Slimjim0725 wrote...
A solo isn't all that hard either TBH, all it takes is patience to kite enemies. Formulating and improving strategies for speedruns take skill and a team only goes as far as its weakest link. If you have someone with a small amount of missiles, low level weapons, etc. they aren't going to be able to be much help in a speedrun. That same player could go into Platinum and solo it assuming they know the spawns and have the patience to kite.
I don't think Armored Compartments speedruns take a ton of skill (until you are going for record times), but no missile speedruns or even non Armored Compartments speedruns do (since you have to adjust on the fly and can't rely on missiles as much).
Try kiting on glacier on plat solo. You'll see how much skills you really have
I know you can solo glacier but how many attempts did that take you? 5, 10, 20?
Those who solo platinum knows that it takes a few tries. That stream was behind the scences. I did a live stream with my valkyrie on glacier on my first attempt. I think you missed that one.
#57
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:29
So easy. Even a caveman can do it.
#58
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:30
I don't recall the times we got so I'm gonna go with Geist's word and say it was 8:10 or 8:20. That was when we were first trying out our new strategy and we discovered it works pretty damn well. We definitely had issues in that session though that cost us some potential sub 8 runs because of splits and things like that.
And what I found interesting when playing this game with cowwy, was to analyze the setup the team used and why they did so, the thought process behind it.
The execution however was not THAT hard at all and even a speedrunning "rookie" like me could follow, duplicate and contribute.
I hope now that people will get my point.
#59
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:31
lightswitch wrote...
cowwy wrote...
Way to choose the worst possible video I'm in.
I don't recall the times we got so I'm gonna go with Geist's word and say it was 8:10 or 8:20. That was when we were first trying out our new strategy and we discovered it works pretty damn well. We definitely had issues in that session though that cost us some potential sub 8 runs because of splits and things like that.
That being said I am an honorary member of the sub 8 club with a 7:54 time.
lol sorry about that. Wish I could get a sub 8 though. Best I've ever gotten was an 8:49
I wonder how many times sub 8 runs have even been accomplished. The run that broke the 8:?? record only happened maybe 5-6 week ago right? I bet the 8 minute barrier has only ever broken maybe a couple dozen times, if even that.
AFAIK only twice on PC have a sub 8 been done, was really close today on goddess, but was trolled on wave 1 4 and 9 lolz and wave 3 objective was meh that would have been sub 8
#60
Guest_Paynez_*
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:31
Guest_Paynez_*
You quoted me before I edited my post. I wasn't fast enough lolcaineghis2500 wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Not trying to be an ass or anything but when you attempted to solo live on glacier didn't you fail every time?caineghis2500 wrote...
Slimjim0725 wrote...
A solo isn't all that hard either TBH, all it takes is patience to kite enemies. Formulating and improving strategies for speedruns take skill and a team only goes as far as its weakest link. If you have someone with a small amount of missiles, low level weapons, etc. they aren't going to be able to be much help in a speedrun. That same player could go into Platinum and solo it assuming they know the spawns and have the patience to kite.
I don't think Armored Compartments speedruns take a ton of skill (until you are going for record times), but no missile speedruns or even non Armored Compartments speedruns do (since you have to adjust on the fly and can't rely on missiles as much).
Try kiting on glacier on plat solo. You'll see how much skills you really have
I know you can solo glacier but how many attempts did that take you? 5, 10, 20?
Those who solo platinum knows that it takes a few tries. That stream was behind the scences. I did a live stream with my valkyrie on glacier on my first attempt. I think you missed that one.
Paynez wrote...
Meh I look like an idiot and I'm just going stop talking about plat solos because I haven't attempted one yet.
I was acting like a dick
I'm sorry. No hard feelings?
Modifié par Paynez, 04 avril 2013 - 09:31 .
#61
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:31
#62
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:33
Geist.H wrote...
I don't recall the times we got so I'm gonna go with Geist's word and say it was 8:10 or 8:20. That was when we were first trying out our new strategy and we discovered it works pretty damn well. We definitely had issues in that session though that cost us some potential sub 8 runs because of splits and things like that.
And what I found interesting when playing this game with cowwy, was to analyze the setup the team used and why they did so, the thought process behind it.
The execution however was not THAT hard at all and even a speedrunning "rookie" like me could follow, duplicate and contribute.
I hope now that people will get my point.
as a speedrunner, i can tell you that your original comment on sub 8 is easy to get is false.
~neju neju
Modifié par Cricketer15, 04 avril 2013 - 09:33 .
#63
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:33
GallowsPole wrote...
Takes about as much skill as pulling up your zipper, shaking twice when done peeing (males, although I guess females can too), drawing an uberleet map of spawn points, and reload cancelling.
So easy. Even a caveman can do it.
In which direction do I shake it?
I mean if I do it sideways a few drops could hit the wall, but if shake up/downwards my pants might get messy.
#64
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:34
lightswitch wrote...
lol sorry about that. Wish I could get a sub 8 though. Best I've ever gotten was an 8:49
I wonder how many times sub 8 runs have even been accomplished. The run that broke the 8:?? record only happened maybe 5-6 week ago right? I bet the 8 minute barrier has only ever broken maybe a couple dozen times, if even that.
I can only speedrun for so long because after a while the bs and RNG starts getting on my nerves. I usually last about an hour and a half to two hours max. I understand why some people don't find it fun, especially because you waste a lot of good consumables that could be better spent PuGging.
Also ITT: speedruns take no skill, but soloing is where all the skill is at. Just get a Kroguard and a lolreegar and you already have more skill then most people.
#65
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:34
#66
Guest_Paynez_*
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:35
Guest_Paynez_*
I said nothingcowwy wrote...
lightswitch wrote...
lol sorry about that. Wish I could get a sub 8 though. Best I've ever gotten was an 8:49
I wonder how many times sub 8 runs have even been accomplished. The run that broke the 8:?? record only happened maybe 5-6 week ago right? I bet the 8 minute barrier has only ever broken maybe a couple dozen times, if even that.
I can only speedrun for so long because after a while the bs and RNG starts getting on my nerves. I usually last about an hour and a half to two hours max. I understand why some people don't find it fun, especially because you waste a lot of good consumables that could be better spent PuGging.
Also ITT: speedruns take no skill, but soloing is where all the skill is at. Just get a Kroguard and a lolreegar and you already have more skill then most people.
Neju neju
Modifié par Paynez, 04 avril 2013 - 09:36 .
#67
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:35
HolyAvenger wrote...
Nothing in this game takes skill, all players are scrubs.
Or cheaters.
#68
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:39
LegionofRannoch wrote...
HolyAvenger wrote...
Nothing in this game takes skill, all players arescrubs.incompetent until proven worthy. you will never be master level.
Ain't no such thing, lady.
Its all scrubbery of one shade or another.
#69
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:39
That being said I believe speedrunning has becoming much easier. You no longer need to piece together a good strategy for two different waves (Spam Waves and Rocket Waves) because everyone has enough missiles to not give a ****. You also don't need to force secondary spawns anymore because everyone has enough missiles to not give a ****. It still takes skill to get a good 7-10 minute strategy (depending on map) but BioWare has made speedrunning so much more about objective grinding now more then anything.
#70
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:43
Paynez wrote...
You quoted me before I edited my post. I wasn't fast enough lolcaineghis2500 wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Not trying to be an ass or anything but when you attempted to solo live on glacier didn't you fail every time?caineghis2500 wrote...
Slimjim0725 wrote...
A solo isn't all that hard either TBH, all it takes is patience to kite enemies. Formulating and improving strategies for speedruns take skill and a team only goes as far as its weakest link. If you have someone with a small amount of missiles, low level weapons, etc. they aren't going to be able to be much help in a speedrun. That same player could go into Platinum and solo it assuming they know the spawns and have the patience to kite.
I don't think Armored Compartments speedruns take a ton of skill (until you are going for record times), but no missile speedruns or even non Armored Compartments speedruns do (since you have to adjust on the fly and can't rely on missiles as much).
Try kiting on glacier on plat solo. You'll see how much skills you really have
I know you can solo glacier but how many attempts did that take you? 5, 10, 20?
Those who solo platinum knows that it takes a few tries. That stream was behind the scences. I did a live stream with my valkyrie on glacier on my first attempt. I think you missed that one.Paynez wrote...
Meh I look like an idiot and I'm just going stop talking about plat solos because I haven't attempted one yet.
I was acting like a dick
I'm sorry. No hard feelings?
Non taken.
#71
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:45
XPERIA_Z wrote...
@OP: Yeah. It does man, and it requires a better communication... no mic = seppuku. and oh.. good dancing skill you got there btw.:D:D
LMAO!! You are awesome girl;)
#72
Guest_Paynez_*
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:46
Guest_Paynez_*
I realised I was arguing about something I had no clue about and I was completely wrong, so I did the manly thing and apologised. More people really need to learn how to do that.caineghis2500 wrote...
Paynez wrote...
You quoted me before I edited my post. I wasn't fast enough lolcaineghis2500 wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Not trying to be an ass or anything but when you attempted to solo live on glacier didn't you fail every time?caineghis2500 wrote...
Slimjim0725 wrote...
A solo isn't all that hard either TBH, all it takes is patience to kite enemies. Formulating and improving strategies for speedruns take skill and a team only goes as far as its weakest link. If you have someone with a small amount of missiles, low level weapons, etc. they aren't going to be able to be much help in a speedrun. That same player could go into Platinum and solo it assuming they know the spawns and have the patience to kite.
I don't think Armored Compartments speedruns take a ton of skill (until you are going for record times), but no missile speedruns or even non Armored Compartments speedruns do (since you have to adjust on the fly and can't rely on missiles as much).
Try kiting on glacier on plat solo. You'll see how much skills you really have
I know you can solo glacier but how many attempts did that take you? 5, 10, 20?
Those who solo platinum knows that it takes a few tries. That stream was behind the scences. I did a live stream with my valkyrie on glacier on my first attempt. I think you missed that one.Paynez wrote...
Meh I look like an idiot and I'm just going stop talking about plat solos because I haven't attempted one yet.
I was acting like a dick
I'm sorry. No hard feelings?
Non taken.
#73
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:46
caineghis2500 wrote...
Slimjim0725 wrote...
A solo isn't all that hard either TBH, all it takes is patience to kite enemies. Formulating and improving strategies for speedruns take skill and a team only goes as far as its weakest link. If you have someone with a small amount of missiles, low level weapons, etc. they aren't going to be able to be much help in a speedrun. That same player could go into Platinum and solo it assuming they know the spawns and have the patience to kite.
I don't think Armored Compartments speedruns take a ton of skill (until you are going for record times), but no missile speedruns or even non Armored Compartments speedruns do (since you have to adjust on the fly and can't rely on missiles as much).
Try kiting on glacier on plat solo. You'll see how much skills you really have
Where did I say I had skill there? Sorry, but I don't have the patience to solo (I did enough for my banner back when challenges came out and it bored the heck out of me). When I play a co-op game, I am doing that to play with others.
Anyways, I know you have always disliked speedruns and that is fine by me. I personally dislike a solo and of the ones that I have done it really wasn't all that hard either. You telling me to solo Glacier is like me telling you to get a sub 11 minute Rio Platinum game. Can either of us do it? Probably. My guess is that neither of us have interest in doing what the other would enjoy, the difference is that I am not going to make a thread on BSN asking if doing a solo takes any skill.
#74
Guest_Paynez_*
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:46
Guest_Paynez_*
He's a guycaineghis2500 wrote...
XPERIA_Z wrote...
@OP: Yeah. It does man, and it requires a better communication... no mic = seppuku. and oh.. good dancing skill you got there btw.:D:D
LMAO!! You are awesome girl;)
/awkies
#75
Guest_Flaming Snake_*
Posté 04 avril 2013 - 09:48
Guest_Flaming Snake_*
Thread needs more quotes......Paynez wrote...
I realised I was arguing about something I had no clue about and I was completely wrong, so I did the manly thing and apologised. More people really need to learn how to do that.caineghis2500 wrote...
Paynez wrote...
You quoted me before I edited my post. I wasn't fast enough lolcaineghis2500 wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Not trying to be an ass or anything but when you attempted to solo live on glacier didn't you fail every time?caineghis2500 wrote...
Slimjim0725 wrote...
A solo isn't all that hard either TBH, all it takes is patience to kite enemies. Formulating and improving strategies for speedruns take skill and a team only goes as far as its weakest link. If you have someone with a small amount of missiles, low level weapons, etc. they aren't going to be able to be much help in a speedrun. That same player could go into Platinum and solo it assuming they know the spawns and have the patience to kite.
I don't think Armored Compartments speedruns take a ton of skill (until you are going for record times), but no missile speedruns or even non Armored Compartments speedruns do (since you have to adjust on the fly and can't rely on missiles as much).
Try kiting on glacier on plat solo. You'll see how much skills you really have
I know you can solo glacier but how many attempts did that take you? 5, 10, 20?
Those who solo platinum knows that it takes a few tries. That stream was behind the scences. I did a live stream with my valkyrie on glacier on my first attempt. I think you missed that one.Paynez wrote...
Meh I look like an idiot and I'm just going stop talking about plat solos because I haven't attempted one yet.
I was acting like a dick
I'm sorry. No hard feelings?
Non taken.
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